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02-06-12, 1:03 PM

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I think I'd be disappointed if the ghost wasn't someone we've already gotten clips of so far. When Mei was telling Kouichi everything, they showed little snips of characters who the dead person may or may not be, and, there were a few I didn't really recognize.
I want to be able to say "I did NOT see that coming!" when it's finally revealed. At the same time I want it to be someone we saw at the very beginning and had a speaking part.
Now that I think about it, it makes me wonder about the one line from Tomohiko to Teshigawara, where he said "I know more about you than you think" (or something to that effect) .. Maybe he knows more about the extra person than we think he does? Who knows, this is getting so good!
 
02-06-12, 1:11 PM

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I expect that they will now start to look for the dead person (I suspect the male teacher - he teaches like a Zombie XD)


I LOL-ed at that xD
 
02-06-12, 1:15 PM

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Still, the phenomenon will continue. Sakakibara didn't ignore Misaki and started the phenomenon. Now the rest of Class 3 is ignoring Sakakibara and Misaki. But Sakakibara and Misaki is still in Class 3 so as long as they don't ignore each other the phenomenon will not stop. Am I right? I wonder who's the "dead" person..
 
02-06-12, 1:17 PM

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When he met with Misaki in the basement... I found that moment feckin heartwarming. I also have my suspicions that the protagonist himself is the dead person.
 
02-06-12, 1:22 PM

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I wonder who's the "dead" person..


Dun, dun, duuuuuuuuuun... Sakakibara.

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02-06-12, 1:22 PM

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This episode mainly served as infodump, however, not one minute felt dull even disregarding the fatality due to the great direction of this show. There are still a few questions open but I'm confident they will get answered in the next few episodes.

It's unfortunate that Kouichi was eventually the one who caused this string of events but his behaviour is understandable. One of the most assertive human traits is curiosity after all and to be honest who wouldn't have acted the same way as he did.

I wouldn't exclude a non-supernatural reason for the happenings at this moment, though, no matter how unlikely it sounds. There's a possibility that the elevator last episode could have been rigged by some people.

Without regard to this speculation now the main goal will probably be to find the "extra" student. To achieve this it's probably the best that Kouichi receives the same treatment like Mei, he has at least one person now who he can speak about this issue directly. In retrospect it's kinda obvious that studio M is Mei's home which is pretty stylish for that matter.

^You, sir or madam, have absolutely taken the words right from my text; there wasn't a single word that you had written that I could agree with more~

I really loved this episode, and--to be honest--I wasn't expecting such a game-changing move from this show; it's always instances like this that I love--the unexpected turning point of awesome~
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02-06-12, 1:37 PM

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Takabayashi's death wasn't too gory, but creepy nonetheless. And I felt really bad for him too :/

So. We know there's a direct correlation with people telling Sakakibara about the curse. However, Sakakibara now understands the curse so I'm confused.

I was right about how they "treat the student like they don't exist". And that Mei really does exist. So I'm happy :)

Off to some pleasant Natsume Yuujinchou Shi! xD

4/5 - Lots of information, but I'm losing the excitement I had earlier for the show. Basically the pace is slowing down.

But like others, I'm thinking Sakakibara is the dead person too, especially when they mentioned that the victim doesn't know it themselves. It could either go two ways: Sakakibara goes really crazy questioning his own existence and identity as he gets more clues that he was someone who died from the past; or that he does not develop psychological trauma.... idk. There's probably a lot of other possibilities, but I'd enjoy the show if Sakakibara was going crazy like that :)
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We never did anything wrong. Just...time has passed and changed it all. Promises to tears. Vows to wounds. A dear person...into a wonderful memory inside the eternity.
 
02-06-12, 1:42 PM

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This was like a cool-down episode from the two previous deaths -- which is good. At least, now we have a gist of what's happening.

So...to strike a balance huh...Hmmm But, with the new countermeasure, I doubt it would stop. Once triggered, curses don't end so easily. Hmmm which means that if they found the "extra" or "dead" person...it would stop? Would they have...to "kill" the dead person again?

Hmmm which reminds me...as much as the rest of the class is a suspect as a dead person, so is Sakakibara. I believe Akazawa has said enough about seeing him before, but she couldn't remember.Could he have not gone out of Yomiyama in the first place? If the dead person has memories...altered...so was the others, right? I mean how else would they be convinced that he or she "still exists" after all?

Hmmm...so that's how it is. ^^ I do think the causality was well-done. Humans make mistakes, and it's always a problem as to how to cope up with it. And only after you'd made the mistake would you usually see what you "should have" done -- which is hindsight. I think...confusion is one of the factors for such a mistake; they didn't know how to deal with a transfer student who doesn't know the curse beforehand. Confusion...hesitation...skepticism...It's not easy to decide when you're really immersed in the situation.

As observers...we can only try to analyze...and hopefully empathize...

Sigh...

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02-06-12, 1:43 PM

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Something tells me Sakakibara's mom has something to do with it.
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02-06-12, 2:28 PM

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Personally, I'd have a shit-ton of fun being the nonexistent. Treat me like I don't exist? Alright. Bring a BB-gun to school, and shoot sensei while he's trying to read to us. See when he snaps, trolol. Or just get up in the middle of class and scribble shit on the board, or even better, people's faces. And how about going into the girl's locker room while they're changing for PE? Priceless. You can go up into the cubbies and just start throwing everyone's stuff on the ground, I mean, what will they do? They have to ignore you, right? You can snatch food of their hands and they can't fight back, lol.

Man, you can be a total asshole and they can't do anything, until they try to kill you of course. This probably isn't even a real curse.
 
02-06-12, 2:28 PM

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So... Because 26 years ago class 3 acted like a dead girl was alive they invited the death in their class. But because of that there is always 1 extra classmate that doesn't know he/she is dead. The dead classmate is drawing his/hers classmates closer to death. They solve this problem by acting like 1 classmate doesn't exist. That way the numbers will be normal again. But when someone of class 3 recolonized the student marked as non existing as existing people will start dying.


That seems to be the case.
It'll be interesting to see if that pattern continues. If Sakakibara is indeed the "dead person" as many members have speculated, then I'm assuming that the curse will continue since their ignoring a "dead person" instead of a living one.
 
02-06-12, 2:29 PM

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Finally some answers!
Mei DOES EXIST.

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02-06-12, 2:32 PM

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Personally, I'd have a shit-ton of fun being the nonexistent. Treat me like I don't exist? Alright. Bring a BB-gun to school, and shoot sensei while he's trying to read to us. See when he snaps, trolol. Or just get up in the middle of class and scribble shit on the board, or even better, people's faces. And how about going into the girl's locker room while they're changing for PE? Priceless. You can go up into the cubbies and just start throwing everyone's stuff on the ground, I mean, what will they do? They have to ignore you, right? You can snatch food of their hands and they can't fight back, lol.

Man, you can be a total asshole and they can't do anything, until they try to kill you of course. This probably isn't even a real curse.


You have redeemed part of the show for me, good sir. Still a 'Meh' for me in the manner of acting of the MC and mayyybbeee for the class/school (still have to deduce on that). I suspect I'm only watching this show now for Mei. And Lovecraft. Yep.
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02-06-12, 2:34 PM

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There are a lot of suspicions that point to Sakakibara being the one that is dead and doesn't know it, like how Akazawa was questioning him in the beginning about whether or not he had been here before and such. But honestly, that would be WAY too cliche, and pull a total "sixth sense" rip off. So while it does seem likely, I really hope it isn't, because the whole "thing you're looking for is actually the main character himself" has become so overused...
 
02-06-12, 2:34 PM

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So Mei exists, I really thought that nobody could see her in fact, it would be more interesting that in part but this version is also good as well, I'm guessing that Sakakibara is the dead person and that his mother has also something to do with the story, it would make sense this way
 
02-06-12, 2:35 PM

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I have a theory:

The person who doesn't belong might be somebody whom never had any immediate family members or relatives from a previous Class 3.

It's just a hunch, but it would make sense being that the person they're looking for is someone who "doesn't belong," and nearly everyone in the current class (including Sakakibara) has made it abundantly clear that they have family ties to the classroom~
 
02-06-12, 2:36 PM

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Poor Sakakibara... I don't think he's dead :(

 
02-06-12, 2:39 PM

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There's only one explanation for Takabayashi's death. KIRA.

..

Anywho, im starting to think that Kouichi might be the dead guy...
 
02-06-12, 2:53 PM

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I hope that red head girl with the pigtails dies next! -___-

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02-06-12, 2:56 PM

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It's probable it's not Sakakibara too. It could be a great misleading by the author, and I love it when they do that...make you suspect someone so much...and then it's not him/her after all.

And it's when all the subtle hints are explained that sometimes justifies if it's really good mystery. I want to time-leap to next Monday already...

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02-06-12, 3:03 PM

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From what Mei said (if you believe her), other people can interact with the dead person. That means that no one is above suspicion. That said, it's probably the protagonist because that's the kind of dumb M. Night Shyamalan twist that writers like to do to make themselves feel clever.
 
02-06-12, 3:05 PM

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So Sakakibara is not existing anymore...
In that situation I would go straight for the girls locker room and see how non existent I am xP
 
02-06-12, 3:09 PM

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Wow, this is so good yet so confusing. This anime makes me think a lot. Heart attack death, a good change from the usual bloody death. This is making sense now, so someone amongst the class is dead? And Kouichi shouldn't have talked to Mei, everyone would've probably still been alive! More of my questions have been answered but I can't wait until next episode to clear things up.
As it turns out, living was a punishment...
 
02-06-12, 3:10 PM

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a change of format, i think this is a good thing, and now we know what is happening, i think i am going to end up liking this anime a lot
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02-06-12, 3:12 PM

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There's only one explanation for Takabayashi's death. KIRA!


I KNEW IT!!!!

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02-06-12, 3:16 PM

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So explaination time has come, we got to know the main premise behing that village story and know why students' behaved like they did all the time. All along i expected Misaki to actually be a ghost of some sort, as cliche as that'd be. This suprised me, positively. Can't wait to see next devopments, what's causing the dead student to be alive and is all Misaki said true?
Also, assuming the dead student theory is actually true, i'm willing to bet that it's either that Izumi girl or Misaki.

I wonder how do they plan to let Sakakibara graduate school now? Assuming he'll graduate as a given without doing anything - i'd like to not exist in school myself, it would be fucking awesome.
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02-06-12, 3:17 PM

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Sir_Lexa said:
PhantomEX said:
There's only one explanation for Takabayashi's death. KIRA!


I KNEW IT!!!!


I so called it. Damn I'm genre savvy.

Ranma-Kun said:
In that situation I would go straight for the girls locker room and see how non existent I am


*steals pantsu and skirt* "I am clearly nonexistent and therefore a figment of your imagination. Pay me no heed as I put your pantsu over my head and rub my face all over your skirt."

Just as keikaku.
 
02-06-12, 3:26 PM

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This episode has been packed with revelations.

- Misaki Mei does exist. (I still have doubts about it, since there is a scene she is covered by the student)
- Kouichi's mom is somehow related to the curse of 3-C.
- The "dead person" who was exiled (ignored) who didn't get a desk and chair is the cause of the curse. And to counter it, someone must be ignored in the class for a whole year.

I have been waiting for this. Finally. Someone manned up to speak the truth for Kouichi. Takabayashi, I have been waiting. But his manning up lead to that freakin' heart attack before he could even speak. Damn.

All the characters that I liked so far have died. Hmm... who should I like next?

From the preview, looks like Kouichi and Mei will have a deep relationship! (ooh romance) They can only have each other since they were "exiled".

I am guessing the person who will die next is the blond guy Teshigawara or Mochizuki (the guy with Takabayashi) since they spoke to Kouichi. The police detectives who interview Kouichi won't die since they are not related to the school and just background characters. Kouichi's male teacher might die too.

I know that the librarian and Akazawa (the red head chairman) spoke to him as well... but I think Akazawa is the leader and she won't die that fast, and the librarian is the "wise" guy. I don't think he will die.
 
02-06-12, 3:35 PM

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Personally, I'd have a shit-ton of fun being the nonexistent. Treat me like I don't exist? Alright. Bring a BB-gun to school, and shoot sensei while he's trying to read to us. See when he snaps, trolol. Or just get up in the middle of class and scribble shit on the board, or even better, people's faces. And how about going into the girl's locker room while they're changing for PE? Priceless. You can go up into the cubbies and just start throwing everyone's stuff on the ground, I mean, what will they do? They have to ignore you, right? You can snatch food of their hands and they can't fight back, lol.

Man, you can be a total asshole and they can't do anything, until they try to kill you of course. This probably isn't even a real curse.

I had trouble paying attention to the second half of the episode, because I was too busy thinking about how entertaining it would be to 'not exist'. Personally, I would want to try playing games loudly during class. And stealing everyone's food. Or be as irritating as possible to make people snap- it's a shame about the part where people would die if they did, though. xP
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02-06-12, 3:53 PM

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damnn finally we know what happened. I have no idea who is the "dead" person but i suspect Kouichi and Akazawa.

I don't get why people hating on Akazawa. She just wants to live like others.

Gotta love this show
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02-06-12, 4:00 PM

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I can't stop loving this show! glad this epsiode wasn't as brutal as the last few didn't mean it wasn't suspenseful and it felt like was a big Info dump,too bad for Takabayashi he should have listened to the rules.

it was pretty surprising to know mei exist and that both her and Kouichi don't exist to the class anymore,but to be honest i didn't exist i could just think of al the crazy stuff i would do best school life ever hell you wouldn't even need to go to school lol mei tends to skip alot when ever she feels like it.


but i wonder where this is going will they try and prevent the deaths or will they continue to let them happen would be crazy if a *another* transfer student joined too.
 
02-06-12, 4:07 PM

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I didn't understand one thing, can someone explain to me?

If the other students only need to ignore one student, pretending he/she doesn't exist, why ignore Sakakibara now? They are already ignoring Misaka, so...they are ignoring two students now?

Well. I hope Sakakibara isn't the dead person, making the protagonist the "culprit" is becoming so common that it's almost a cliché. I want to be someone very random, that I wouldn't notice normaly.
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02-06-12, 4:13 PM

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Such a great episode, and quite a few questions answered to boot.

The whole "who is dead" deal really got to me, though. Now I'm thinking: complete plot twist within the next few episodes.

I wrote a whole review of this episode on my blog ^.^
 
02-06-12, 4:16 PM

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If you don't understand what is going on better check the manga, the manga is not even completed what I can see.
I can only find 10 chapters but it does explain a lot.
Misaki Mei looks so different in the manga than anime, but dunno.

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02-06-12, 4:18 PM

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Maybe they are all dead and there only one person alive
 
02-06-12, 4:23 PM

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So they will just ignore? That's a nice plan, but we know they will die sooner or later.
 
02-06-12, 4:36 PM

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Im assuming people would notice by now, the op changed again this time they replace the nurse with the teacher.

So 2 deaths in june the nurse and now the guy with the heart problem. Im assuming his portrait will be replace with someone else now.

So the class "countermeasure" is to basically ignore one person from their class that a bit harsh not to mention how it affect someones mental health being isolated and not being able to talk to anyone.

I'll just laugh it this "counter measure" doesn't work in the end.

Next ep. looks like the to isolated students are going to have an ep to themselves
 
02-06-12, 4:37 PM

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Another mediocre episode. *ba dum tss*

It's actually slightly improving, there's an actual reason now.

 
02-06-12, 4:42 PM

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wait, wait... so every year after Misaki mysteriously died, there is one extra person in the classroom. But somehow, nobody knows who that person is. So they start ignoring a person like they don't exist to have the total number of students to normal?
is that right? O_O

the umbrella ep was pretty creepy. not really scary, but definitely suspenseful. :D
the one thing that stands out in this anime is its cliffhangers :3
 
02-06-12, 4:55 PM

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Very interesting story. I get the gist of it. Each month 1 person in class 3 dies but Class 3 has found that out if they totally ignore a new student, they escape death. So now the cycle cannot be stopped cause Kouichi was not informed about the rules of
Class 3 beforehand and that he is found out the truth.

Im glad that Mei exists. She's just another student that greedy Class 3 ignored.

Imma enjoy watching each of them die. X)
 
02-06-12, 4:57 PM

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lol I bet MC is the dead dude.

Also I could get behind shipping MC and Mei, not even gonna lie
 
02-06-12, 4:58 PM

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So... things are more clear now. An extra student to prevent dead of students. Im more courious about this.

Waiting for next episode.
 
02-06-12, 5:16 PM

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this is fckn amazing
 
02-06-12, 5:18 PM

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Just taking a breather but the following,

OMG SHIT! Induced cardiac arrest by the thing! It’s obvious in the spoiler
this shit was watching him and inducing him with the cardiac arrest. Sudden chemical/bodily fluid manipulation or God knows that powers it used to do that to him. His eyes bulging out was sick. Deadman Wonderland/ Mirai Nikki reminder of that too. Edit this later.

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02-06-12, 5:23 PM

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Now I know why misaki was bring ignored and know one of them is dead but who is it?
 
02-06-12, 5:28 PM

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Im starting to wonder how the girl from 26 years ago died.
 
02-06-12, 5:41 PM

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Heh at least both Mei and Sakakibara got themselves a partner x)

And judging from the preview, those two seems to be getting really close.

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Also, one question:

I'm not into disabled girls - at all!

So.... WHY THE FARK IS MEI SO FARKING MOE? >.<


Haha you're not the only one. I find her really MOE too. She's really cute :P
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02-06-12, 5:52 PM

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So basically (someone correct me if I'm wrong), Class 3 pretends Misaki dosen't exist so that the number of people in the class stays the right number and nobody dies. So when Kouichi comes in, he treats Misaki as if she does exist, which is why the class is one extra again, and why the murders have started to occur again, right?
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Darn. Thought for sure she was a ghost. Clever use of camera works has tricked me!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Now we just need to know why they didn't tell him to begin with...

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So Sakakibara is not existing anymore...
In that situation I would go straight for the girls locker room and see how non existent I am xP

Lol. I was thinking of doing something silly in the class while everyone is trying to pay attention to the teacher but this works too. :)
 
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PhantomEX said:
There's only one explanation for Takabayashi's death. KIRA.

..

Anywho, im starting to think that Kouichi might be the dead guy...


I re-watched his death while listening to the Death Note soundtrack that plays the Light kills all those criminals. Brilliant.
 
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