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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
213 64.94%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
65 19.82%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
26 7.93%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
12 3.66%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
12 3.66%
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02-14-12, 3:42 AM

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Glad that at least one character wasn't raped.
 
02-14-12, 4:13 AM

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God this show is full of retard.

I listed up some of the retarded moments I could remember. Here's some:

Retarded moment 1: That one year ago flashback didn't serve any purpose except for mindless comedy which wasn't even funny. Well for me that is. I mean the show took a much serious turn last ep, why would you insert mindless comedy now?

Retarded moment 2: How in the hell did Yuno got her parents to crawl into that cage?

Retarded moment 3: Yukki's dad said he was sorry and that he didn't have any regrets? Holy shit, you killed your ex-wife and you didn't have any regrets. The scriptwriter must have had a recent brain surgery.

Retarded moment 4: Yukki forgiving his dad like it was nothing after saying he wanted to see the stars with the 3 of them when clearly he was the one who killed his mom.

I might have missed some so feel free to add, because I know that in Mirai Nikki, retardedness doesn't stop.

Wasabi said:
My god, this show has some of the worst inconsistencies. And people whine about Guilty Crown being terrible.

This is so true.
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02-14-12, 5:55 AM

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O.o poor Yuki he is suffering a lot because of this future diaries.

And what the... with Yuno and what she done with her parents. She really has a problem
 
02-14-12, 6:35 AM

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God this show is full of retard.

I listed up some of the retarded moments I could remember. Here's some:

Retarded moment 1: That one year ago flashback didn't serve any purpose except for mindless comedy which wasn't even funny. Well for me that is. I mean the show took a much serious turn last ep, why would you insert mindless comedy now?

Retarded moment 2: How in the hell did Yuno got her parents to crawl into that cage?

Retarded moment 3: Yukki's dad said he was sorry and that he didn't have any regrets? Holy shit, you killed your ex-wife and you didn't have any regrets. The scriptwriter must have had a recent brain surgery.

Retarded moment 4: Yukki forgiving his dad like it was nothing after saying he wanted to see the stars with the 3 of them when clearly he was the one who killed his mom.

I might have missed some so feel free to add, because I know that in Mirai Nikki, retardedness doesn't stop.

Wasabi said:
My god, this show has some of the worst inconsistencies. And people whine about Guilty Crown being terrible.

This is so true.


^ Everything this guy said.

Yukii forgives his dad only because he apologized? Really?...
He killed his fucking MOTHER.

Dropped. I've had enough of its bullshit.
 
02-14-12, 7:54 AM

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yet one thing i'm still HUH give wonder does yuki got like so "mother-son" incest on his mom?

really even going letter give try to female look like his mom?

are you serious bro?! yea really give i'm assume pics/fic ideas whole yuki has mom-obsession yet really part me think could it be incest?
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Silent_Scream said:
God this show is full of retard.

I listed up some of the retarded moments I could remember. Here's some:

Retarded moment 1: That one year ago flashback didn't serve any purpose except for mindless comedy which wasn't even funny. Well for me that is. I mean the show took a much serious turn last ep, why would you insert mindless comedy now?

Retarded moment 2: How in the hell did Yuno got her parents to crawl into that cage?

Retarded moment 3: Yukki's dad said he was sorry and that he didn't have any regrets? Holy shit, you killed your ex-wife and you didn't have any regrets. The scriptwriter must have had a recent brain surgery.

Retarded moment 4: Yukki forgiving his dad like it was nothing after saying he wanted to see the stars with the 3 of them when clearly he was the one who killed his mom.

I might have missed some so feel free to add, because I know that in Mirai Nikki, retardedness doesn't stop.

Wasabi said:
My god, this show has some of the worst inconsistencies. And people whine about Guilty Crown being terrible.

This is so true.


Amen!

Finally someone else sees the shit in this episode. And still over 65 % have gave this episode a 5/5.
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02-14-12, 8:45 AM

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I guess i'm gonna need more crack to take if i wanna understand the next episode. just sayin :l
 
02-14-12, 9:22 AM
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Retarded moment 2: How in the hell did Yuno got her parents to crawl into that cage?
The sleeping pills were shown for a reason.
 
02-14-12, 10:39 AM

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Hello, I'm new. And for all the people complaining about Yuki, he most likely shouldn't have, but did you people miss the fact that his father was going to turn himself in or something? What, that isn't enough for you people? You want him to end up taking revenge ala Hell Girl or something?

Wasabi said:
My god, this show has some of the worst inconsistencies. And people whine about Guilty Crown being terrible.


Because Guilty Crown's inconsistencies ARE worse than this show. Complain all you want, but what happens in this show is actually more consistent than people give it credit for. Yuki was always forgiving. The police were always incompetent (Ninth is walking around free for god's sake). And is it really that hard to believe that Yuki's dad realized what he did after he killed somebody?

GC is, and always will be, worse than this show because it never sticks to its own set of rules for more than an episode.
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02-14-12, 11:06 AM

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Flawfinder said:
Hello, I'm new. And for all the people complaining about Yuki, he most likely shouldn't have, but did you people miss the fact that his father was going to turn himself in or something? What, that isn't enough for you people? You want him to end up taking revenge ala Hell Girl or something?


After all the shit Yuki's father has done, Yes that is exactly what I wanted to happen.

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02-14-12, 11:17 AM

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After all the shit Yuki's father has done, Yes that is exactly what I wanted to happen.


I may not know about Japanese prison or anything, but it can't be good in there.
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02-14-12, 11:31 AM

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Flawfinder said:

Because Guilty Crown's inconsistencies ARE worse than this show. Complain all you want, but what happens in this show is actually more consistent than people give it credit for. Yuki was always forgiving. The police were always incompetent (Ninth is walking around free for god's sake). And is it really that hard to believe that Yuki's dad realized what he did after he killed somebody?

GC is, and always will be, worse than this show because it never sticks to its own set of rules for more than an episode.


This man speaks the truth.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
02-14-12, 12:32 PM

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Oh God, everyone is complaining about this show. @_@ Calm down.

Maybe my arguments won't be descent, but all I can think of is:

- Yes, Yuno used these pills to drug her parents and drag them into a cage. Simple.

- Just have a think about Yukiteru's situation. He is mentally weak because he has never experienced so much stress in his life. He's also only 14/15 years old, which means he can still be a little bit childish with his naive dreams. Remember Yuno? Her only motivation to live was protecting Yukki and becoming his wife.
Yukiteru has always been antisocial, silent, thought that life is meaningless. His little dream about seeing stars with his parents was his only wish and light in the hopeless life of his, as parents' separation was the worst thing that happened to him. It can seem stupid, but for some people these small, silly things really count.
Every diary holder already went through going from normal person to psycho. Not Amano because he on the other hand was thrown into a game where all his morals, beliefs and sanity were crushed down and putted in the bin. Throughout the game, he was becoming more and more mentally unstable.
Considering all these facts, let's come back to the actual scene, where Yukiteru 'forgave' his father. My opinion? He was desparate. If you remember the scene just before that, at home, when his injured whimpy-father bummed into house, Yukiteru was on the edge of hating and loving his father. He was so unstable, and even if his both sane and (slowly developing) insane side hated him, on the contrary he was still desparate for happiness in his life. AND WHO THE HELL HAVE EVER SAID HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT HIS ACTUAL FEELINGS, WHEN HE DIDN'T KNOW HIMSELF? That's right, he has made up with his father. However don't mix up the events in the story. Just when he was saying that he forgives his dad's sins, what Yukki actually wants is to find some hope and light in the slowly decaying world he's in, even if on the inside Amano detestes Kurou. And when his whimpy dad apologized, Yukiteru's childish beliefs won again.
Subsequently Yukki's father got killed.
And Yukki went completely insane. Forgetting his sanity, he fell for the madness and naiveness in repairing the world by... Killing.
Yukiteru IS naive and weak, that's because he wasn't ready for being involved into a survival game like this. However, he has also become insane after a while. (Tell me, who became psycho from 'just like that'? Everyone have lost something in their lives/were traumatized)
Nobody will understand insane person's mind, until they won't become mad themselves.
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- ... This girl looking like Amano's mum? The only similarity is that they both have glasses (and different looking glasses additionaly). And both had long hair, oh right. Their personalities and eye colours are different, the shade of brown on their hair isn't the same as well. Maybe Sakae Esuno should change hair colour/fringe more, but isn't the rest is the case of Esuno-san having a specific and not so much varied style of drawing, so obviously girls with glasses will look somewhat similar...?

- Kurou didn't know that destroying son's phone means killing him. The only whimpy things that he did was escaping from the building and leaving his song alone, killing his mum and saying "I have no regrets". WTF man? Burn in hell.

- Why is Yuno a 'superhuman'? Well, because some people may have complaints, that in episode about 5th, Yuno had these superpowers and used them to find out where 5th's diary is. This is going to be a HUGE spoiler and you only get to know it near the end of manga, so I'm not responsible for any concequences of your actions.


- No, the third corpse isn't Wakaba's.

- Why is the police not arresting Minene or Yuno? Well, let's consider the fact, what happened with 4th. Also, they are both diary holders and interrupting the game may cause more trouble than advantage. Also, everyone knows that the detective in secretly in love with Minene-san ~

I think that's all.
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02-14-12, 1:07 PM

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great episode, a big jump and revelation has been made, now Yukki will start being badass? :D Gassai Yuno emergency use card, she is now basically a slave
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Monochrome said:
Silent_Scream said:
Retarded moment 2: How in the hell did Yuno got her parents to crawl into that cage?
The sleeping pills were shown for a reason.

Oh sorry, might have had my palm on my face when that scene appeared.

Flawfinder said:
Because Guilty Crown's inconsistencies ARE worse than this show. Complain all you want, but what happens in this show is actually more consistent than people give it credit for. Yuki was always forgiving. The police were always incompetent (Ninth is walking around free for god's sake). And is it really that hard to believe that Yuki's dad realized what he did after he killed somebody?

GC is, and always will be, worse than this show because it never sticks to its own set of rules for more than an episode.

It's not about the consistency, it's the absurd level of stupidity. Both shows have a certain degree of stupidity and I know Guilty Crown breaks its own set rules without explaining anything but the stupidity in Mirai Nikki is beyond tolerable (there's proof in what you have stated). For people with a healthy mind, it is becoming very unhealthy, good thing this is aired weekly because if someone had to watch all of this in a day or two, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a full retard himself.
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Oh my, Yuno's smile when she said she'd be ready to die anytime was so... ooooh. ;A; I love the song in the background from this part.
 
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It's not about the consistency, it's the absurd level of stupidity. Both shows have a certain degree of stupidity and I know Guilty Crown breaks its own set rules without explaining anything but the stupidity in Mirai Nikki is beyond tolerable (there's proof in what you have stated). For people with a healthy mind, it is becoming very unhealthy, good thing this is aired weekly because if someone had to watch all of this in a day or two, I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a full retard himself.


Yeah, I never said that this anime wasn't stupid, but it's definitely NOT inconsistent (or not THAT inconsistent). That was the complaint a bunch of people had. And the reason I tolerate the stupidity is because at least the show knows it's being stupid and just runs with it, ala Code Geass. Also, the show has enough interesting things in it to distract you from the stupidity, as a good pulp story does. For example, not many people bother remembering that Ninth should be in jail because she's so awesome. Plus, the bunny thing and the fact that Yuki actually had the guts to confess to a girl (who looked like his mom) were entertaining enough, even though I agree that the stuff with Yuki and his dad worked better in the manga.

On the whole, Guilty Crown probably doesn't go as stupid as this anime. But it is definitely more inconsistent, and on top of that, I can't remember anything really good in it to distract me from its stupidity. But this isn't the GC thread, so all I'll say is it depends on what people prefer: stupidity or inconsistency. I prefer stupidity, especially when it doesn't actually slow down the story, as honestly, the show seems to be good at incorporating the stupidity into the story's pace pretty well.
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Wasabi said:
My god, this show has some of the worst inconsistencies. And people whine about Guilty Crown being terrible.

So Yukiteru knows that his dad killed mommy dearest and it's totally cool cause y'know, his dad wanted to see the stars one last time and apologized for it. Hell, he even says he has no regrets. I don't fucking know... maybe killing your ex-wife is a regret? No? Oh, okay. And lol at Yukiteru FINALLY doing something on his own. Holy fuck, what a long ass wait that was. Too bad it took him this long to actually start growing a set, he's still a terrible crybaby. If anything, his character evolution is even worse than Shu's.

And really, are the police really this fucking incompetent? Nishijima finds bodies at Yuno's house and he fucking doesn't even arrest her? Instead he's just 'LOL LET'S GO GET SOME COFFEE YUNO WHILE I INQUIRE ABOUT YOUR DEAD PARENTS AND THIS MYSTERY BODY THAT YOU PROCURED'. How much influence does this moron even have to keep so many cops from spilling the beans all over this girl?


Agree. The police, and the show and general now, is really starting to piss me off. It's been pulling shit like this for a while which I haven't really been happy about but this is just too much. It's not like with the cult crap where stuff might have been made complicated (for the police) with all the chaos, they actually have bodies. The result? A casual questioning in a damn coffee shop. Not only they but she's 14 and there just let her run around and do whatever she wants. If she was in the supervision of someone that might be one thing, not that it'd make it that much better, but she isn't. Yukiteru is also alone for that matter and they just let him run around too. Damn.

It's to the point that I'd like this say this is the last straw for me but it's episode 18 already. In a bit too deep to just give up now.

Also with you on Yukiteru and his dad but hell Yukiteru has always been really wishy-washy (he does complete turn a rounds for no solid reason a lot) so I can't really say I'm that surprised. Pretty much expected it. As for his father, guess he got his? The no regrets thing got me, too. He doesn't regret killing her because he kneeled down in front of a picture? Please. This is the same guy that choose himself over his own son (jumping from the tower), though, so I can't say I'm surprised there either.
 
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The only problem in this episode was that I felt the "fight" scene after they killed Yukiteru's dad was more intense in the manga.
 
02-14-12, 7:20 PM

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Let's forgive the guy who killed your mother, right Yukiteru? How dumb.

Am I the only one here happy that Yukiteru's dad was killed? Even if he wasn't responsible, which I still think he is, I never liked him.

Yukiteru said that they know where 8th is? I feel like I missed an important detail that told them where 8th is, but I don't remember hearing it. I remember that they went to 8th's place with a search warrant, but how did they know where to look? I might to re watch those episodes.
 
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