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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
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3 out of 5: It was OK
 
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02-21-12, 4:27 PM

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Taichi... My heart cries for you...

I almost cried when Chihaya just LEFT Taichi to watch Arata. It's okay, Taichi, you can have me! I also didn't like that look of relief on Arata's face when Taichi said that he and Chihaya weren't going out. And Taichi really stepped up to the plate when he refused the promotion, I knew he was going to refuse because he's not the type of person who will just "settle".

Finally, PLEASE CAN WE HAVE A SEASON 2. PLEEEEAAAASSEEEE.


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02-21-12, 4:49 PM

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TBOkmph said:
Kurini said:
IT HURTS!
It hurts to watch Taichi suffering two episode in a row!
I love Taichi! He's such a great person!

And I'm actually upset of Chihaya, didn't she say she is going to SUPPORT Taichi morally? He was on the verge of falling!! :( but well, it's chihaya, it can't be helped.

Seriously, the mangaka is so cruel, making me love Taichi so much and yet make him lose the most important matches and make him suffer because of his love for Chihaya, but what's more? She makes it obvious that Chihaya and Arata are going to end up together!! :I


I don't see any of that! Taichi was the "generic perfect boy" in the beginning, good looking, number one grades, awesome at sports, rich, now it kinda feels like karma what he's going through! To tell a story "perfect" is not good, a conflict is need. And I love his hardships because he's actually developing a great personality from it; "I don't want to go to Class A as much as I don't want to run away" hell yeah, that was cool.

And so far it's more pushed towards the game and the friendships than the romance with anyone. As if a couple is made = the story will end. Chihaya is so single-minded after all! I don't know, differently from the general opinion I guess I rather the way it is now.


I agree with you, it just shows how great he is and that he's serious about Karuta.
But I'm still sad about it, I hope luck will come to him soon!
 
02-21-12, 5:28 PM

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I am glad Taichi is getting thrown around in this plot. He's the most realistic character. Life isn't so convenient where you win every single match and born with some amazing talent.

A bit inappropriate, but, Chihaya got "wet" from seeing Arata. Hu, hu, hu.
 
02-21-12, 6:52 PM

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Epic. XD
Loved it!

Chihaya x Arata FTW! :P

Arata blush was so cute! Seeing how relieved he was to know Chihaya and Taichi aren't a couple was one of the best parts! >.<
I think Arata likes Chihaya....this episode confirms it! ...maybe. juts MO. x3
I use to think Chihaya liked Arata just didn't fully know she did, but after what she said on the train to Kana, I think Chihaya just might actually know. <3
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Can't wait for the next episode!
Only 5 left. :(

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02-21-12, 6:53 PM

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Damn Taichi is such a well developed character, he's easily one of my favorites in the show, I feel so bad for him. :(

I like how at first when this anime began, I didn't like him, now I love him. WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD CHIHAYAFURU? Q_Q
 
02-21-12, 7:06 PM

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I was hoping Taichi would join the dark side of Karuta, where they accidentally miss the cards and and consequently knock out the opponent. But no. Taichi remains class B, in more than just the game. I didn't like this episode as much, except maybe the last few moments.
 
02-21-12, 7:39 PM

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Chihaya finally chooses to support Tachi, but at the same instance, she turns her attention to arata =.=

I still support Taichi x Chihaya.

She's already subconsciously playing her part as Taichi's gf, yet her admiration is still with arata.
 
02-21-12, 7:57 PM

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Yeah...definitely shipping Taichi x Chihaya. Taichi has so much depth to him - it's pretty impressive.
 
02-21-12, 8:01 PM

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Shit got real awesome. :)
 
02-21-12, 8:02 PM

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If Taichi had accepted the Dr.'s offer, I would have forever branded him as a coward and undeserving of the A rank. Fortunately he still has some balls. I still think he has way too much screen-time compared to Arata. I actually hope the part when Chihaya was on the train with Kana; was foreshadowing something significant relating to the poem by Lady Murasaki Shikibu about possibly being about love and/or friendship. Although it does quite fit Arata's relationship with Chihaya and maybe even Taichi.

I hope Chihaya get's Arata's phone number/email address in the end. It's nice of Arata to be considerate and tact about his being apart from Chihaya and Taichi for so long, but he needs to be more assertive even if there was a possibility they were going out like Arata had thought.

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Taichi is going and met Arata. Both are iin B.


One problem with that. They're both not in B (rank) if that's what you mean. Arata got promoted to A rank at least 18 months prior to his match, around the time his grandfather died, and he hasn't played since.

For the tournament that Arata and Taichi competed in, had both ranks A and B played in the same room. The A rank players would compete for the Master rank qualifiers.

TBOkmph said:
Kurini said:
IT HURTS!
It hurts to watch Taichi suffering two episode in a row!
I love Taichi! He's such a great person!

And I'm actually upset of Chihaya, didn't she say she is going to SUPPORT Taichi morally? He was on the verge of falling!! :( but well, it's chihaya, it can't be helped.

Seriously, the mangaka is so cruel, making me love Taichi so much and yet make him lose the most important matches and make him suffer because of his love for Chihaya, but what's more? She makes it obvious that Chihaya and Arata are going to end up together!! :I


I don't see any of that! Taichi was the "generic perfect boy" in the beginning, good looking, number one grades, awesome at sports, rich, now it kinda feels like karma what he's going through! To tell a story "perfect" is not good, a conflict is need. And I love his hardships because he's actually developing a great personality from it; "I don't want to go to Class A as much as I don't want to run away" hell yeah, that was cool.

And so far it's more pushed towards the game and the friendships than the romance with anyone. As if a couple is made = the story will end. Chihaya is so single-minded after all! I don't know, differently from the general opinion I guess I rather the way it is now.


This.
People keep saying how poor Taichi is or whatnot, or that no one seems to care about him, but none of these are true. Every character has gone through difficulties that contribute to their character development, just some more than others. Arata lost his beloved grandfather which left him a train wreck. Komano had to deal with his self-consciousness and insecurities about what it meant to be a good student studying for their future. Kana still feels upset at people who play competitive Karuta when they don't pay enough attention to the poems meanings but rather only the syllables, and she also wishes more people would pay more heed to tradition. Nishida felt insecure about himself because he felt he was running away from what he truly desired which wasn't tennis but Karuta, and still loves it like he always has. And finally Chihaya, despite still being an air-head, has her own dream to become the karuta Queen after her misconception of what it meant to have a dream to strive for. But she still feels upset at her own shortcomings, while at the same time she admires her close friend and rival, Arata, she wishes to become better and not lose anymore to the point it's become an obsession, which is pretty much all she cares about, (her thoughts on future is just a tiny bubble at the bottom of her mind).

Before anyone starts to think of Chihaya as selfish or something along those lines because she left Taichi after he lost to see Arata play, I hope no one forgets the promise the three of them made together in the past. They promised that they would meet again and face each other in Karuta, which is what binds them together. May have been worded differently, but the thought is still there. And Arata clearly expressed his desire to play both Taichi and Chihaya on more than one occasion, which since it's Chihaya, she puts at the forefront of priorities. Chihaya loves Karuta so much not only because Arata opened a new door for her, but because Karuta is what brought the three of them together as close friends, which is why Chihaya teared up from seeing Arata playing again after she was first heartbroken when Arata said he would quit for good. Even Taichi realized what Chihaya was feeling from seeing him play again because he admitted that he was happy deep down that Arata came back, but didn't see it at first because he was too caught up with his self-loathing from losing.

Taichi doesn't need any pity or anyone feeling sorry for him which he clearly expressed with his response to to Dr. Harada's offer.
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02-21-12, 8:10 PM

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Seriously... It's like no one cares about Taichi at all in this show lol

1. He was CLEARLY depress of going alone -> Chihaya rushes over there as well to cheer for him if he wins... or loses. Good Try!?... please try harder. She get there and then all she cares about it Arata... leading to Number 2. Everyone one else also had better to do. It's Ok. It happens.
2. He was even MORE depress of losing again without making it to Class A. He sat on the bench and looked fucking depress. Oh ! Chihaya happens to come at this moment ready to cheer on him !... It's good to have 'Good Intention' but sometimes, it's good to also put them into action. She ignored him once she knew about Arata and keep the ./ignore until he came to her, AGAIN.
3. Depress again because Chihaya dump him for Arata like usual. No one cares ! no no no ! Arata doesn't notice but... I wasn't really expecting him to notice. Would have be nice to see tho.

The only person that seems to notice that everything is going wrong for him is Harada sensei. He tried to help. He did it better than Chihaya lol but, Taichi turned him down. It's good. It is. I like Taichi even more. His problem aren't only related to Karuta and being Class A or B. Staying Class B wouldn't have been this horrible if Chihaya wasn't such an horrible friend.

And then, she talk about this 'friendship' poem with Kanna on the Train. What does she knows about Friendship. She's acting like one when she feels like it. She is still a character I really like and all of that. I might like her even more after this episode for showing how selfish she can be but... Arata, really ? He's been absent for too long for me. Too Bad.
 
02-21-12, 10:00 PM

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I feel terrible for Taichi, but I'm a ChihayaxArata fan.

It was so awkward when Arata said he thought Taichi and Chihaya were a couple! XD
I loved it. Arata was so cute.


And when Taichi declined the offer, his laugh was so effin' cute. :<

Love this episode.

Only 5 more episodes... I need more Chihayafuru!! Second season? :D
 
02-21-12, 10:25 PM

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Woot. Arararararata-kun is back :D.

I don't know if its just me, or does taichi sound even more girly now? O.o Arata's voice is so...soothing? xD

Nice that Arata lost too :D I WANT THE QUEEN TO MORE SCREEN TIME D: TEAM SHINOBU!!!!!

5/5
 
02-21-12, 11:32 PM

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I have to say, it's been a long time since I've felt so emotional about an anime. Taichi's rise from a classroom bully to a team leader to a subdued badass who faces his weaknesses without running away is immensely satisfying. I'm really hoping for a Taichi/Chihaya ending but as long as the directing and emotions keep flowing this well, I'm giving Chihayafuru a 10/10. Best josei anime I've seen. Best sports anime I've seen. Heck, maybe even my favorite anime of all time.
 
02-21-12, 11:35 PM

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this anime is excruciating and heart wrenching for both Taichi x Chihaya and Arata x Chihaya fans
 
02-21-12, 11:52 PM
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I started off feeling that Chihaya x Arata might be the better match, but after watching Taichi's character develop over the series I really do want it to be a Chihaya x Taichi ending. It looks like Chihaya just might be beginning to get an inkling that she might have to choose between love and friendship in her relationships with the two boys, based on her realization about the meaning of the poem on the train.
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02-22-12, 1:50 AM

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Poor baby Taichi. :(
 
02-22-12, 2:24 AM

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Did taichi lose to arata in the 3rd round?& it really seems like chihaya loves arata...
 
02-22-12, 4:29 AM

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Did taichi lose to arata in the 3rd round?& it really seems like chihaya loves arata...


no taichi Play in class B player category and lose in the third round, on the other hand arata play in Class A Player category and lose to #1 student of Harada Sensei but the Student of harada sensei win on luck only aside from that arata never play karuta for one and half years so is expected to arata not to win, arata need to pratice a little to go back to his game.

rodac said:
I started off feeling that Chihaya x Arata might be the better match, but after watching Taichi's character develop over the series I really do want it to be a Chihaya x Taichi ending. It looks like Chihaya just might be beginning to get an inkling that she might have to choose between love and friendship in her relationships with the two boys, based on her realization about the meaning of the poem on the train.


is there big possibility that chihaya and arata migh match in one of the tournament that shinobu will not joining in example in the tournament held in tokyo but not the tournament held in kyoto that held every summer of july but i more expecting a shinobu and arata match. actually i want to watch it because shinobu and arata learn karuta from arata grandfather.

chihaya taichi ending is very slim to tell you honestly, all the clue drop by the writer specially the poem. - specially all the poem is very important the poem sighted in the manga is like a prophetic clue sadly 95% of love poem is pointing to chiharata route.

actually you will understand the plot of the story just listen and try to understand the ending theme of chihayafuru . i will put some important line translated already in English
[- Even if we are far apart, I have faith that
our futures, originating from the same dream, will be connected.
We have made a vow to each other to meet at the promised place someday
-And now, the two of us are gazing at each's separate path.
And now, I will sing again, until the day when our thoughts will be reunited
-Even when I'm at a loss, I will gather and mix the colors of my dream.
Precisely because I'm thinking about you, I will be able to become stronger.
I definitely will not let it end
-And now, I look up at the sky that leads to you.
And now, I will sing again, and my song will reach you no matter where you are ]

Is really undeniable that the song is for Arata and chihaya, chiharata in short.


:example of the picture below we all know chihayafuru is about Deep Love or Red Love
this is the second time the author express it to who this poem are pointing. #1 in episode 6 arata with red deep background in the back and this is the second one.



sorry if someone might not agree on me, but i only comment an opinion base on evidence not on Hersey opinion. but everyone is title to their own opinion the question only is their opinion has a basis? =)
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02-22-12, 7:38 AM

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Poor Taichi, always the shows whipping boy. Respect him for not taking the pass he was offered but also sad that we're not even going to get and see him shooting for the top now. That was his last shot, wasn't it?
 
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