I got my hands on some RAW DVD source and here is what I found out. Bear in mind that gore is there and kids. The list says it all.
PS: DVD source and need to see BD source for any quality changes. |
| That's just nasty lol. Can't wait for the BD xD |
| Its bad but thank god it isn't as bad as i expected still....he needs to die like fast!!!!! Hopefully as the plot is running probably with in the 2 first episodes he will be dead and i be really really happy. Even so......CANT WAIT TO SEE THE BD's!!! |
| This is indeed just sick Caster and his master need to be dealt with no mater what the costs are since they will only cause misery. It's no wonder Jeanne d'Arc didn't see anything in him tho this makes me wonder why she worked with him. |
| lol this is rather tame. After looking at the manga images I expected something worse. I don't think the DVD rental version includes any cutscenes, though, sooooo there may be more human art in episode 6 than what was shown here. Just 2 more weeks of waiting~ Aversa said: I only read a little of the time they fought alongside each other, but as a soldier Gilles was very powerful and a great leader. Jeanne could probably see that in him and wanted him in her army. It should also be noted that Gilles, both the character and actual person, became interested in the occult only after Jeanne's death. He may have helped to kill people before due to his grandfather (who was a terrible influence) and wasn't always...a stable(?) individual, but that didn't seem to have an affect on his war time. It's no wonder Jeanne d'Arc didn't see anything in him tho this makes me wonder why she worked with him. Of course there are differences between the character and historical figure so the last sentence may not be very accurate. |
MonochromeFeb 23, 2012 2:45 PM
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Monochrome said: But how do you know it's a rental version? Does it matter. DVD can get home owned but just of curiosity, the BDs have more than DVDs will? Did you get a source for that one?lol this is rather tame. After looking at the manga images I expected something worse. I don't think the DVD rental version includes any cutscenes, though, sooooo there may be more human art in episode 6 than what was shown here. Just 2 more weeks of waiting~ |
| Because the only way to get Fate/Zero on DVD is by renting it (there's a whole section for it on the official website). Right now Aniplex/ufotable is only selling BD sets and considering how concerned they are about quality, this isn't very surprising. |
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Monochrome said: Oh so that's it. DVD can't be bough but rented only. I did not know that.Because the only way to get Fate/Zero on DVD is by renting it (there's a whole section for it on the official website). Right now Aniplex/ufotable is only selling BD sets and considering how concerned they are about quality, this isn't very surprising. |
Monochrome said: Gilles de Rais was a nobleman who joined the military merely because a lot of nobles did so. France WAS in a state of civil War you know so it was in the nobles best intention to choose a side and make sure their intended king won. Not to mention it's noted that he was reckless and sometimes violent hence he loved the battefield. After he raised his riches further by earning the King's favour in war he went on to live a life of excess and eventually to dabble in the occult leading to the supposed abuse and murder of several hundreds of children.lol this is rather tame. After looking at the manga images I expected something worse. I don't think the DVD rental version includes any cutscenes, though, sooooo there may be more human art in episode 6 than what was shown here. Just 2 more weeks of waiting~ Aversa said: I only read a little of the time they fought alongside each other, but as a soldier Gilles was very powerful and a great leader. Jeanne could probably see that in him and wanted him in her army. It should also be noted that Gilles, both the character and actual person, became interested in the occult only after Jeanne's death. He may have helped to kill people before due to his grandfather (who was a terrible influence) and wasn't always...a stable(?) individual, but that didn't seem to have an affect on his war time. It's no wonder Jeanne d'Arc didn't see anything in him tho this makes me wonder why she worked with him. Of course there are differences between the character and historical figure so the last sentence may not be very accurate. Just as an aisde, the whole "dabble in the occult" and "torture and murder of hundreds of children" part is actually being put into question as of late, mainly because it was an accusation the Catholic Church pushed on him for reasons that may not have been entirely selfless (aka they wanted whatever was left of his lands). |
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| Wow, that stuff looks good. I was confused at what Caster and Ryuunosuke were doing in their little lab, because all of it was censored. Now I know. And it's awesome. Are they only adding gore to the DVD/BD? Any more material/touch-ups besides that? |
| No human pipe organ? Disappoint. |
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Keilis said: Possibly more on the BDs but who knows.Wow, that stuff looks good. I was confused at what Caster and Ryuunosuke were doing in their little lab, because all of it was censored. Now I know. And it's awesome. Are they only adding gore to the DVD/BD? Any more material/touch-ups besides that? |
Keilis said: There will be plenty of new scenes that were cut from the tv version.Are they only adding gore to the DVD/BD? Any more material/touch-ups besides that? |
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stAtic91 said: Apart from the DVD? Keilis said: There will be plenty of new scenes that were cut from the tv version.Are they only adding gore to the DVD/BD? Any more material/touch-ups besides that? So Static, kept my deal! This was all for you mainly and the community. |
Yumekichi11 said: This is what I've heard anyway. I guess the DVD was only uncensored and the cut material will be included in the BD. For example, the uncut episode 11 was aired and it was about 4 minutes longer than the cut version. Wasn't there something about there being about 40 min of cut material or was that just a rumor? Maybe that's just something I've dreamt, because it does sound too good to be true.stAtic91 said: Apart from the DVD? Keilis said: There will be plenty of new scenes that were cut from the tv version.Are they only adding gore to the DVD/BD? Any more material/touch-ups besides that? the Blu-ray Disc box release of the Fate/Zero anime series will have the "original edition" of episodes with scenes cut from the television broadcast. Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-10-06/fate/zero-bd-box-release-to-add-cut-scenesYumekichi11 said: I don't recall asking you for this, maybe it was someone else, but I do appreciate you doing it.So Static, kept my deal! This was all for you mainly and the community. |
stAtic91Feb 25, 2012 9:19 AM
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Leon-Gun said: I do remember reading something about that. I don't know enough about Gilles or the case to really have an opinion on it, but I can't see it going anywhere either. Just endless speculating.Just as an aisde, the whole "dabble in the occult" and "torture and murder of hundreds of children" part is actually being put into question as of late, mainly because it was an accusation the Catholic Church pushed on him for reasons that may not have been entirely selfless (aka they wanted whatever was left of his lands). stAtic91 said: It was stated in, I believe, a magazine about there being '40 minutes of bonus footage'. There didn't seem to be any specifics though so this may or may not only refer to cutscenes. We also never did learn what that bonus clip written by Nasu will be about...Wasn't there something about there being about 40 min of cut material or was that just a rumor? Maybe that's just something I've dreamt, because it does sound too good to be true. edit; Found the original source, it's all in Japanese though. |
MonochromeFeb 26, 2012 7:51 AM
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Aversa said: This is indeed just sick Caster and his master need to be dealt with no mater what the costs are since they will only cause misery. It's no wonder Jeanne d'Arc didn't see anything in him tho this makes me wonder why she worked with him. Hmm, Nasuverse speaking, Gilles was a really devoted, wide-eyed idealist knight who believed in Jeanne like one follows an idol (and he might have been in love with her too), fighting nobly for the King of France. Her death thrown him into despair and madness. He dabbled with the occult and all, but it's also tragically hinted that his deterioration is due to "Mental Pollution" trait which also physically deformed him. This fanart captures perfectly the before and after Jeanne's Death for Nasuverse Gilles: Jeanne trusted the legit-looking, handsome nobleman. Actually, a lot of people in Nasuverse who became antagonists might have been idealistic in the beginning (Zouken, for instance). I find ironic that Caster's wish is the most harmless and selfless out of ALL the Servants in the 4th Grail War. He just wants Jeanne alive, safe and sound. Saber, despite being so noble, her wish would potentially screwed over human history. These scenes look a bit too tame. There was more gore in KnK than here! |
ThessMar 1, 2012 6:25 PM
| Looks toned down from what I heard of the scenes from the light novels, but still quite disturbing to see Caster's twisted slaughter of children. |
| This doesn't include all of the uncensored scenes. I'm guessing that the ones left out are much more gruesome, most notably Caster's lair (human furnitures). |
lolzteez said: I think that is later than the last volume I saw but BDs will be the last version where more is supposed to be added.This doesn't include all of the uncensored scenes. I'm guessing that the ones left out are much more gruesome, most notably Caster's lair (human furnitures). |
| Kids got it rough D:. Damn that freakin' Caster, I honestly want him dead. |
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| no human umbrella, no human pipe organ. And it cost a lot. |
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -Andō & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
| Just saw the Blu Ray version. ernst said: no human umbrella, no human pipe organ. And it cost a lot. |
Yumekichi11 said: So what is added exactly? Pretty much what you got :P |
Yumekichi11 said: lolzteez said: Oh damn it did not change?Yumekichi11 said: So what is added exactly? Pretty much what you got :P have yet to see the human furnitures, but the scenes you posted were unchanged |
| Yeah I only checked out episodes 1, 2, & 6 so far and it's pretty much the same as your pictures. Very tame with hardly any detail. They didn't even animate a part of the evil duo's conversation that should have been in ep 6 (I figured it would be a cut scene), not to mention any of Ryuu's backstory either. I wasn't expecting the backstory anyway, but in the drama CD they still managed to do a much better job with both and also portraying Ryuunosuke's character in general. I'm disappointed. |
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Monochrome said: Too bad then, the Drama CD was less expensive but still with the ridiculous pricesthey charge for the box set that should have not been a problem. Costs are higher for the material to make the animation out of it perhaps?Yeah I only checked out episodes 1, 2, & 6 so far and it's pretty much the same as your pictures. Very tame with hardly any detail. They didn't even animate a part of the evil duo's conversation that should have been in ep 6 (I figured it would be a cut scene), not to mention any of Ryuu's backstory either. I wasn't expecting the backstory anyway, but in the drama CD they still managed to do a much better job with both and also portraying Ryuunosuke's character in general. I'm disappointed. |
| Who knows what the reason is. It does seem like ufotable wanted to avoid gore if possible which really is too bad. They did such a great job with the it in KnK, SO MUCH detail for some parts, and this is child's play compared to that. I'm not a fan of gore, but was looking forward to seeing ufotable's beautiful take on it once again. Now we can only sigh at what could have been. But if this also forced them to cut some dialogue that helps with characterization, well, that's fail. |
MonochromeMar 11, 2012 4:18 PM
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Monochrome said: I agree, it's a shame they did not follow to some extent the gore of Blood-C cause if they made it like that, I would be very much more affected. I guess it stays in the manga after all.Who knows what the reason is. It does seem like ufotable wanted to avoid gore if possible which really is too bad. They did such a great job with the it in KnK, SO MUCH detail for some parts, and this is child's play compared to that. I'm not a fan of gore, but was looking forward to seeing ufotable's beautiful take on it once again. Now we can only sigh at what could have been. But if this also forced them to cut some dialogue that helps with characterization, well, that's fail. |
Monochrome said: I wasn't expecting the backstory anyway, but in the drama CD they still managed to do a much better job with both and also portraying Ryuunosuke's character in general. I'm disappointed. I really want to see the novels and drama CD beeing released in North America. They even brought Fate/Extra there so it wouldn't be a bad move to do this too. I would really want to own these things (officially). The king's feast Gil laughter alone is worth the drama CD. |
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| Yeah Gilgamesh's laugh is far superior [and amusing] in the drama CD. Another disappointment :< I really want to buy that stuff too~ The novels getting a US release seems likely, but I have doubts about the drama CD. It's not common for such a thing to be released here anyway. |
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| I wonder why they never released the KnK novels though. That's why I doubt they'll release the Zero ones. I don't really know why, since they usually tend to release novels if the corresponding anime was released. Maybe the problem are these special BD sales which are only an object of interest for hardcore fans (because of the price) and in most cases only those watching an anime will also buy the novels of it who could be a rather small group here. On the other hand they also released some novels without the anime afaik so I am not sure. But if they don't do it, then there is just another reason to hope for a..say, more mainstreamish release someday, without extras and cheaper. I ordered the BDs myself but I would want to see the anime (legally) watched by many fans and not only a few ones who accidently saved enough money in the last year. |
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| I would think Fate is more well-known than KnK in the US, and therefore would have a better chance. As far as FSN goes both the anime and manga received decent releases before their respective English companies shut down. And like you mentioned before there's Fate/Extra as well. I don't pay attention to the novel/manga side of things though so I can't even guess what companies look for when licensing a series. Besides popularity of course. I bought the box set as well, not taking any chances, but it would surly be great to see a cheaper release. There's no telling what Aniplex will do at this point. |
MonochromeMar 13, 2012 9:41 PM
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| Is it wrong that I still want to see caster last at least until the final three? His sickening madness... I don't know why... I just LOVE IT! >:) |
Stanfoo said: Apologize for the necro but which version are these scenes from? I do not recall seeing most of the scenes in the above pictures while watching FZ. As the OP said, it's from the DVD source. It's very common for the DVD and Blu-ray releases of (modern anime) to touch-up on the art, and perhaps un-censor things. You most likely watched a TV-rip. |
Stanfoo said: Apologize for the necro but which version are these scenes from? I do not recall seeing most of the scenes in the above pictures while watching FZ. That means that you should download a bd release and watch from the beginning,since some eps have more content as well. |
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