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View Poll Results: Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku Episode 1 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
63 55.75%
4 out of 5: Liked it
33 29.20%
3 out of 5: It was OK
12 10.62%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
4 3.54%
1 out of 5: Hated it
1 0.88%
Voters: 113

03-23-12, 4:02 PM

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 711
Sleep-inducing.It's standard anime conventions from start to finish. Predictable, bland and without any passion. Not even the uneventful but enjoyable type of slice of life because there's not a single fresh idea. I get the impression the creators were forced to do this.
03-27-12, 11:11 PM

Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 1934
fuckkk they shoulda been together
03-30-12, 8:29 PM

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 168
Eh, I liked the light novel much better than the movie adaptation. Some good parts of the story from the novel were changed, rushed, and even skipped. The story was also seemingly very boring and bland without the character development you were given from the novel.

Although I guess the aerial fight animation scenes were pretty cool.

Modified by SacredFactor, 03-30-12, 8:35 PM
04-04-12, 4:03 PM

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 3121
that was pretty good. I liked the main male lead, but the overall story...etc was kinda bland. I loved the music and character designs. 7/10

Yanoflies said:

I . . . will stop posting here anymore sorry.

thank god. u mad bro?
05-06-12, 9:20 PM

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 65
What the hell did I just watch?
I haven't read the novel but my comment about the movie is.
no story, no music, no characters.
05-31-12, 10:56 AM

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1522
I doubt I would throw away all the gold he and she worked hard for.
07-01-12, 10:29 AM

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 269
Liked it, but there was something missing about this movie.
Maybe the novel is better (?)
Well I hope that gon' have a good life.
But I doubt it for the pilot since he throw all the gold :P
08-05-12, 4:46 AM

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 351
In my opinion...

Produced by renowned Japanese animation studios Madhouse and TMS Entertainment, Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku [known to the non-Japanese viewer as “The Princess and the Pilot”] is deservedly situated within the small aggregation of anime with which I both solemnly and proudly affirm myself an adherent thereof. Disregarding outright the conspicuous errors effectuated by director Shishido Jun, screenplay writer Okudera Satoko, and lead-role voice actors Taketomi Seika and Kamiki Ryunosuke (certainties, to a degree, with which many of the film’s discontented viewers repeatedly refer to so as to “validate” their own adverse opinions), this movie, in a manner which involves the requirement of prodigious caliber, managed to exhibit certain, defining elements - elements pertaining to the attentive detailing stressed upon the creation of its visually appealing scenes, in the development of its lead characters, and, most importantly, in the execution of its plot.

Titles like this, despite their flaws, are what motivate me to watch anime. For me, Toaru Hikuushi e no Tsuioku is deserving of a 6 out of 10.
Modified by Rakutomi, 09-03-12, 12:02 PM

08-11-12, 9:40 PM

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 319
I'm not understanding the hate for Fana's VA, I thought she was fine.
09-11-12, 9:03 PM

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 70
I dont even know what to say! this story is rife with cliches and, wholly feels like they are prodding a fully milked-and dead cow with a stick trying to make it get up and get back to work.

the execution is sub par, as if they were playing a game of "pin the overused trope on the anime" or something like that. from the chance childhood meeting of the two kids, to the overly and overtly genki friends, to the "love that can never be", to the rapidly changing personality of the princess, to the sheer boringness of charles' character. all of it has been done before, and almost any other show out there has done it better. and while all of this may be bad, what really gets me is the whole idea of Charles as a "bestado", the lowest caste in the levamme empire.

The idea of the lower caste character has been done well before. just look at Suzaku from Code Geass. the creaters wove a real conflict between Suzaku's goals, and his status as a "lowly Eleven". interactions are done extremely well in that show, and this status defines him. in this anime however, the idea of the Bestado doesnt fit in well at all, and seems like the writers wanted to include an extra obstacle in Charles' path to love.

to start, the whole idea of the Bestado isnt really explained at all, and apparently all we need to know is that Charles is of the lowest class, a hated "sewer rat" who lies, cheats, and steals to make a living. But looking at him, or even looking at the story, you'd never expect it. this guy seems like a perfectly normal person, completely unaffected by all the things that happened to him in the past, no hatred for anyone, just brushes off taunts

the reason why this idea fails is because every time his class status is mentioned, there is always a character telling us why the world hates him. they never show his plight to anyone. we dont even know what the qualifications for bestado status are, or even why it is so bad. If the creators have ever written a college essay or even seen code geass, or some other similar anime with good execution, they would know that you are supposed to "show dont tell".

it is so poorly executed in the anime, in fact, that taking out this minor plot point would barely affect the direction of the story at all. this is supposed to serve as a sort of "class based love affair that can never happen", but it would be almost exactly the same if he were just a simple citizen/commoner, albeit without the unneeded bullying.

but by far the most Out-of-the-blue thing they do in this anime, and that really set me off, was that these supposedly "high class" people GIVE HIM THEIR PRINCESS, TO FLY ALONE, WITHOUT ESCORT, ACROSS DANGEROUS TERRITORY AND THROUGH ENEMY LINES!" i mean COME ON!!!! WHO THE DEVIL WAS MAKING THIS DECISION? am i missing something here? what kind of general trusts the "lowlife sewer rat" with their princess and expects him to deliver her to the kingdom without all help, in an inferior aircraft, and completely against all odds? DID IT AT ANYTIME CROSS THEIR MINDS THAT THE BESTADO MIGHT STEAL HER AWAY??? there was nothing stopping him! i mean, if he were just a neutral citizen/commoner, i would completely understand that he should do all in his power to deliver her, despite getting none of the credit, but COME ON! EVERYONE HATES HIM! he could just hightail it away somewhere else and start a life with her. thats what she wanted. and then he could have had a princess and no money, versus having no money and no princess and dying like a dirty dog. oh yea, which brings up ANOTHER CLICHE. the honorable and morally good anime character that just doesnt make the right decisions! none of it fits within the context of the show, and contributes next to nothing to the story. add in some dumb samurai pilot, a bunch of ships, and a cursory glance at some falling dudes in an attempt to humanize the enemy, and you have this anime, a steaming pile of poorly written jank.

overall, trying to stuff a bunch of romantic cliches into an already milked-dry and dead cow is not going to yield delicious milk, and this anime is the poster child for that fear. apparently someone thought that they could teach us a lesson that things are not like the movies, but in overusing tons of ideas from previous shows, they cause this one to just flop right on its face, effectively eliminating the hour and a half worth of enjoyment you may get from it.

on a positive note though, the art was pretty nice.

Overall: 6/10
09-12-12, 10:46 AM

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 91
Honestly it was that good i felt i had to post.

Personally i think she suited short hair, it was actually that imagine and the description of her that made me watch it and glad i did, very enjoyable. I'm also certain i have heard her voice in something before, not looked her up but i'll be suprised if it turns out i haven't.

Only gripe and after reading some posts and learning it had a novel i feel i cant complain as much about is that nothing happened between them. So much chemistry you were dying to see something happen and yet it never came, though his ending gesture was very well done. I did picture her jumping off the airship or falling like she did so many times before. Though this time leading to him catching her and escaping together or maybe eloping is better word choice :)

Though as i say since it came from a novel even if i haven't read it i don't like when they make big changes like that, so it's left just as wishful thinking. I do accept minor changes do happen and sometimes have to happen as somethings just don't work as well on screen as they do in a book.

I gave it a 9, would of been a 10 had they eloped :) i'm still running on the high of having watched something great and it's shows like this that make watching anime so enjoyable
10-05-12, 10:13 PM

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 49845
Just finished this movie tonight and hmm...

The princess Fana looks graceful but for some reason, I hate that Carlos or w/e his name in the red suit. He looks generic and boring. Pretty tragic opening there in the beginning though with that sudden attack.

I like the theme of aviation in the series before as I rarely watch anime involving airplanes as opposed to space crafts. Fana needs to stop falling to the damn sea so much though LOL, it's almost embarrassing to watch. I liked her and Charles' interactions though ^__^

Charles got some pretty epic aviation skills though when he guided and avoided the missiles.

Regarding Fana's hair..I liked that she decided to cut it when they arrived on that island. She just looks so much natural that way. The dance was pretty funny lol, they should of kissed :P

Anyways, this was a great movie and I enjoyed it quite a bit. 8/10

I wonder how much gold that was in the air
10-12-12, 4:37 PM

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 33
I didn't expected to enjoy it like that !! :D
Well, truth to be told, I would have slightly prefered if they ended together, but unexpectedly enough, I liked too this bitter sweet ending ! *-*
Guess it's Okey to have this kind of ending from time to time ^^
10/10 For me !
10-13-12, 11:30 AM
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Pretty good movie. Nice to see a aviation one once in a while. All Dat gold flying in the air OH MAN!
Also Fana falling into the sea way too many time. I was laughing my ass off everytime she did, and the action and aviation skills were nice to see.
11-16-12, 4:50 AM

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3438
The animation and the music were ok, not too good not too bad, mediocre if I may.
I think the voice acting was fit for the characters, surely it lacked emotion but we're talking about a girl who only speaks when allowed to and a guy treated like pariah since birth...
The movie was actually almost enjoyable( yay lets send the future queen over the ocean without any guard whatsoever, oh and did we mention that our best team died there? ) to a point, that damned island. The first thing you do when you get on a deserted island within enemy territory is cutting your hair(ok, fine she tended to his wounds first but still...) because "it was in the way" ... oh and later lets all cry about someones dead mother then get drunk and dance, yeah, romance at it's best.
The ending was stupid, she married a fancy prince and became a boring queen and he gave up his newly-acquired wealth for making her happy for like 5-10 minutes. And after that he goes back to being trash. Though the cliches were so abundant that i could barely think of crying between the WTFs. 5/10
11-24-12, 10:47 PM

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2382
The somewhat downer ending totally does makes sense. She's a princess; she can't just run away. I really loved the atmosphere of this movie. The characters weren't all that great, partly due to the voice acting, but they were cute together. Animation was beautiful - thank you Madhouse!
12-10-12, 6:25 PM

Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 124
there prob wouldn't be a second sequl BUT I WANT ONE!!!!!!!
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12-25-12, 5:49 PM

Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4588
loved the soundtrack an the characters
03-22-13, 4:58 AM

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 492
The movie was entertaining. Although the ending was not what I hoped for (was hoping for a more romantic feel ending), it's very much realistic. He still did what's best for the girl, even sacrificing his own happiness for it. I guess you can't always have your "happily ever after" endings.

Still, good movie, good movie! 8/10
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04-11-13, 12:39 AM

Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1950
This was way too cheesy and tired out in a bad way. It made me want to watch something like... Top Gun or Princess Bride instead.
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