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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
65 43.33%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
43 28.67%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
28 18.67%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
9 6.00%
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06-06-12, 1:03 AM

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Great movie! I think i like anime again! ^^
 
06-06-12, 2:26 AM

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Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)
 
06-06-12, 2:33 AM

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Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)

omg if they did berserk like sword of the stranger i would have jizzed myself
 
06-06-12, 5:49 AM

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Watched a bit and god this looks really bad, 3D doesn't belong in anime like this. If they're doing 3D don't do it to try and mimic 2D, it will always look like crap.
 
06-06-12, 1:47 PM

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newtonsballs said:
Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)

omg if they did berserk like sword of the stranger i would have jizzed myself


We all would have. :(
 
06-06-12, 3:22 PM

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I think people are a little blind to say that the original series is better than this. You can say you preferred the original series sure, but saying it was genuinely better is simply nostalgia talking.

The animation was fantastic. The crappy soldier CGI was the major let-down.

At least acknowledge that the soundtrack is absolutely fantastic.

It's a disappointment but don't lose your head over it, we have 2 more movies for the Golden Age and I think the most important things are yet to come. Then we can decide which version is truly better.

But just from a quality standpoint, this part of the Golden Age is much easier to watch in the movie than it was in the series.

JoeLT was correct saying using 3D to mimic 2D does not work well, but saying that, you can't deny how good Zodd looked.

 
06-06-12, 4:20 PM

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I hope they do a better job with the CG on the next one, other then that, i really liked it.
 
06-06-12, 4:43 PM

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I think people are a little blind to say that the original series is better than this. You can say you preferred the original series sure, but saying it was genuinely better is simply nostalgia talking.

The animation was fantastic. The crappy soldier CGI was the major let-down.

At least acknowledge that the soundtrack is absolutely fantastic.

It's a disappointment but don't lose your head over it, we have 2 more movies for the Golden Age and I think the most important things are yet to come. Then we can decide which version is truly better.

But just from a quality standpoint, this part of the Golden Age is much easier to watch in the movie than it was in the series.

JoeLT was correct saying using 3D to mimic 2D does not work well, but saying that, you can't deny how good Zodd looked.



The original series was better. There is no question that the artwork looks old and shit and due to the times the animation isn't as good as it could be but at least it doesn't look ridiculous. Just old. I'm not gonna compare the technical department of this movie with that in mind though. I will compare it with the time it was made and that makes it an abomination.
Also the story telling in the old series although not as good as the manga was a lot better than the half ass story telling we got here.

I saw nothing that fantastic about Zodd at all. And what animation was fantastic? Are you freaking shitting me? They moved like they where made out of plastic for god sakes. Are you blind?
Have you seen some modern games? The characters move and look better that this fucking movie and that's a fucking game with the picture being made right that moment from your graphic card not something pre-rendered with all the time to be made in detail.

As about the music, well sorry i don't give a shit. A good music exist to ether complete a nice image and story or to make them slightly less good if it's horrible but it always comes last. Anime is most of all a visual medium.
You can make an anime without music, but you can't make one with no image.
 
06-06-12, 5:02 PM

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AmberFebruary said:
that "dream sequence" about Gut's childhood might just be a teaser and not a full exposition, it hasn't been brought up yet, we'll see w/ the next movie...

that's what i thought. i didnt watch the tv series or the manga yet but im not feeling confused at all like they were saying above. i think they will show his childhood in another movie
 
06-06-12, 5:16 PM

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Monad said:
I saw nothing that fantastic about Zodd at all. And what animation was fantastic? Are you freaking shitting me? They moved like they where made out of plastic for god sakes. Are you blind?


Agreed to some degree. A lot of the CGI animation was poor, mainly on soldiers. Zodd was fine, in fact, I thought the scene was incredible. I couldn't pick out a flaw apart from parts of human Zodd's animation. Please stop being rude, you'll just make your opinion less and less valid to people. Aggressiveness always fills in for absent argument.

Monad said:
Also the story telling in the old series although not as good as the manga was a lot better than the half ass story telling we got here.


None of the story telling was half assed, and I'd like an example of what you believe was half assed. I watched this movie earlier with 3 people. Two had never read the manga or seen the series, one has read past this point in the manga. All 3 agreed that the movie was easier to watch, felt fairly "Complete" apart from the vague glance at Guts's back story (Which will likely be filled out over the course of the 3 movies).

I informed them that character development points were cut, but the overall pacing was enough to keep the movie interesting and on the move, leaving little time for idle filler which is always a good thing to keep movies watchable. I also let them know what was going on during Guts's flashback. It could be counted as cheating, but I don't exactly think the movie is flawless - It is decent.

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As about the music, well sorry i don't give a shit


Then why comment on it? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about anyway. The fact you say anime is mostly visual medium confirms that to me. Guess what? Audio tracks exist. They're just scripts of characters from shows. Madoka had one with the Japanese Blu-ray. I listened to it, I enjoyed it. These are essentially anime without visuals. They work and they're popular. On the contrary, without music the image will fall flat unless the scene calls for it. I'd also like to point out the importance and popularity of voice actors, which is an enormous part of the anime industry and is arguably the biggest beside author. It's all about the sound.

So yes, there is question about it. I want to hear a decent argument that doesn't devolve into if I'm blind or how modern games look. Did you know graphics aren't everything in video games? I would totally play a game that looks like this movie visually, and I will, it's called Ni No Kuni. Look it up if you're a gamer.

Also, I'd like an example of how anime without music would work. I've given an example and I'm sure it will be quite easy to find.
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06-06-12, 11:24 PM

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just watched and loved it
 
06-06-12, 11:44 PM

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I thought this movie was great. The animation didn't really bother me as much as I thought it would, and it was a pretty solid adaptation. The best part in my opinion is when Adonis was stabbed. It made me feel sorry for him which is really rare in these types of series.
Overall, I enjoyed this movie, and I am looking forward to the other two movies. I hope they are all as good as this one.
 
06-06-12, 11:45 PM

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Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)


Wouldn't the movie bombing = to no chance of another anime adaption.....
I was hoping for the success for the movies so these guys could possibly start the anime back up again from where it left off and actually give us some fucking new chapters constantly instead of 1 every 6 months. If the movies bomb that means they lose money and lost money equals less of a chance of them deciding to have another anime adaption.

It's easy to compliment someone that you'll never envy, but even easier to try and tear down someone who's better than you.
 
06-07-12, 5:43 AM

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Ragix said:
Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)


Wouldn't the movie bombing = to no chance of another anime adaption.....
I was hoping for the success for the movies so these guys could possibly start the anime back up again from where it left off and actually give us some fucking new chapters constantly instead of 1 every 6 months. If the movies bomb that means they lose money and lost money equals less of a chance of them deciding to have another anime adaption.


This is true.

Lost money in the movies is going to demotivate Kentaro more than anybody could believe. I'd be hard pressed to think that if they flopped, he wouldn't see the point in continuing.
 
06-07-12, 8:55 AM

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Psychodrake said:
Ragix said:
Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)


Wouldn't the movie bombing = to no chance of another anime adaption.....
I was hoping for the success for the movies so these guys could possibly start the anime back up again from where it left off and actually give us some fucking new chapters constantly instead of 1 every 6 months. If the movies bomb that means they lose money and lost money equals less of a chance of them deciding to have another anime adaption.


This is true.

Lost money in the movies is going to demotivate Kentaro more than anybody could believe. I'd be hard pressed to think that if they flopped, he wouldn't see the point in continuing.


Yes people, go all buy the movie even if you don't like how it was made so we can show Berserk sells and keep Kentaros moral high despite being a mangaka and the most important thing about his work is how good the manga goes.
 
06-07-12, 4:49 PM

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Monad said:
Psychodrake said:
Ragix said:
Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)


Wouldn't the movie bombing = to no chance of another anime adaption.....
I was hoping for the success for the movies so these guys could possibly start the anime back up again from where it left off and actually give us some fucking new chapters constantly instead of 1 every 6 months. If the movies bomb that means they lose money and lost money equals less of a chance of them deciding to have another anime adaption.


This is true.

Lost money in the movies is going to demotivate Kentaro more than anybody could believe. I'd be hard pressed to think that if they flopped, he wouldn't see the point in continuing.


Yes people, go all buy the movie even if you don't like how it was made so we can show Berserk sells and keep Kentaros moral high despite being a mangaka and the most important thing about his work is how good the manga goes.


Void argument. The amount of merchandising behind Berserk and the general success of the series means Miura is quite well off. This is clear by the long hiatus's, he clearly has enough to support himself over long periods of doing nothing. He could easily begin another project should he feel.

Supporting a series of author you like is not unknown, either. Regardless, I never said anything about buying the movie and you're putting words in my mouth to try and look clever, another example of absent argument. All I did was present a possibility.
 
06-08-12, 1:29 AM

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can't wait for the second one.8.5/10 from me.the assassination scene was my favorite part they done it gr8 it was filled with emotion and horror and the music finally got better in that scene xD but the ending could be better.still it was an important scene since Griffith doomed himself with his own mouth in that moment
 
06-08-12, 3:42 AM

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Am I the only one who misses the original voice cast? Who can forget Gut's intense voice and all the emotion thrown into it? Take for instance the scene with Zodd when Griffith get's knocked down Gut's in the original screams in a very convincingly concerned voice "Griffith!!!" in this movie we just dont see that same amount of intensitythat existed in the orignal anime. much more could be said but that's just one thing that really stuck out for me as lacking (not to mention the sometimes good/bad art and the halfassed told story)
 
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06-09-12, 2:05 AM

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Ragix said:
Zoddguts said:
Thank god this movie bombed in theater in Japan and the DVD/Blu Ray sales are just as bad as well.Killing any chances of them doing more than the current movie trilogy. Here's hoping when we another adaptation in 15 years, they'll go 2D animation instead. Shame we won't get a Sword of the Stranger awesome animated type movie for Berserk. What a waste. Thankfully Japan has spoken and they don't want this shit for Berserk. :)


Wouldn't the movie bombing = to no chance of another anime adaption.....
I was hoping for the success for the movies so these guys could possibly start the anime back up again from where it left off and actually give us some fucking new chapters constantly instead of 1 every 6 months. If the movies bomb that means they lose money and lost money equals less of a chance of them deciding to have another anime adaption.



Because those sequel's are already in late production, the two remaining movies will be coming out this year, it's too late to cancel them at this point. Either way don't expect more movies to be made after the third movie.


Lost money in the movies is going to demotivate Kentaro more than anybody could believe. I'd be hard pressed to think that if they flopped, he wouldn't see the point in continuing.


Compare to how he is now? His releases are already bad and even worse whenever there's a new idolm@ster game for him to fap to. I still lol at the character designer of idolm@ster getting the job to direct Berserk because of Miura's fanboyism of idolm@ster.
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