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Today my friends and I composed a list of the most overrated animes. I believe the final result was this:

1st Gurren Lagann
2nd Naruto
3rd Lucky Star

Do you agree? Discuss.

I disagree.
The most overrated anime is Full Metal Alchemist. That may just be my opinion but as far as I'm concerned it's fact.

Gurren Lagann: Yes I think it's a bit overated, but I don't think it would be anywhere near one of the "most overated", it's still a good show.

Naruto: As a narutard I have to disagree. Yes I know Naruto isn't that good, and I think most narutards would agree it's not the best show, but I still enjoy it. It's true that unfortunately a lot more people watch Naruto than many of the better shows out there, but most of them probably wouldn't give the show a 10 or anything.

Lucky Star: Yes I agree, but this is the Anti-Lucky Star club so I think everyone here is gonna agree to that one.

I wouldn't really consider any of those three to be the most overrated since all of them are too recent. But if I were to opt to add in a contender for most overrated, I'd pick Evangelion.

I think FLCL is the most overrated. I just cannot understand what is so great about that anime and I'm shocked to see that almost everyone loves it.

Gurren Lagann: It's not a bad anime but it is still highly overrated.

Naruto: I know there are lots of people who like it but there are also thousands who hate it so when I think of overrated anime, I usually don't think of Naruto.

Lucky Star: I definitely agree with you about that one

I don't agree with Gurren Lagann being on top, but I can respect it while it's up there. It was dece, at least. Personally, I think that the most overrated anime on MAL, proportionate to it's actual quality, was Haruhi. Its being in the top ten was a mystery to me, and the popular rationales don't really justify it. I thought Haruhi was so overrated founded a club by that name. After which it dropped something like fifteen places down the list. Boo-yah! How has Lucky Star's rating has been affected since this club began? It was at #46 or so before (I checked the page the day it was founded), and now it's *drumroll* #58. We win the war!

Anyway, second would be Geass R2, which is up there largely because it's the sequel to Geass, and climbed to the #3 spot in 2 episodes. And third, is, of course, Lucky Star. Naruto and Bleach tie for fourth.

I'm surprised that R2 is higher than the first season. R2 is so much worse than the first season

The most overrated is probably Fullmetal Alchemist.
Then: Lucky Star, Dragon Ball, School Days, FLCL. All of them are absurdly overrated.
Since I still haven't watched Code Geass and Gurren Lagann I can't say if they are overrated or not.
About Naruto well, it's really overrated, but the problem is that it's adored by kids and narutards. it's not the worst anime ever but obviously is FAR from being awesome.

Haruhi is one of my favorites. I can't even begin to fathom why some people don't like it, but I don't know if there really is a way to justify why it's so good. I suggest you watch it again with an open mind.

PS. Yuki in episode 10. That's gotta be one of the best scenes ever.

In retrospect, maybe TTGL wasn't the best choice for first, but it is still vastly overrated in regard to the fact that, at present, the series is the highest rated series on MAL, with a 9.01 average rating. This is something I believe it does not deserve, as while good nonetheless, the show is simply not the greatest piece of animation in all of anime existence. It is a 7 at best.



Well, it would surprise you how many people like Naruto, especially the younger demographics. But it is overrated in the sense that enough people think of it as amazingly good when in reality, compared to other animes its actually quite shitty.

I see Fullmetal Alchemist and FLCL being brought up by a few of you. Frankly, I loved them both and found them to be quite good. If you don't like them, that's okay: they are not for everyone. But overrated? Probably not.



Your opinion is the only one I have a problem with. Evangelion is intelligent, thought provoking, original, and has characters with depth. Sure the series didn't end properly (the last two episodes were not bad, the ending just didn't answer any questions and resolved nothing), but End of Evangelion took care of that and kept all the charm of the series. On top of that, Evangelion defines modern anime. Most present action/drama animes have been infulenced by EVA, so much that one could call this the post-Evangelion era. The series is also one of the few I actually bought the box set of. It's shiny. :]

Anyways, on the subject of Code Geass R2, I admit the first season was better, though these last few episodes are getting really good.

I agree. I would give it a 6.5/10

I thought FMA was an okay anime but it is definitely overrated. Haruhi is too.

I haven't seen much of Evangelion so I won't say anything about it. I do know that the main male character is really annoying though

I think the common way to describe him is "emo," but you try piloting a giant living robo-mech against aliens that are trying to kill you, while barely knowing what you are doing and why you are doing it, on top of which having a father that is an arrogant bastard and treats you like crap, and see if you don't have psychological problems.

:/

I watched it the first time without even having heard of it, before I joined MAL and before I really had any distinct grasp on mainstream opinions of anime. My original dislike of Haruhi had nothing to do with its undeserved hype. It was just an issue with the show's quality - the comedic timing was off by a mile, the humor was nothing more than a series of weak references (which were frankly awkward to watch), the characters were both unrealistic and pancake-flat, especially Haruhi. I find little to like in a show with such characteristics. If you have no way of justifying why it's so good then arguably it isn't so good.



Fighting with the student council president? Not really. It was a fight scene between two superpowered covert ops backstabbing one another, one of them silent moe and the other genki moe. Concepts like that are pretty common, and the scene itself was not very well-done.

Well excuse me Jiminy Glick but I also watched it several years ago and didn't get one single reference to any other anime in the show because I'd hardly seen jack shit then. All the humor I got came from the characters themselves, not from show references. Furthermore Haruhi wasn't some shitty ass comedy that referenced other shows, don't even compare it to Lucky Star. Haruhi isn't even a comedy.

The show is intended to be taken at face value. A show about a girl trying to find some meaning in her life, not even aware of just how important she is. All the other bells and whistles included in the show are just icing on the cake.

She is not a "Pancake-flat character". Most anime characters these days are "pancake-flat", Haruhi is a pioneer character to the anime industry. If she's a pancake-flat then please name me one other God character in anime, who's as ignorant as Haruhi; and of course the characters are "unrealistic", there's a pyschic, a time-traveler and a 3 year old biological alien/cyborg. Did you perhaps know some people in reality who fell under these categories? Maybe you should see a shrink if you know what a realistic cyborg/alien acts like when monitoring a god who's in highschool.

Also the scene was indeed awesome, and well done. I don't know how you would have preferred the scene, but I'm guessing you would have gotten Richard C. Mongler to direct it.

For the record, I don't find numbers to be particularly useful as opinions or arguments in regards to entertainment.


How can such an intelligent piece of work could just fall flat with an ending such as that? What was the purpose of the Human Instrumentality Project? Was Shinji aware of the consequences of his participation? Personally, it left me very unsatisfied and frustrated. I haven't seen End of Evangelion as of yet, but having that as the ending is more like applying a "software patch" to The Last Supper.

I'd also like to add Black Lagoon to the list for its lack of originality.


The characters are parodies of the typical anime archetypes, and there are scenes when those characters rise above those archetypes in place of being wastes of space.

durr durr durr... Torisunanohokori rates Dragonball Z shows at 7 & 8 but gives Haruhi a 4.

durr durr durr... Makaiohi gives Black Lagoon a 5 based on it's "lack of originality" even though he knows he likes it.

I think I'll make a club about whether or not debating shit over the internet ever makes an impact on the opposition. I'll call it the "Cruel Irony Club".

Yeah, especially when it manages to make action scenes incredibly boring. ;)

Protip: Quit using numbers as one's sole opinion of a particular show. You'd be surprised at how an actual firsthand opinion matters more than just whatever numerical value comes out of a review or anime list.


Fixed.

No I called it The Cruel Irony club.
http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=6131

I've obviously gotta work on it some more, but I think I'm well aware of how difficult it is to represent a firsthand opinion with a number. What I was saying is that both your firsthand opinion and number sucked. Black Lagoon is awesome.

Protip: don't throw your 4chan nonsense at me

So does yours.

Also, you dismissed my attempt at sarcasm as "4chan nonsense," because that is exactly what you are doing. You're taking our firsthand opinions and numbers seriously for the fact that they don't match yours. Then you come here and waste our time (including yours) making useless insults just to say your e-penis is bigger than ours.

Take your dick waving somewhere else.

BTW: http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=927
This predates you by something like a year.

(Unwritten rule of MAL ettiquite: Never use people's ratings to diss them)
Somebody already tried to do this, and while I'm a little less defensive about my DBZ ratings than I am about my Ah! Megami-sama ratings, it's still an irrelevant matter to my Haruhi ratings. In the first place, you're comparing apples to oranges. Second of all, I rated Dragonball an 8 because it is a classic kung-fu anime, and not as drawn out as DBZ was. DBZ I rated as a 7 because, while the whole thing took a long time, I wasn't really ever "jolted" out of my viewing in the way I would had to have been to give it a 6 (which I gave to GT, F.Y.I.). Going after something unrelated doesn't help your Haruhi argument much, it just makes me spend time explaining that as well.



A show can be ruined by bad jokes without being a comedy. And the jokes in Harhi were sad to watch - like someone trying to use a joke from VGcats in a normal school day.



More like castor oil on the rock. If it is a story about a girl looking for herself, that's been done before. If it's a story about unintentional god powers, that's been done by fanfic authors for years, I've observed before that Haruhi is written rather like a poor fanfic.



Yes, actually she is. She's a god character who frivolously uses her powers, which in and of itself makes her an inartful plot device, but Haruhi's real lack of depth comes from the fact that the emotions which she experiences are somewhat childish, and always predictable. She never really changes or shows evolution of character beyond that of a preteen girl with a social adaptivity disorder. She herself doesn't much go through character development - most of her "development" is really just screen-time as the main character.

There's a big difference between "fictional and "unrealistic". My issue with the characters is not the fundamental concepts their actions are based on, but on the flat stereotypes to which they conform.



I guess you're more highbrow than me then, because I don't even know who that is. Is "awesome" the only defense you have for it? That scene was not special, it was stereotypical, and I cold get the same almost anywhere.

End of Evangelion is great and a more fitting end to the series in every way. Questions are answered and the visuals are stunning. I didn't leave me unsatisfied or frustrated.