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02-27-12, 12:50 AM

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GrimiReaper said:
At least there was some good fan service. It's not often you get to see a female version of the Stay Puff Marshmellow man from Ghostbusters.

This made me so ROFL! I still can't stop. Too funny.

On that note I will mention something of that part.

Unlike many people think in the manga part in the spoiler
11th is actually very very gentleman. He has a hidden side to him. THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF
they removed it. Cause it's the only part where they show 11th is not as asshole he appears. Curse you staff, you had to include some stuff that could have been done in the BDs.

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02-27-12, 12:50 AM

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another great episode - this one had more plot twists than you could keep track of - this show is one of the very few anime i can think of that manages to surprise on an almost weekly basis - truly great! loved the fact this was an almost all minene episode - can't get enough of her!!!
 
02-27-12, 12:57 AM

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So many delicious scenes with Minene, I'm really satisfied with the episode. Not to mention we have finally arrived to the upgraded Yukiteru. 5/5, probably my favorite Mirai Nikki episode so far.
 
02-27-12, 1:13 AM

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Damn violence censors are worse than ecchi censors. i wish i wouldv known itd be so heavily censored before i got hooked so i couldv just waited for blu ray.

other than that it was a good episode.
 
02-27-12, 1:31 AM

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Good episode! I wonder what Murmur's real purpose is...
Its really sad that there is no Mirai Nikki next week :(
 
02-27-12, 2:36 AM

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Its really sad that there is no Mirai Nikki next week :(
Did I miss something? Why would it not air next week?
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Damn violence censors are worse than ecchi censors. i wish i wouldv known itd be so heavily censored before i got hooked so i couldv just waited for blu ray.
It's cause the TV cannot show details like that. Boards of censorship. I was going to give the manga version, guess I will do it now in the spoiler (NSFW)
and that is the reason they censored it.

Another example of details in regards to it is from Blood-C BDs (NSFW):
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/picture16/7b31f259.gif
stuff like that forget it! It's too detailed for public TV.

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02-27-12, 2:44 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Fuzzx said:
Damn violence censors are worse than ecchi censors. i wish i wouldv known itd be so heavily censored before i got hooked so i couldv just waited for blu ray.
It's cause the TV cannot show details like that. Boards of censorship. I was going to give the manga version, guess I will do it now in the spoiler (NSFW)


lol yea i understand the reason for censorship. also its not always just because of TV regulations but its an excellent marketing tactic giving more incentive to buy the BD's. just saying it really sucks :(
 
02-27-12, 3:01 AM

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Fuzzx said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Fuzzx said:
Damn violence censors are worse than ecchi censors. i wish i wouldv known itd be so heavily censored before i got hooked so i couldv just waited for blu ray.
It's cause the TV cannot show details like that. Boards of censorship. I was going to give the manga version, guess I will do it now in the spoiler (NSFW)


Another example of details in regards to it is from Blood-C BDs (NSFW):
http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/picture16/7b31f259.gif
stuff like that forget it! It's too detailed for public TV.


lol yea i understand the reason for censorship. also its not always just because of TV regulations but its an excellent marketing tactic giving more incentive to buy the BD's. just saying it really sucks :(


I agree for I also saw the gore changes in the BDs so far of this series. It's more explicit indeed in the "Sacred Eye" arc. I shall leave it at that.

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02-27-12, 3:10 AM

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This show is all around. I dunno what to think of it anymore.

I still kinda like it, but hell, is it confusing with all of its apprentices and diaries and stuff. Guess I'll read the manga after the show ends to connect few things that happened.
 
02-27-12, 4:27 AM

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Was planning to collect bds anyway, so i don't care much about censorship. :D

I'm wondering what Deus do to Minene, but i guess we will know soon in th next episode. :D
 
02-27-12, 4:42 AM

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That went pretty fast. Nishijima was such a boss.
 
02-27-12, 6:13 AM

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it was like i was seeing Miroku all over again. <33333
good episode!
 
02-27-12, 6:22 AM

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look like now indeed this is turning to what best way to say yea all or nothing now.

mayor 11th going to shoot yet yuki save “yuno” why yuno is yuno so yea yuki still want yuno.
few days later 9th get info from Nishijima on mayor 11th.
reveal mayor 11th want make city full of diary owners with 8th server (cue brain bleach for 8th service) but spread on super comp.
9th try to make go boom but denied on run yet rescue by Nishijima.
who want 9th to get married, sword the cake, & a baby yea 9th reaction total pink shock.
9th try to blow place again but capture with flashback with her bread.
once again Nishijima to rescue kaboom server.
but part of it got in yea now people got dairy owner.
mur mur & deus watching looking at it goes give deus know mur mur is up to something.
9th & Nishijima got help from aru by sending in those 3 with own jobber batch of dairy.
yet notice two more super comp (at least it not Venjix) so wonder to do.
9th let her mr & mrs. squirrel go to safety give misses already “on the way” & Nishijima still want 9th.
next day after scope 9th figure out mayor 11th dairy.
9th meet deus give quick gut buster for 9th.
then reveal deus & 11th we’re also mix before give include making of all the dairy.
so 9th idea spread random blah to distract 11th.
it work but 11th had another back-up plan.
during with 9th lose a hand, those 3 got caught, & Nishijima too give he shield himself for 9th.
yet just who came in yuki & yuno during yuno go crazy gun shots.
& yea another plan let go used 11th people as plan.

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02-27-12, 6:23 AM

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great
 
02-27-12, 6:26 AM

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Wow, that was fast but good!!!
So, the Future Diaries were an idea from 11th???I didn't expect that...

Also, MineneXNishijima scene FTW..That made me lol so hard

Oh, Yukki you're still a badass and nooo Nishijima is dead :(
 
02-27-12, 6:37 AM

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Where's Akise? I'm pretty interested in how strong his future diary is.

Other than that, it's good to see that the series is going back to its' usual awesomeness after so many cringeworthy episodes. For me at least.
 
02-27-12, 7:38 AM

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It needed more Yuno... Well I like Minene too :3

Good episode 4/5

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02-27-12, 7:47 AM

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i enjoyed this episode a whole lot, poor Nishijima, it makes me sad seeing him dead, and Minene has lost another body part...
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02-27-12, 8:46 AM

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Six episodes left so we can expect it to finished as everybody would want it. Everything will be explained, let's hope for it ; D.

Anyway, new Yuki is so fucking amazing. From the start I never expected things to turn this way. This anime keeps shocking me like Guilty Crown.
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02-27-12, 10:33 AM

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This makes no fucking sense at all. Marriage proposal while attempting to escape from enemy grounds for no fucking reason?
Nishijima said earlier in the episode he will no longer cooperate, but suddenly he does it again?
Yuki just killed Nishi but Minene is like "oh i dont care just go along with it" despite almost going crazy when he was shot?
Not to mention Yuki's sudden change for absolutely no reason but the killing of his **** father who just killed his mother?
This is fucking ridiculous
 
02-27-12, 11:09 AM

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This makes no fucking sense at all. Marriage proposal while attempting to escape from enemy grounds for no fucking reason?
Nishijima said earlier in the episode he will no longer cooperate, but suddenly he does it again?
Yuki just killed Nishi but Minene is like "oh i dont care just go along with it" despite almost going crazy when he was shot?
Not to mention Yuki's sudden change for absolutely no reason but the killing of his **** father who just killed his mother?
This is fucking ridiculous


How the hell did you get that Yuki killed Nishijima? It's incredibly obvious the bad guys shot him, but then Yuki managed to shoot them down after Nishi got five bullets rammed into him. What, did the rapid shots fool you or something? Oh, and if you think Minene is okay with Yuki not being able to save Nishi,


We haven't even seen her reaction to Yuki saying that it was okay beyond that angry face of hers. How the hell did you get that she was okay with it?
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02-27-12, 11:14 AM

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Yukiteru REALLY made a 180 here ... wish the anime had shown more peeks into this brutal brilliance of First during the first half of the series, which was pretty much Yuno kicking ass and him running away (understandably enough, he is a nonathletic 14-year-old). The weirdest part of it is, while this is Yuki after he's 'snapped', he just seems like a confident badass instead of somewhat who's quite mentally disturbed by now. Granted, 'insane' doesn't mean necessarily mean 'bulging eyes and drooling grin' ...

The cop suddenly falling in love with our beautiful terrorist, Ninth, was amusing and did kinda come out of nowhere ... almost could've guaranteed he'd end up dead by the end of the episode because of it. Ninth was frankly adorable in her reactions ... such a tsundere :P Even with the episode kindly reminding us this is a woman who BLEW UP A MIDDLE SCHOOL just to TRY to kill two other diary owners, she's just too damn crazy awesome.

I was pretty WTF with her getting impaled by Deus ... especially since they apparently both went on about their conversation like it never even happened. Which apparently it didn't. Or maybe Deus planted some seed of himself inside of her? There was plenty of symbolism along that regard. Maybe he'll possess Ninth at the end.

Only a few episodes left ... I wonder if they'll use the manga's ending or make up a new one? Whatever happens, I hope we find out what the hell's up with Yuno's corpse and why Yukki is still sure she's the real one.
 
02-27-12, 11:18 AM

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Yukiteru REALLY made a 180 here ... wish the anime had shown more peeks into this brutal brilliance of First during the first half of the series, which was pretty much Yuno kicking ass and him running away (understandably enough, he is a nonathletic 14-year-old).


Yeah, because it's not like he used his darts to take out several of the diary holders before he changed. Or that he braved a cult to rescue Yuno. Or that he shorted out the power to prevent Yuno from getting electrocuted with that kid. Or when he ran to save those three kids from the dogs. And all while keeping his wimpy nature intact. Yeah, I can see that as running away and/or inconsistent characterization.
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02-27-12, 11:59 AM

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Pretty cool considering how stupid this is, they justify lack of sense with awesomeness pretty well. Too bad the anime hasn't given me any reason to care about what happens to Mirene or Nishijima at all. This could have been much better.
 
02-27-12, 12:04 PM

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Nishijima is so weird lol xD

And i kinda dont feel sad about deaths cuz i hope Yukiteru(and he is full fledged badass last 3 eps xD) will become God and fullfill his wishes he wanted "revive all innocent and help out others" if he will be that god then il be happy with anime end
 
02-27-12, 12:24 PM

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Minene lost her hand.
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No! I love her.
 
02-27-12, 12:51 PM

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02-27-12, 12:53 PM

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I had a bad feeling about Nishijima dying this whole episode.

Minene needs to go psycho crazy next episode and fuck some shit up. I'm actually upset about Nishijima..I actually really liked him. What a sick way for him to go..man...
 
02-27-12, 1:00 PM

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Yukki + Yuno + Machine Guns + Samurai Swords = I just Came

Also. I LOVE Yuno's dress.
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02-27-12, 1:45 PM

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The narration and direction were even more atrocious than usual, and the fact that the animation was shit didn't exactly help. How good could this anime have become if it had been produced by a decent studio.

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02-27-12, 1:51 PM

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OMG no! Nishijima!!!!!! Minene was so CUTE during this episode, geez she is one hot stuff.

11's Diary had me a bit confused, and i'm still a tad confused.. Although I do think the name of his diary should be taken litterally.

But omg, no, Minene and Nishijima!!!#!@#!@#$!#$%!@%!@#%!% !@# ):
 
02-27-12, 2:08 PM

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I'm so excited to see how it all ends. This is the best anime since Death Note in my opinion. I wish manga and anime companies would back more amazing stuff like this instead of the same old slice of life garbage they usually produce.
 
02-27-12, 2:29 PM

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God, why did I read the manga last week. Now this week's episode is not exciting. Sigh, now I know why people hate spolers.
 
02-27-12, 2:34 PM

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...And another one good character was killed. Sad but true:(
 
02-27-12, 2:44 PM

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Pregnant chipmunk + Minene = KAWAII-DESU.

 
02-27-12, 2:55 PM

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The marriage part was kinda funny.
 
02-27-12, 3:07 PM

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Oh no T^T! After seeing what Minene visual of a wedding w/ Masumi, I was anticipating for her to agree and now... HE IS DEAD (;Д;)!!
And now she has no hand!
Well at least I got to see Yuno's crazy infatuation face that I love XD
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02-27-12, 3:23 PM

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At the end of the episode, it shows “来週はおやすみせて頂きます。”. Does it mean we have to wait for another week for the next episode? o_O!?

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02-27-12, 3:28 PM

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Meh, not a bad episode. Although it did feel very rushed, and nishijima's death didn't really feel like it had that much of an impact. Like they just kind of walked away and that was that. Either way, the baby popping out of the cake was entertaining.
 
02-27-12, 5:54 PM

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Will be pissed if this ends in some world reset bullshitt

Dont remember the manga all that well but I remember


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02-27-12, 7:23 PM

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Too bad the anime hasn't given me any reason to care about what happens to Mirene or Nishijima at all. This could have been much better.

Exactly. This anime is good at making people not care about the characters (barring whatever happens in the manga, which I wouldn't know about, nor should it matter).

Still, this was OK. It's been at the point where I don't expect much or care much, and just hope that the ending wraps up nicely.
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02-27-12, 7:48 PM

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6 more episodes. Cross my fingers and my toes, please have a good ending. Just like the manga its great so far but......
 
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This episode was fucking retarded. It's hilarious how many people here aren't even noticing major directing FAILURE:

  • Yuki was just trolling and pretending to reject Yuno even though it accomplished nothing but stress her out? LOL k.
  • 11th shoots once, misses, so apparently "LOL GUESS I CAN'T SHOOT AGAIN!"
  • Yuki and Yuno magically get away or...? What the fuck happened?
  • 9th trips a claymore and is completely open to the blast. Only loses her hand, severed perfectly at the wrist.
  • Nishijima gets shot once. No more bullets come from anywhere.
  • Yuno and Yuki magically acquire SMGs. In Japan.
  • Yuno's shots hitting all over the floor and not the guards, yet they're somehow getting hit--all while just standing there scared and not even trying to shoot back.
  • The two other super computers have to be destroyed at the same time? WTF WHY?

Just what I could remember off the top of my head. I literally couldn't laugh at all, either. I just facepalmed the entire episode long.

By the way, why the fuck is 8th's head so fucking huge?
 
02-27-12, 9:00 PM

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Didn't feel that well done. I wonder how much more they're gonna speed through things.
 
02-27-12, 9:50 PM

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This episode was fucking retarded. It's hilarious how many people here aren't even noticing major directing FAILURE:

  • Yuki was just trolling and pretending to reject Yuno even though it accomplished nothing but stress her out? LOL k.
  • 11th shoots once, misses, so apparently "LOL GUESS I CAN'T SHOOT AGAIN!"
  • Yuki and Yuno magically get away or...? What the fuck happened?
  • 9th trips a claymore and is completely open to the blast. Only loses her hand, severed perfectly at the wrist.
  • Nishijima gets shot once. No more bullets come from anywhere.
  • Yuno and Yuki magically acquire SMGs. In Japan.
  • Yuno's shots hitting all over the floor and not the guards, yet they're somehow getting hit--all while just standing there scared and not even trying to shoot back.
  • The two other super computers have to be destroyed at the same time? WTF WHY?

Just what I could remember off the top of my head. I literally couldn't laugh at all, either. I just facepalmed the entire episode long.

By the way, why the fuck is 8th's head so fucking huge?


hahaha yeah so many facepalms. im just loving how yuki is suddenly bad-ass and yuno is just batshit crazy
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02-27-12, 11:15 PM

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DraconisMarch said:
This episode was fucking retarded. It's hilarious how many people here aren't even noticing major directing FAILURE:

  • Yuki was just trolling and pretending to reject Yuno even though it accomplished nothing but stress her out? LOL k.
  • 11th shoots once, misses, so apparently "LOL GUESS I CAN'T SHOOT AGAIN!"
  • Yuki and Yuno magically get away or...? What the fuck happened?
  • 9th trips a claymore and is completely open to the blast. Only loses her hand, severed perfectly at the wrist.
  • Nishijima gets shot once. No more bullets come from anywhere.
  • Yuno and Yuki magically acquire SMGs. In Japan.
  • Yuno's shots hitting all over the floor and not the guards, yet they're somehow getting hit--all while just standing there scared and not even trying to shoot back.
  • The two other super computers have to be destroyed at the same time? WTF WHY?

Just what I could remember off the top of my head. I literally couldn't laugh at all, either. I just facepalmed the entire episode long.

By the way, why the fuck is 8th's head so fucking huge?


I don't consider them directing fails, because Future Diary is an anime that just runs on cheese. It's not exactly high art. It's a B-movie put in anime form and given a non-existent budget. Who the hell really cares why 8th looks like that when you have a costumed freak as the 12th diary holder and a kid who can put a gas mask on from out of nowhere?

To address some of your points though, Yuki had to let Yuno go to push her down, out of the way of the bullet. You do realize they were on there knees in the beginning when they were standing in the cliffhanger last episode, right?

And no, 11th can't shoot again. The first shot was meant as a surprise attack that no one was watching and he could technically claim self-defense if people knew it was him who fired (and quite frankly, I don't know how he could hide it). After that shot though, Akise and Nishijima have their eyes on him, and being the mayor, he can't ruin his public image in front of a cop and a detective closely associated with the police. He'd have to kill them to hide it, but that would mean driving his own car, plus that's messier than just letting Yuki and Yuno go (the manga showed them running away on foot, so yeah, it was directing fail on the anime's part). And there's no way a second shot can count as self-defense in any possible way.
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I don't consider them directing fails, because Future Diary is an anime that just runs on cheese. It's not exactly high art. It's a B-movie put in anime form and given a non-existent budget. Who the hell really cares why 8th looks like that when you have a costumed freak as the 12th diary holder and a kid who can put a gas mask on from out of nowhere?

To address some of your points though, Yuki had to let Yuno go to push her down, out of the way of the bullet. You do realize they were on there knees in the beginning when they were standing in the cliffhanger last episode, right?

And no, 11th can't shoot again. The first shot was meant as a surprise attack that no one was watching and he could technically claim self-defense if people knew it was him who fired (and quite frankly, I don't know how he could hide it). After that shot though, Akise and Nishijima have their eyes on him, and being the mayor, he can't ruin his public image in front of a cop and a detective closely associated with the police. He'd have to kill them to hide it, but that would mean driving his own car, plus that's messier than just letting Yuki and Yuno go (the manga showed them running away on foot, so yeah, it was directing fail on the anime's part). And there's no way a second shot can count as self-defense in any possible way.
You only even tried to touch the first 3, and you didn't even directly refute them--just made up something about it not being self defense if you fire more than one shot. Even if that were true, there's no way it'd even matter in his position.

And you don't need to let her go to pull her down out of the line of fire. Have NO idea what you're on about there.
 
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DraconisMarch said:
This episode was fucking retarded. It's hilarious how many people here aren't even noticing major directing FAILURE:

  • Yuki was just trolling and pretending to reject Yuno even though it accomplished nothing but stress her out? LOL k.
  • 11th shoots once, misses, so apparently "LOL GUESS I CAN'T SHOOT AGAIN!"
  • Yuki and Yuno magically get away or...? What the fuck happened?
  • 9th trips a claymore and is completely open to the blast. Only loses her hand, severed perfectly at the wrist.
  • Nishijima gets shot once. No more bullets come from anywhere.
  • Yuno and Yuki magically acquire SMGs. In Japan.
  • Yuno's shots hitting all over the floor and not the guards, yet they're somehow getting hit--all while just standing there scared and not even trying to shoot back.
  • The two other super computers have to be destroyed at the same time? WTF WHY?

Just what I could remember off the top of my head. I literally couldn't laugh at all, either. I just facepalmed the entire episode long.

By the way, why the fuck is 8th's head so fucking huge?


And you forgot to mention 9th and nishijima's teleport to the hill, after 11th threw back the grenade at 9th.

I really hate that anime... I only continue 'cause there are only 6 episodes left.
 
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I can't believe how some people actually regarded this episode as one of the BEST episodes so far. To me, there are a lot of pretty glaring errors, not only in terms of animation, but also the script and the directing itself. Plus, the way they did the transition from the more action-packed scenes to the comedies then the sad parts was done pretty bad. Although as a manga reader, I did expect certain scenes to happen, but I still facepalmed so hard when I was watching this episode. Guess that's what happens when you merge 5 chapters together.
 
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DraconisMarch said:
This episode was fucking retarded. It's hilarious how many people here aren't even noticing major directing FAILURE:

  • Yuki was just trolling and pretending to reject Yuno even though it accomplished nothing but stress her out? LOL k.
  • 11th shoots once, misses, so apparently "LOL GUESS I CAN'T SHOOT AGAIN!"
  • Yuki and Yuno magically get away or...? What the fuck happened?
  • 9th trips a claymore and is completely open to the blast. Only loses her hand, severed perfectly at the wrist.
  • Nishijima gets shot once. No more bullets come from anywhere.
  • Yuno and Yuki magically acquire SMGs. In Japan.
  • Yuno's shots hitting all over the floor and not the guards, yet they're somehow getting hit--all while just standing there scared and not even trying to shoot back.
  • The two other super computers have to be destroyed at the same time? WTF WHY?

Just what I could remember off the top of my head. I literally couldn't laugh at all, either. I just facepalmed the entire episode long.


Couldn't have put it better then myself. This episode has even gone past the stage of being so bad it becomes funny (like Gundam Seed) to just hitting rock bottom and starting to dig.
 
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