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02-07-12, 10:10 AM

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I really hope the faking death is the correct theory here, because even if (well unless your immortal) you know the MC is gonna die one day they shouldn't end it with his death... my only sliver lining that the theory of fake death has merit is that when she looked him up it said his "location" was unknown, but it did show him grow so its possible he really wasn't immortal, so if that was the case do you think he was killed? supposing he truly did die, because he died way before Ayaka did, he could have had some disease or worked himself to death, well we will see i suppose, hopefully he fixes this in 3 chapters because this really isn't what i wanted for the ending at all.
 
02-07-12, 11:12 AM

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sunlightheart said:
Cried? No. Felt like punching Ken Akamatsu in the face? Yes. Still might depending on how horrible the final three chapters are. Because flying to Japan to punch a mangaka is the best way to explain what he or she has done wrong.

^EXACTLY!

Was I supposed to feel like crying after a FORCED emotional scene?

If anyone read Negima's first 3 Volumes and then came to this chapter they would have a million questions....unfortunately for them most of those questions have still not been answered!!!

I'm not gonna lie, I came here to rant, but I think this chapter shows for itself how retarded this series is ending.

Thank you Ken....for ruining a once great manga.
 
02-07-12, 11:18 AM

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Sad chapter everyone is dead >_< well everyone isn't like Eva....

I hope he's trolling us that Negi is dead but then again I highly doubt it.
 
02-07-12, 12:45 PM

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ichigo03 said:

If anyone read Negima's first 3 Volumes and then came to this chapter they would have a million questions....unfortunately for them most of those questions have still not been answered!!!

I'm not gonna lie, I came here to rant, but I think this chapter shows for itself how retarded this series is ending.

Thank you Ken....for ruining a once great manga.


does this mean that it will be a forced ending of Negima( for example the series isn't selling well and the mangaka needs to end it?)

If i remember correctly Negima sells were on a ok level
 
02-07-12, 12:51 PM

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Senzu15 said:
does this mean that it will be a forced ending of Negima( for example the series isn't selling well and the mangaka needs to end it?)

If i remember correctly Negima sells were on a ok level

That's an interesting question you have brought up.

Yes, Negima has pretty good sales. It's not as good as the "big 3" but it's still better than most other manga.

I don't believe Negima is being "Cancelled". So the only option I can come up with is that Ken doesn't know what to do with Negima.

IMHO, it's probably better just to end it, rather than drag it out like the "big 3".
 
02-07-12, 3:42 PM

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argh that was sad... atleast she got to see a familiar face at the end. 3 more chapters till the conclusion made me even sadder. Hopefully its a good ending.
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02-07-12, 3:50 PM

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Well Rakan called it back on ch249 after all

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02-07-12, 3:59 PM

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game8910 said:
Well Rakan called it back on ch249 after all

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/e9ZIN.jpg" />


Lol that's funny.

I think we'll all have to wait and see what happens. This was an extremely abrupt announcement so it could mean any number of things. I haven't seen the movie yet, but from my understanding it was a disappointment. I also know that the anime series were a complete flop.

Perhaps now that the manga is complete there will be a devoted anime series to it. That would be well worth it in my opinion.
 
02-07-12, 7:23 PM

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Admit it.
Shut up and admit it.
You cried with this chapter. You cried like little bitches.

I didn't cry, but I felt something deep inside curl up into a ball.

Also, only 3 more chapters?
I guess even Akamatsu-san can't fight the ravages of low sales =/
 
02-07-12, 7:35 PM

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ichigo03 said:
sunlightheart said:
Cried? No. Felt like punching Ken Akamatsu in the face? Yes. Still might depending on how horrible the final three chapters are. Because flying to Japan to punch a mangaka is the best way to explain what he or she has done wrong.

^EXACTLY!

Was I supposed to feel like crying after a FORCED emotional scene?

If anyone read Negima's first 3 Volumes and then came to this chapter they would have a million questions....unfortunately for them most of those questions have still not been answered!!!

I'm not gonna lie, I came here to rant, but I think this chapter shows for itself how retarded this series is ending.

Thank you Ken....for ruining a once great manga.


Rather than seeing it as a end I like better to see it like a ground to build something on.
My point is that Negi's whereabout are unknown, that's not what happen when you are dead. The most probable explanation to that is that Negi was MIA/disapeared like his father once did.
From there on it isn't hard to see a connection between Negi and Nagi which would make futur plot evolve in this way so that we get a full picture of what happened.

Chao used time travel to go in mahora but who invented that time travel? Suddenly we got someone which whereabout about are unknown, suposely a genius and the only one to have experienced time travel himself.
I could well see Negi leaving this era to look for his father which in return could lead to the world Chao came from which would in return lead to Chao going to the past to change things.

MSN sale are more than ok, normally an editor wouldn't allow it to end and I don't think that Ken got the special treatment. That's one of the major reason why I think that Ken will be working on a sequel manga after this.
 
02-07-12, 8:09 PM

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I don't really think three chapter will be enough to wrap up all the mess that is the ending of Magic world arc all the way to this chapter.
 
02-07-12, 9:23 PM

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game8910 said:
Well Rakan called it back on ch249 after all

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/e9ZIN.jpg" />


Wow totally didn't remember that at all, makes it more depressing tho, it seems like the chance of his death being faked is getting slim.
 
02-08-12, 10:42 AM

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game8910 said:
Well Rakan called it back on ch249 after all

<img src="http://i.imgur.com/e9ZIN.jpg" />

I wonder if it could also be an indication that Negi was a false protagonist?
 
02-08-12, 1:25 PM

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i just want to see the ending already....iǘe been reading this thing for 5 years....just let it end, it was good enough
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02-08-12, 4:29 PM

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This isn't answering anything at all!!!!

First of all isn't there that mystery of the world tree that still kinda needs explaining
Second they clearly said Negi was gonna be stuck as a ten year old forever (my guess on that is those aging pills to falsify his age so people wouldn't be suspicious)
Thirdly the mystery of why his father is the mage of the beginning and how is that linked to Eva?

I think those are the three most important things that need answering

btw i think the first might have been partially explained but I'm still wondering why Al (or whatever his name was) was also trapped there and the dragon and the book etc.
 
02-08-12, 6:14 PM

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I'm just putting my two cents in, but I don't think there will be a spinoff. I'm sure after nine years he is probably ready to move on, and I also figure that he has planned this ending out at the very least a good year ahead of time (I'm doubtful he would have named the movie "Negima Anime Final" if he planned on another one or more arcs). All things must end, and in reality there would have been plenty of complaining about it being too soon whether it was now or two years from now.
 
02-08-12, 7:00 PM

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mateon said:

First of all isn't there that mystery of the world tree that still kinda needs explaining


What mystery was there about the world tree?
I don't recall exactly why but it was said. The tree is a place where magical energy focus naturally.
Since there was so much magical energy here it's why the mage of the beginning and Nagi were sealed here.

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Second they clearly said Negi was gonna be stuck as a ten year old forever (my guess on that is those aging pills to falsify his age so people wouldn't be suspicious)

Before this chapter it was said that Negi's body became closer to Eva's but that he wasn't a daywalker.
It was never said that he'll be immortal for sure, ithey even said that they'll have to wait to see if Negi will continue to age or not.
This chapter didn't solved much, the only thing we saw about Negi in the future was a photo that was taken like 10 years after Asuna was sealed (the one with chachamaru and iinchou) which doesn't mean that he aged (because he could have taken magic pills) but also doesn't mean that he did take them.
Either Negi hit the bucket because of his age, either he died/got killed for whatever reason or either he is not dead.

Negi's whereabout are unknown, if he was dead then the record would have told Asuna that much. It is probable that he is missing in action or just disapeared like his father once did (maybe a select few known about it).

Also the magic world and the real world were linked/merged. It's not a transition that have been done in one day and most of the year probably went for this said transition.
I do not think that if Negi stopped aging that he would have to fake his age anyway.


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Thirdly the mystery of why his father is the mage of the beginning and how is that linked to Eva?


Again this was said and implied enough for you to come with the answer yourself but I agree that a flashback wouldn't have hurt.

It was stated that the second time Nagi's group encountered the mage of beginning that they managed to defeat him/her at the cost of the life of a hero.
At first people though that it was Albiero since he kind of 'bounded his soul' to the school ground in order to maintain the seal.
It's quite easy to see a line where Nagi had to seal the mage of the beginning inside himself and then Albiero sealed Nagi while he still had control over his body.

As for Eva, the mage of the beginning was the one that turned her into a daywalker. They could develop more of it or leave it at that but the link between the two have been confirmed for a while already.
Of course this could serve as futur material but it's not a necessarity to elaborate on if it's going to end anyway.

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I'm just putting my two cents in, but I don't think there will be a spinoff. I'm sure after nine years he is probably ready to move on, and I also figure that he has planned this ending out at the very least a good year ahead of time (I'm doubtful he would have named the movie "Negima Anime Final" if he planned on another one or more arcs). All things must end, and in reality there would have been plenty of complaining about it being too soon whether it was now or two years from now.


Well, I can't say for sure but I can say that the chance are pretty good for a sequel manga.
-Unanswered question, rather this chapter posed more question than anything.
-Ground being set for futur development.
-Good selling manga aren't allowed to end, this is a sad but harsh truth. Negima didn't drop much in ranking so it finishing seem kind of off, especially being this sudden. For a mangaka to be able to finish one of his succesfull work he must have something that will compensate for it.
If it's a new manga then it must be very impressive for jump to have accepted his request to end one popular serie and then I wouldn't mind but the most possible outcome imo is a sequel manga that will ride the hype easier and will assure money for Jump.
 
02-08-12, 7:33 PM

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mateon said:

Second they clearly said in theory Negi was probably gonna be stuck as a ten year old forever

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02-09-12, 12:31 AM

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Gangler said:
mateon said:

Second they clearly said in theory Negi was probably gonna be stuck as a ten year old forever

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Still lame the way they did it though if the scenario stays the same; you go from possibly/probably being immortal to dying before the final chapter...
 
02-09-12, 9:46 AM

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Fact. Just because it's not self-contradictory doesn't mean it was done well.
 
02-09-12, 3:06 PM

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Does this mean no Negi/Asuna ending? Because I would LOVE it if there isn't a Negi/Asuna ending.
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02-09-12, 3:48 PM

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I just...

When I saw Chao, I immediately though "...Oh shit, that's not Chao's chaotic future, right?". Because, Goddammit. Asuna, Eva and Chao in a sequel? IT WOULD BE AMAZING AS HELL. JUST SAYIN'.

But it was such a sad chapter! I miss the 3-A already... Iinchou... Chisame... Setsuna... ;_;
And where the hell is Chachamaru? ;_;

I still need to calm myself, but this chapter was... UNF. I JUST CAN'T.
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02-09-12, 5:40 PM

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Does this mean no Negi/Asuna ending? Because I would LOVE it if there isn't a Negi/Asuna ending.

I think we can all assume that Negi never copulated with the sleeping beauty. Not sure why you'd even ask that.
 
02-11-12, 12:12 PM

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I dunno. Personally as shocked as i was it liked it. However, since i haven't bothered to look at the chapter threads i didn't know it was ending in 3 chapters....
 
02-12-12, 2:25 AM

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I don't think he died for real (shocks). Has probably something to do with his dad's case.
In the off-chance he really died for real, that would suck. ALOT.

And Chao being there isn't so surprising either. She just probably jumped into the future and got there O_o

All in all, it was a solemn chapter. Meh.

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also, in before reverse time traveling Asuna.

Sounds like a good call, considering the appearance of Chao, but if that happened, then wouldn't she have met the class rep and cause her to never need to write that letter in 2090?
Well, that's assuming she doesn't go and break time.

Not really. The current timeline would simply get re-written. Please don't bring "Time Paradoxes" shit here. It doesn't happen in this canon. Just take the current timeline. It's different from Chao's original version. And the universe didn't break.

PS: I doubt that's what's gonna happen in these last three chapters anyway though.
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02-13-12, 8:43 AM

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Except for the part where Chao failed to change the thing she wanted to change. Magic was still revealed to the general public. She never lost her reason for going back in time so there never would've been a paradox in the first place. There's nothing to conclusively say that time-paradoxes cannot occur in Negima. They simply didn't become an issue in the single recorded attempt at time travel.
 
02-13-12, 8:57 AM

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You know, I was expecting Chao to be further down the line of Negi's ancestor...
 
02-13-12, 8:27 PM

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Why does it feel so rushed? I know that its ending soon but a scene that was suppose to be emotional left me nothing. I didn't cry. I wasn't mad. It left me confused.
 
02-13-12, 8:44 PM

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So, who did Negi choose exactly?
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02-14-12, 6:27 AM

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You seem to forgot the most important thing, people... NEGI'S FATHER. Seriously! So we are to believe Negi died without finding him? I know it's a minor subplot that's been going on only since THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES and was mentioned in just all of the chapters but still - wouldn't it be nice to see it resolved?

But all in all - this series is very very bad. Leaving aside the protagonist's age - totally not matching either the "saving the world" part or the "girls drooling all over him" part - there are too many things unexplained, like the whole Negi's plan to save the magic world (meaning: all the latest chapters) and the changes from superdrama to silly ecchi harem comedy (again, the guy's too little, it's literally disgusting) are just to sudden and unreasonable.

My guess - Asuna will meet with Negi somehow after all. The author shouldn't have much trouble with him being dead, I mean stupid readers have already bought much more of the stupid, nonsensical "magic needs no explanation" sh*t, right? Also we'll learn Negi met with his father at last - though since there are three chapters left, don't hope for a good explanation where he was and what he was doing all this time.

Have I mentioned this series is stupid and makes no sense?
 
02-14-12, 10:05 AM

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You seem to forgot the most important thing, people... NEGI'S FATHER. Seriously! So we are to believe Negi died without finding him? I know it's a minor subplot that's been going on only since THE BEGINNING OF THE SERIES and was mentioned in just all of the chapters but still - wouldn't it be nice to see it resolved?

But all in all - this series is very very bad. Leaving aside the protagonist's age - totally not matching either the "saving the world" part or the "girls drooling all over him" part - there are too many things unexplained, like the whole Negi's plan to save the magic world (meaning: all the latest chapters) and the changes from superdrama to silly ecchi harem comedy (again, the guy's too little, it's literally disgusting) are just to sudden and unreasonable.

My guess - Asuna will meet with Negi somehow after all. The author shouldn't have much trouble with him being dead, I mean stupid readers have already bought much more of the stupid, nonsensical "magic needs no explanation" sh*t, right? Also we'll learn Negi met with his father at last - though since there are three chapters left, don't hope for a good explanation where he was and what he was doing all this time.

Have I mentioned this series is stupid and makes no sense?


I would take the time to write an elaborate answer about all of these point but it seem like we didn't read the same negima.
Seriously you are the prime exemple of someone that barely read and just skim through the image.
 
02-16-12, 4:43 AM

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isn't Chao supposed to be Negi's descendant? then doesn't that mean that Negi-bozu had a children?

if this ends up in Asuna time traveling back then I'm going to be very disappointed.
 
02-16-12, 1:47 PM

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negi fucked all of his students, just to have the chance of born Chao, but later is discovered and send to the jail, where he dies or fake his die.

or maybe he never dies, and never gets older (remember the pils to look older), but who is the grand-grand-grand-mother of chao?

i really dont wanna a travel to the past Asuna.
 
02-19-12, 2:19 AM

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I CAN'T ACCEPT IT how can negi be dead, wasn't he supposed to be immortal.Well adding the huge time skip and the fact that all ends in 3 chapters I don't think we can expect much since there many holes to cover.
 
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