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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
18 21.95%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
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02-24-12, 6:59 PM

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And the reason is.... to be revealed next episode.
 
02-24-12, 7:54 PM

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God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak
 
02-24-12, 8:26 PM

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lol, dunno why I felt a little sad once she landed the hit on the egg. First time I've found myself rooting for Yuji, even if it was in the dying seconds of the episode.
 
02-24-12, 9:00 PM

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newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


He has to create a world while fighting, multitasking isn't easy, its not that surprising that he appears weak, the power to create the new world comes from somewhere right? Don't you think the real plot alter would be if he could destroy everyone and create the world at the same time? the creation is suppose to be a process which is why they are even fighting now; if he was as powerful as you wanted him to be then he could snap his fingers and call it a day.
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02-24-12, 10:57 PM

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This has been bugging me for a while, but why does Shana not get hurt when she is blatantly blocking Yuji's Blutsauger?

I was under the impression that one could not directly block against the sword otherwise they would get hurt through the sword's special ability.

Seeing that they totally ignored that fact in Shana III really threw me off for a while.
 
02-24-12, 10:59 PM

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Sharnid said:
This has been bugging me for a while, but why does Shana not get hurt when she is blatantly blocking Yuji's Blutsauger?

I was under the impression that one could not directly block against the sword otherwise they would get hurt through the sword's special ability.

Seeing that they totally ignored that fact in Shana III really threw me off for a while.


The effect only takes place when the wielder infused power of existence into the sword. Yuji just isnt doing it because he is not fighting to kill her here. This entire battle is only to stall for time, he is fighting defensively while at the same time using a large portion of his strength to create Xanadu.
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02-24-12, 11:11 PM

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FUUUUUU why is it that this anime pisses me off so much >:/
when the tomogara's were the bad guys the flame haze's were super weak and now when the flame hazes are the bad guys THEY ARE OVERPOWERED! i hope all these new retard flame hazes die, they piss me off!
 
02-25-12, 12:33 AM

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InfiniteDestiny said:
newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


He has to create a world while fighting, multitasking isn't easy, its not that surprising that he appears weak, the power to create the new world comes from somewhere right? Don't you think the real plot alter would be if he could destroy everyone and create the world at the same time? the creation is suppose to be a process which is why they are even fighting now; if he was as powerful as you wanted him to be then he could snap his fingers and call it a day.


Yea....When i think of the "God of Creation" i get the idea of being able to undo everything and send everyone into oblivion if he felt the need to etc, but i guess even a god's power is limited......The fact that Shana is a serious threat to them would further this fact, since summoning Alastor's form would put him on equal footing against the snake. It always made me wonder if he's the god of creation...Why are they so worried about Shana and Alastor? Since i saw that episode they were emerging from that other world. Now it all makes sense. This episode did surprise me a bit, i thought the masked guy with the stringed instrument was with Yuji and his party, but it seems not?
 
02-25-12, 12:36 AM

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game8910 said:
Sharnid said:
This has been bugging me for a while, but why does Shana not get hurt when she is blatantly blocking Yuji's Blutsauger?

I was under the impression that one could not directly block against the sword otherwise they would get hurt through the sword's special ability.

Seeing that they totally ignored that fact in Shana III really threw me off for a while.


The effect only takes place when the wielder infused power of existence into the sword. Yuji just isnt doing it because he is not fighting to kill her here. This entire battle is only to stall for time, he is fighting defensively while at the same time using a large portion of his strength to create Xanadu.


This, pretty much...Honestly the way i see it, if Shana dies then there is no reason for Yuji to carry out the task of creating a new world anymore. I was actually surprised when Thousand threw his spear at Shana, it would've done some heavy damage if not for Wilhelmina stepping in to save her.
 
02-25-12, 12:38 AM

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im loling so hard right now! why is yuji so weak and shana all of a sudden so strong (please god dont tell me its just the "love" aspect of it). back at the beginning of the season yuji smacked her ass around and now he is having trouble just staying alive. for some reason im beginning to dislike the flame hazes even more. all that hatred of the denizens throughout the first two seasons has somehow flip flopped. i generally have never wanted the "bad" guys to win but now after i saw that smug ass smile from shana at the end and the most pointless reasoning behind wanting to stop the yuji, ive just about had it with the flame hazes. was this intended by the creator of shakugan no shana?
 
02-25-12, 12:41 AM

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God i hate waiting a week for another episode -.-
 
02-25-12, 1:31 AM

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lol, dunno why I felt a little sad once she landed the hit on the egg. First time I've found myself rooting for Yuji, even if it was in the dying seconds of the episode.


yeah same with me 'damn u shana and your smug smile' lol
 
02-25-12, 2:19 AM

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edmond321 said:
It kinda feels like this is getting way too rushed.. I mean, where did those rings come from anyways? What's the background to them? How come they cause so much damage? They didn't even show us how Shana obtained them...

yeah they did in season 2 with that Kasha guy
he was easy to beat but thats where she get the rings from
 
02-25-12, 3:26 AM

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InfiniteDestiny said:
newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


He has to create a world while fighting, multitasking isn't easy, its not that surprising that he appears weak, the power to create the new world comes from somewhere right? Don't you think the real plot alter would be if he could destroy everyone and create the world at the same time? the creation is suppose to be a process which is why they are even fighting now; if he was as powerful as you wanted him to be then he could snap his fingers and call it a day.


Yuji also lost one of his 'powers' when Johan left his body.
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02-25-12, 8:42 AM

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I also hope Shana doesn't want to simply ruin Yuji's plan, and I hate the other flame hazes more and more...
 
02-25-12, 7:55 PM

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......

Who should I be supporting here?
 
02-25-12, 9:33 PM

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newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


TsukiumiFanboy said:
im loling so hard right now! why is yuji so weak and shana all of a sudden so strong (please god dont tell me its just the "love" aspect of it). back at the beginning of the season yuji smacked her ass around and now he is having trouble just staying alive. for some reason im beginning to dislike the flame hazes even more. all that hatred of the denizens throughout the first two seasons has somehow flip flopped. i generally have never wanted the "bad" guys to win but now after i saw that smug ass smile from shana at the end and the most pointless reasoning behind wanting to stop the yuji, ive just about had it with the flame hazes. was this intended by the creator of shakugan no shana?


Yuji never was as strong as you thought he was.
The snake of the festival is a god level Tomogara the same way Shana is contracted to Alastor who's also a god level Tomogara. Shana isn't any weaker than Yuji.

When he came back to Misaki city Yuji was prepared to deal with everyone. The only reason it looked like he was overpowering everyone was because he was prepared. He knew the Silver would make Margery go nuts and he knew that by trapping Wilhelmina with her it would put Wilhelmina in a situation where she wouldn't be able to act for a while thus buying him time.
Then he also knew that Shana would be confused at the situation and giving that he is not any weaker than her this gave him the opportunity to trash her and take her with him.

Things is that now everyone is determined to fight against Yuji and they do not have any hesitation about that. If Wilhelmina and Margery would have been in a state to fight in the bridge fight then the outcome would have been a different story.
Yuji just lost part of his power (Since Joan left him) and he is fighting while protecting something, he can't just dodge attack aimed at the egg since that's the whole point he is fighting for so he gotta block them.
I think that he is doing pretty fine when all these things are against him.

People all goes 'Omg the snake is a god, how can he loses?' easy answer: When fighting another god aka Alastor which is contracted to Shana.
Also I would like to point out the type of god. The snake is the god of creation while Alastor is the god of destruction. Sound kind of easy but I think that it's normal that the god of destruction is physically stronger than the god of creation but maybe that's just me.
Alastor ain't considered for being the strongest being for nothing.
 
02-25-12, 10:03 PM

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Maddo_scientisto said:
newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


TsukiumiFanboy said:
im loling so hard right now! why is yuji so weak and shana all of a sudden so strong (please god dont tell me its just the "love" aspect of it). back at the beginning of the season yuji smacked her ass around and now he is having trouble just staying alive. for some reason im beginning to dislike the flame hazes even more. all that hatred of the denizens throughout the first two seasons has somehow flip flopped. i generally have never wanted the "bad" guys to win but now after i saw that smug ass smile from shana at the end and the most pointless reasoning behind wanting to stop the yuji, ive just about had it with the flame hazes. was this intended by the creator of shakugan no shana?


Yuji never was as strong as you thought he was.
The snake of the festival is a god level Tomogara the same way Shana is contracted to Alastor who's also a god level Tomogara. Shana isn't any weaker than Yuji.

When he came back to Misaki city Yuji was prepared to deal with everyone. The only reason it looked like he was overpowering everyone was because he was prepared. He knew the Silver would make Margery go nuts and he knew that by trapping Wilhelmina with her it would put Wilhelmina in a situation where she wouldn't be able to act for a while thus buying him time.
Then he also knew that Shana would be confused at the situation and giving that he is not any weaker than her this gave him the opportunity to trash her and take her with him.

Things is that now everyone is determined to fight against Yuji and they do not have any hesitation about that. If Wilhelmina and Margery would have been in a state to fight in the bridge fight then the outcome would have been a different story.
Yuji just lost part of his power (Since Joan left him) and he is fighting while protecting something, he can't just dodge attack aimed at the egg since that's the whole point he is fighting for so he gotta block them.
I think that he is doing pretty fine when all these things are against him.

People all goes 'Omg the snake is a god, how can he loses?' easy answer: When fighting another god aka Alastor which is contracted to Shana.
Also I would like to point out the type of god. The snake is the god of creation while Alastor is the god of destruction. Sound kind of easy but I think that it's normal that the god of destruction is physically stronger than the god of creation but maybe that's just me.
Alastor ain't considered for being the strongest being for nothing.
Maddo_scientisto said:
newnar said:
God it is so fucking obvious that the plot was altered such that Yuji became so damn weak


TsukiumiFanboy said:
im loling so hard right now! why is yuji so weak and shana all of a sudden so strong (please god dont tell me its just the "love" aspect of it). back at the beginning of the season yuji smacked her ass around and now he is having trouble just staying alive. for some reason im beginning to dislike the flame hazes even more. all that hatred of the denizens throughout the first two seasons has somehow flip flopped. i generally have never wanted the "bad" guys to win but now after i saw that smug ass smile from shana at the end and the most pointless reasoning behind wanting to stop the yuji, ive just about had it with the flame hazes. was this intended by the creator of shakugan no shana?


Yuji never was as strong as you thought he was.
The snake of the festival is a god level Tomogara the same way Shana is contracted to Alastor who's also a god level Tomogara. Shana isn't any weaker than Yuji.

When he came back to Misaki city Yuji was prepared to deal with everyone. The only reason it looked like he was overpowering everyone was because he was prepared. He knew the Silver would make Margery go nuts and he knew that by trapping Wilhelmina with her it would put Wilhelmina in a situation where she wouldn't be able to act for a while thus buying him time.
Then he also knew that Shana would be confused at the situation and giving that he is not any weaker than her this gave him the opportunity to trash her and take her with him.

Things is that now everyone is determined to fight against Yuji and they do not have any hesitation about that. If Wilhelmina and Margery would have been in a state to fight in the bridge fight then the outcome would have been a different story.
Yuji just lost part of his power (Since Joan left him) and he is fighting while protecting something, he can't just dodge attack aimed at the egg since that's the whole point he is fighting for so he gotta block them.
I think that he is doing pretty fine when all these things are against him.

People all goes 'Omg the snake is a god, how can he loses?' easy answer: When fighting another god aka Alastor which is contracted to Shana.
Also I would like to point out the type of god. The snake is the god of creation while Alastor is the god of destruction. Sound kind of easy but I think that it's normal that the god of destruction is physically stronger than the god of creation but maybe that's just me.
Alastor ain't considered for being the strongest being for nothing.



Shana super leveled up after she stop deceiving herself, another typical "awaken" moments where any hero becomes stronger just by doing nothing
 
02-25-12, 10:16 PM

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The god of creation's goal is to grant wishes. This time, the wish is the World Creation, not the annihilation of the Flame Haze. If you noticed, the Snake never directly attacked the Flame Haze.

And yes, everything is progressing just as planned.

Xanadu will be Yuji and Shana's "child".
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02-25-12, 10:45 PM

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I really enjoyed this episode. Reading some of the complaining posts does kind of hurt my head a bit...
 
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