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Feb 12, 2012 10:48 PM
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kisami said:
for those of you who have watched Old HxH and are disappointed with quality aspects of this show. you have to understand that back then....studios still cared about quality. these days...if they can cut a corner, they do that one....and the one next to it.

one kind of has to forget the old HxH and not compare them.


There are certain things that the 2011 version can improve without spending a lot of money and effort

Gon v Hanzo's fight would have a more suspenseful atmosphere by just making the lighting dimmer or the walls darker rather than it being neon white....that isn't difficult, and it does not make the anime any less suitable for kids.

Given that Gon's fight is meant to be partially funny, I give a pass on the neon white room, but from the preview, i cant imagine what Killua's fight is going to be like in a brightly lit room, the atmosphere just ain't right

There are some moments that i thought the 2011 version animated beautifully well (ignoring the OST), namely Gon's night chase of Hisoka, the snake cave and Gon's talk with Kurapika during sunset, which all happened in a darker colour setting.

All they have to do is make the color tone darker and the atmosphere will be there
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Lol, in reading these forums over the months that this has been airing, I've seen a lot of people nitpicking small little details just to make it look bad compared to the original. I'm one of the few fans of the first one that will say that I've enjoyed this remake just as much if not more (mainly due to pacing) than the original.
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A bit anti-climate when announced that only one person will fail the exam but the whole atmosphere throughout the episode was very well done. This episode made me want to watch the original so much.
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the 1999 version is leagues better, i don't even know where to begin.


Begin from wherever you want, you have my attention.
Feb 13, 2012 6:17 AM
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usually, i dont have a problem with the BGM. But in this episode, it has became so terrible.
Doesnt fit the entire atmosphere.
Other than that, it was a decent episode.
Feb 13, 2012 7:40 AM

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jakeisquite said:
Lol, in reading these forums over the months that this has been airing, I've seen a lot of people nitpicking small little details just to make it look bad compared to the original. I'm one of the few fans of the first one that will say that I've enjoyed this remake just as much if not more (mainly due to pacing) than the original.

THANK YOU. Now I know I'm not alone...

As someone who watched the original anime even before reading the manga, I have to say that the team who make the remake is doing a great job, and frankly I like the remake a bit more than the 99 version. I re-watched all ep of 2011 up til now and realized that they are getting better and better! And I also need to say: the person/people who made the storyboards really knows how to draw good expressions for the characters!

To people who complain about the censoring: you already know WHY they have to censor several scenes. And let me ask you this: could YOU have done it better if you were in charge of the censoring?
The director is doing a good job. The censor scenes with Killua in ep 7 and ep 11 are very creative (and shows Killua's brutal/cruel side just fine).

Kisami: "you have to understand that back then....studios still cared about quality. these days...if they can cut a corner, they do that one....and the one next to it."

No offense, but how could you know that? You would have to work (or watch people work) at a studio to know that.

Quality of a show has nothing to do with how old or new it is.

Last, this ep: I liked the remake's version a bit more. Original one was good too, though the animation quality always bothered me. I think MADHOUSE did a fantastic job with it overall. I like how they showed that Killua envies Gon (and it made me feel closer to Killua).

Ps: I'm NOT trying to pick a fight with anyone.
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Hanzo gave up for the greater goods lol
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wow Gon got beat so easily but still got through wonder what will happen next and who won't make it through!
Feb 13, 2012 3:00 PM

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For the people who haven't Seen the old series or the manga, they find hunter x hunter to be enjoyable. Thats some good news in my opinion.

I honestly like the fact that HxH is being animated again and can't wait for it to go passed where the previous series had left off.

The series hasn't even gotten to the best parts yet. All we can do is wait. =]
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Gon was a supper pest in this ep.
Seriously, I wouldn't want to be in Hanzo's shoes; how annoying. :P
Getting KO'd = win could really make life a lot easier, Gon could set a new trend?

Looking forward to the installments to come.;)

Feb 13, 2012 4:43 PM

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Really good episode.
Hope they never change the ending!! XD It's just TOO awesome~!!
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What? Am I the only one who thinks that the ugly BGM fits this time (that scene where Gon kicked Hanzo)? And that's an opinion from someone who prefers the old one.
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That was pretty bad.
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Was killua this whiny before? i don't remember him being like that in the manga or the original one...
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xXDGFXx said:
Was killua this whiny before? i don't remember him being like that in the manga or the original one...


Yes he was. He was actually sasuke-emo in the 1999 version.
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xXDGFXx said:
Was killua this whiny before? i don't remember him being like that in the manga or the original one...


Yes he was. He was actually sasuke-emo in the 1999 version.


Killua was Sasuke-emo during the hunter exam in the 1999 version by acting all dark & quiet, but his action was altered to show concern for Gon's safety by throwing him a bottle of water during the fight and threatening Hanzo that if he killed Gon, he will kill Hanzo. That never occured in the manga. The manga dialogue was exactly the same as the 2011 version.
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Spoiler for those that have not seen old version or read the manga:

Feb 15, 2012 4:48 AM

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This makes you wonder what if Gon was against someone like Hisoka? Hisoka has no problem killing even if it means he has to fight again to pass. Would Gon knowing this be as determine not to surrender?
Hisoka of course might have surrendered if Gon didn't want do because he wants Gon alive to fight him later but that is not something Gon knows.
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The Final Phase was in a brightly lit room in the manga too. If it was supposed to be dark inside, Togashi would have drawn it that way.
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Toto_y_Moi said:
The Final Phase was in a brightly lit room in the manga too. If it was supposed to be dark inside, Togashi would have drawn it that way.


EXACTLY :).
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And!!! Let the Torture Begin!!! >:D
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Does anyone know how much episodes the new series will have?
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Poor Hanzo xD
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Toto_y_Moi said:
The Final Phase was in a brightly lit room in the manga too. If it was supposed to be dark inside, Togashi would have drawn it that way.


It may be so for other mangakas, but not so for Togashi. Togashi's art for Hunter is very simplistic. The manga tends to use pure black and white and hardly any gray, because Togashi needs to stick alot of little dots which he doesn't like to use.

In other words, unless a room/environment is pitch black, it will always be white in the manga. For example, the background of the trick tower duels and the cave were white in the manga, but that doesn't mean they are meant to be brightly lit (and thank goodness they weren't so in the anime). Hence the colour scheme of the hunter world is majorly left to the anime creators, who is responsible for finding the right colors to fit the atmosphere of the story. I just thougt neon white was an inappropriate choice for the final exam room given that people were fighting and being tortured. It doesn't have to be emo dark, but gray or light brown would have been better.
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Honestly I love how the art got better in this episode. I wish every episode from now on will be like this. Well a +1 since I could sense how Hisoka was pissed off because Hanzo kept beating Gon up, that all matters to me.

5/5
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ankifeather said:
Toto_y_Moi said:
The Final Phase was in a brightly lit room in the manga too. If it was supposed to be dark inside, Togashi would have drawn it that way.


It may be so for other mangakas, but not so for Togashi. Togashi's art for Hunter is very simplistic. The manga tends to use pure black and white and hardly any gray, because Togashi needs to stick alot of little dots which he doesn't like to use.

In other words, unless a room/environment is pitch black, it will always be white in the manga. For example, the background of the trick tower duels and the cave were white in the manga, but that doesn't mean they are meant to be brightly lit (and thank goodness they weren't so in the anime). Hence the colour scheme of the hunter world is majorly left to the anime creators, who is responsible for finding the right colors to fit the atmosphere of the story. I just thougt neon white was an inappropriate choice for the final exam room given that people were fighting and being tortured. It doesn't have to be emo dark, but gray or light brown would have been better.


Well there were large windows and it was around 8 am or something, brightly lit is what it should be

Phalrax said:
Does anyone know how much episodes the new series will have?


So far, with this pace (2 chapters per episode) it would be at least 170.
But the manga isn't over so there will probably be much more :D
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x5exotic said:
Phalrax said:
Does anyone know how much episodes the new series will have?


So far, with this pace (2 chapters per episode) it would be at least 170.
But the manga isn't over so there will probably be much more :D

What? You mean with the new arcs, right?


This has to be one of my favorite episodes;
  • Gon kicking Hanzo was just awesome!

    Though it would have been better without the comedy atmosphere, well, I guess that's just how Gon is.

  • The fact Killua wasn't rated as the best one to become a hunter is probably because he takes everything into violence, Gon always think in some other way to resolve things.


    And next episode is already the resume of the fights? Wow, so fast..
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Liinah said:
x5exotic said:
Phalrax said:
Does anyone know how much episodes the new series will have?


So far, with this pace (2 chapters per episode) it would be at least 170.
But the manga isn't over so there will probably be much more :D

What? You mean with the new arcs, right?


This has to be one of my favorite episodes;
  • Gon kicking Hanzo was just awesome!
  • The fact Killua wasn't rated as the best one to become a hunter is probably because he takes everything into violence, Gon always think in some other way to resolve things.


    And next episode is already the resume of the fights? Wow, so fast..


    What do you mean? o.o So far HxH has got about 340 chapters which will be made into 170 (So far HxH just finished the 7th arc) But there will probably be 5-6 more arcs according to the writer




    Also, just don't get too hyped for the fight, it's gonna be TOO fast it might surprise you :P
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What do you mean? o.o So far HxH has got about 340 chapters which will be made into 170 (So far HxH just finished the 7th arc) But there will probably be 5-6 more arcs according to the writer

I was asking if by 170 episodes you mean with Chimera arc and so, not just the chapters from the original anime. And well, we still don't know if the new arcs will be animated, though I hope so.
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I'm not sure what I feel about this episode. It was lighter than the original version (anyone else notice how they didn't show just about all the hits except when Hanzo swiped Gon off his feet, but implied them? clever way to get around showing violence in the timeslot) and almost felt less important.

I don't remember Killua getting so jealous in the original or in the manga and it was a change of pace to see. It makes me wonder how they're going to work back up to the friendship later.
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Liinah said:

  • The fact Killua wasn't rated as the best one to become a hunter is probably because he takes everything into violence, Gon always think in some other way to resolve things.



  • It's probaly more to do with Killua's lack of interest rather than violence since Hisoka is more violent yet rated highly by Netero. Killua must have left a bad overall impression for giving up Netero's ball game and his answer to the "why do you want to be a hunter" interview question is more than likely the same as what he told Gon ie "I don't want to be a hunter, I just came for fun".
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    Average. Since I already read the manga I know exactly what was going to happen. The music could be better but not bad.
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    It's funny how people now totally forget that there is more blood in this episode and whine about the off screen beating at which the 1999 didn't do a good job either, which shows that some people just have the need to bitch about something..


    Liinah said:
    x5exotic said:
    What do you mean? o.o So far HxH has got about 340 chapters which will be made into 170 (So far HxH just finished the 7th arc) But there will probably be 5-6 more arcs according to the writer

    I was asking if by 170 episodes you mean with Chimera arc and so, not just the chapters from the original anime. And well, we still don't know if the new arcs will be animated, though I hope so.

    I mean Chimera arc and up till the election :D
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    Still doing pretty good so far.
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    Gon = love. dsjfudfhygdyfgygfdgd;;
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    :D Pleased! I'm glad they did this well... wasn't as painful to watch as the original, but it did still shake me a bit. It was sort of annoying around the start of the fight where they just seemed to switch to outside the room or someone else's face at every hit, but I'm glad they did actually include Gon's arm being broken. Some nice blood smudges on the floor and blood trickling down Gon's face... at least they're not avoiding it completely, eh?

    This is probably the first time I noticed the background music being really displaced though XD. Oh well.

    Really happy with this. owo
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    To the people who refer the 99 ver to be "the original".
    Fuck you all.
    Do you even read the real "origainal" manga?

    This 2011 ver is reviving the lighter sides a HxH that the 99 ver left out.
    Thats why I appriciate it.
    If you want your dark atmospheric HxH, go watch that and never come back.
    I got pissed looking at emo grownups comments after 20eps.
    Drop it already!
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    Hanzo is one of the underrated characters of this arc.
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    Hanzo got ninja'd.
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    Great episode. Despite the obvious censoring with the jumps to other characters faces, the "fight" still felt very brutal. Loved the interplay between Gon and Hanzo as well. Particularly liked how pissed off Kurapika and Leorio were, and the fact that Killua was more jealous than anything speaks volumes.

    Also, someone said Killua actually attempted to defend Gon somewhat in the previous adaptation and I remember something like that myself. If that's the case then that adds a completely different feel to his character. I prefer the way the 2011 anime has handled it, plus it's great foreshadowing for future events.
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    I don't like Hanzo. *lol*
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    I always hated this fight and this is the fight that made me hate Gon too.

    I'm not for children abuse and violence but here I was seriously rooting for Hanzo. There is a thin line between having strong will and being a total idiot.
    Gon crossed that line and became a selfish idiot. If Hanzo were to break all his bones and surrender then, it would leave Gon in horrible state. He would most likely pass the exam since he still would not give up but what's next? Bones heal but if each one of them was broken, there is no way they would heal properly. What would he do with a dis functioned body?! All his Hunter dreams would end right there! SO STUPID! I hate characters who don't think about future and consider giving up as a weakness! If you die, you can't do anything anymore. However, if you surrender you still can come back and achieve more including glory!

    What totally destroyed Gon for me was when he started to demand from Hanzo a different match when the guy was nice enough to let him win! How selfish can you be?! Gon's ego needs to be crushed and as fast as possible. He is turning too much into Mary Sue!
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    kitten320 said:
    I always hated this fight and this is the fight that made me hate Gon too.

    I'm not for children abuse and violence but here I was seriously rooting for Hanzo. There is a thin line between having strong will and being a total idiot.
    Gon crossed that line and became a selfish idiot. If Hanzo were to break all his bones and surrender then, it would leave Gon in horrible state. He would most likely pass the exam since he still would not give up but what's next? Bones heal but if each one of them was broken, there is no way they would heal properly. What would he do with a dis functioned body?! All his Hunter dreams would end right there! SO STUPID! I hate characters who don't think about future and consider giving up as a weakness! If you die, you can't do anything anymore. However, if you surrender you still can come back and achieve more including glory!

    What totally destroyed Gon for me was when he started to demand from Hanzo a different match when the guy was nice enough to let him win! How selfish can you be?! Gon's ego needs to be crushed and as fast as possible. He is turning too much into Mary Sue!


    Thats exactly what togashi wants you to believe...Throughout the whole series this mindset that gon has makes him who he is. The later arcs will show you how much this type of personallity will do to him...Also he's still 12...A lot of 12 year olds can't think through things sometimes.. lol
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    kitten320 said:
    I always hated this fight and this is the fight that made me hate Gon too.

    I'm not for children abuse and violence but here I was seriously rooting for Hanzo. There is a thin line between having strong will and being a total idiot.
    Gon crossed that line and became a selfish idiot. If Hanzo were to break all his bones and surrender then, it would leave Gon in horrible state. He would most likely pass the exam since he still would not give up but what's next? Bones heal but if each one of them was broken, there is no way they would heal properly. What would he do with a dis functioned body?! All his Hunter dreams would end right there! SO STUPID! I hate characters who don't think about future and consider giving up as a weakness! If you die, you can't do anything anymore. However, if you surrender you still can come back and achieve more including glory!

    What totally destroyed Gon for me was when he started to demand from Hanzo a different match when the guy was nice enough to let him win! How selfish can you be?! Gon's ego needs to be crushed and as fast as possible. He is turning too much into Mary Sue!


    It's fun how what makes one person hate a character can make another person love that same character. -w-
    But I don't think Gon thinks giving up is a weakness per say. Just kind of inconvenient (in a way) at the time to do so. Plus, as you said, he's too stubborn. (but I do wonder about how close to the truth his hunch concerning Ging was...)
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    I saw old series and Gon didn't really change much in Greed Island arc. Still dumb and suborn as always and what is worse is that he never has to pay for it.

    In real life things would end tragically.

    I know it is manga but manga is meant to inspire people and give example to follow. Gon is worst inspirational candidate especially for children.
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    kitten320 said:
    I saw old series and Gon didn't really change much in Greed Island arc. Still dumb and suborn as always and what is worse is that he never has to pay for it.

    In real life things would end tragically.

    I know it is manga but manga is meant to inspire people and give example to follow. Gon is worst inspirational candidate especially for children.

    If you read the manga you'd realize he was never meant to be an example to children :P
    It would have ended tragically if Gon didn't win Hanzo over, but he did
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    kitten320 said:
    I saw old series and Gon didn't really change much in Greed Island arc. Still dumb and suborn as always and what is worse is that he never has to pay for it.

    In real life things would end tragically.

    I know it is manga but manga is meant to inspire people and give example to follow. Gon is worst inspirational candidate especially for children.

    I'm pretty sure not everything in manga is meant to be some sort of perfect role model... I would probably find it extremely boring if that were true.
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    I know shounen shows like to brandish the "strong determination" flag but this episode was just stupid. Gon gets completely disabled by the first attack and yet he stubbornly moronically refuses to give up. Am I meant to feel "wow, his will is so strong"? Hell no. He should have recognised that he had no options remaining and gracefully accepted his loss. But no. He'll just keep blabbing about not giving up like that'll somehow fix his current predicament.

    And was I meant to empathise with Kurapika and Leorio over their growing anger? Gon brought the whole situation on himself for being an retard. Wtf was Hanzo meant to do? In fact, Hanzo came off as a really nice character to me. He clearly explained Gon's current situation to him and everything and Gon just vomitted it all right back.

    The only thing realistic about this episode is how nice guys lose :P

    Don't know if I can pull myself through anymore episodes. If Gon shows this sort of shit again, I sure as hell am gonna drop it.
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    ^I'm pretty sure Gon does something similar at least once more (the one I'm thinking of is in the early 20s I think..)
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    @quanticism, but he wants to win in his own way >.<

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