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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
258 80.12%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
46 14.29%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
9 2.80%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
8 2.48%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
1 0.31%
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02-06-12, 6:37 AM

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The script of this anime just gets much stupid and worse with every episode passing.
 
02-06-12, 6:40 AM

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Fuck rape. just fuck it. damn why did she have to be raped? argg fuck.
 
02-06-12, 6:53 AM

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Every girl gets raped in this anime? She's only the second. Some people really need to stop being so dramatic.
I enjoyed the episode, nothing outstanding but it wasn't bad.
 
02-06-12, 7:33 AM

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I hate hate hate that retarted dad of Yukiteru. Yuno, give me your knife and I will kill him!!!!!!
 
02-06-12, 7:52 AM

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Really loved Seventh's story, I really felt bad for Ai and Marco..
Shit's going down next week.

No-mercy Shu and No-coward Yukkii.. Yes.. I think I'm beginning to like this even more.
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02-06-12, 7:59 AM

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This, like many anime's, is one of those that creates great minors; significantly more interesting then the repetitive mains.
Marco and Ai are easily my fav' characters of the series and (cross me fingers now) I was really suprised they died. :o

Really, from Yuki getting propositioned by a maniac OTT 14 year old stalker, to his dad being spineless, now Yuki's mum is out of the picture; it's bad enough that he's the underperformer of the series, but yet again, more hassle comes his way that will no doubt finally give him the grounds to improve?
An attempt to drill into our heads the notion of Yuki being the poor, unfortunate flower we must have sympathy for.

 
02-06-12, 8:07 AM

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I'm having one of those moments when I know I've read the manga but I cannot remember any of it. :')

But anyways, I hate Yukki's father.
And I'm starting to wonder when Yukiteru is going to grow some balls. (again, I can't remember anything from the manga, I should re-read it)
 
02-06-12, 8:20 AM

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I hate the usage of "rape" as means of sympathy. It's twice already.

And the direction/writing is all over the place. =,=

The title doesn't even make any sense. lol
 
02-06-12, 8:26 AM

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Can someone just make Marco as the new main character?I can't find a better MC in this Anime...
 
02-06-12, 8:48 AM

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MorningGlory said:
Can someone just make Marco as the new main character?I can't find a better MC in this Anime...

Marco and Ai remind me a bit of a very stable version of Ladd and Lua from Baccano (a series that doesn't have a single main character), and they without a doubt qualify as interesting (I liked their characters too).

Funny enough, I read the Mirai Nikki Paradox manga (no Yuki or Yuno) and absolutely loved it.

 
02-06-12, 9:22 AM

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God does every single female character get raped in this anime? The first it happened had impact, but when it happens to every friggen girl then it just becomes a pathetic attempt at creating sympathy. Just goes to show how bad the writing is. I wonder why I'm still watching this.



?? what are you talking about?

there were only 2 females to get raped or i am missing something?
 
02-06-12, 9:35 AM

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So, Marco became victim of his own hybris in the end. If he had overcome his pride which demanded him to humiliate Yuki and destroyed his and Yuno's diaries the outcome would have been different.

It's tragic and even ironic to some degree that he came too late to save his loved one for the second time but this time it was because he deliberately challenged fate.

What Marco said about Yuno sounds plausible. She is quite selfish if you look it that way. Yukki is probably only an instrument to steady her sanity. True love certainly doesn't look like this.
 
02-06-12, 10:02 AM

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THIS WAS INSANE! I think this episode got me the most out of all the others.
Marco and Ai grew on me after that horrid and sad flashback.
I did not expect her to get raped. I really cried when Marco and Ai died in each other's arms.

And then Yuki's mom dies because of his shit face father, who deserves to die a very painful and slow death.
I don't remember the last time I was so disgusted by a character.
 
02-06-12, 10:04 AM

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Boring, except for Marco and Ai's flashback.
“See the good in that which is evil, and the evil in that which is good.
Pledge yourself to neither side, but vow instead to preserve the balance that exists between the two.”
― Hayao Miyazaki
 
02-06-12, 10:43 AM
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It's sad to see Marco & Ai go, those two really grew on me in the adaptation. They had a rather nice ending too. So touching ;^;
 
02-06-12, 10:54 AM

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Best ep of Mirai nikki. Marco & Ai are my fav. characters in this anime now.
 
02-06-12, 11:24 AM

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Cmon people....we all know Yuki doesn't have the balls to kill his father.
 
02-06-12, 11:39 AM

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All I can say is that Yukiteru's dad is trash, scum, vermin, that should just die already and rot in hell!!!

I've never hated a character so much...I mean what the hell is wrong with that guy.
I am a sucker for romance!!!!
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02-06-12, 12:16 PM

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I'm starting to get sick of this series.
Compared to the manga, ok, the anime is so much better with the better drawing and how the timeline and additional plots are adjusted.

But at the same time, turned into a fanservice, excess-blood-and-gore cult, sob story.

I only read some chapters of the manga just to compare and see any differences since I wanna stick with the anime. So I can't tell much .
But as far as I can see, the animators're just trying to add some stupid selling points to it.

I just checked the manga, there's no such thing as rape in Ai's past.
It only showed how Ai and Marco met.

I like how the animators added their schooldays.
But truly hate how they added that damnable scene.

IMAO, the reasons why they added that scene...
1. just to make it more of a sob story.
2. it will surely attract some pervs.
3. and so they could sell the BD.
4. the director or whoever in charge of the plot adaptation ( whom I believe to be male(s) ) doesn't/don't find this disturbing. The person(s) might find it sexually aroused and add it just to satisfy person(s)' sexual desires.

Believe me, from what I've come across, there really are authors/writers who would write sex scenes( or even rape ) like WTF, out of nowhere and completely unrelated to the story just to give themselves a lil j*zz in the pants and share it with the world. The real plots might be damn good , but it's still sick ! Even if there's some good in it, I don't give a f/ck.

AND the reasons why I hate that scene in Ai's past...
1. the animators could have just let Marco save her just in time. OK, it might sound a bit cliche, but at this point, what was IMPORTANT here was that the couple must GET OVER the PAST and grow stronger, by the 'past' I mean, it could be any harsh sexual harassment, doens't need to be a rape.

2. Ai's crying didn't sound much like a scream for help. I don't watch porn( and yes, gonna be a foreveralone 'course I'm not really interested in sexual matters )
But it sounded to me like the voice actress dubbed her to sound 'sexy' while being raped rather than freaking the hell out.

3. There was a noise of the ***, don't know how to explain, but you know, when the screen focused at the pink cellphone on the ground.
There's really no need to add such noise !! MUTE everything would be much more effective if the animators really wanted it to be shocking/heartbreaking.

4. In fact, the scene where those sc*ms were 'doing it' should never have been made. There're so many ways to imply the rape, like pan the camera up high, looking from a very far away distance and only see blurry things IDK, but then they decided to make it close and censored it by blackpainting, only to uncensored things in the BD version.



Well, and I kinda have the same feelings when watching 6th being raped, though, I didn't leave my comments here.
So why complain now?
Because I think one rape is more than enough, actually, none is best.
There are thousand ways to make a story a sob, dramatic , etc. So why this way? I tried to ignore it once but not gonna do it again.

If you ever wonder, yes, I'm a feminist.

Sorry for the long post.
 
02-06-12, 12:17 PM

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Show is getting so meh.

Highlight of this ep is Marco yelling @ annoying main characters.
 
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