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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
43 28.67%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
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2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
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06-04-12, 2:58 PM

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Psychodrake said:
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Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil.


It was always accidental, he was pretty gutted in the manga too.

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional
 
06-04-12, 3:28 PM

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Dizzee said:
Psychodrake said:
Dizzee said:
Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil.


It was always accidental, he was pretty gutted in the manga too.

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


Yeah, the movie was pretty good. I don't know why so many people are complaining about the art style. It was refreshing compared to the anime version. The way they re-did scenes like this one to put a much bigger impact. In both versions you can see Guts had regret, for killing the boy, but in the anime he did it because it was necessary since he saw him. In the movie it was more accidental because he just killed him without even noticing it was a boy before to late, emotionally hurting Guts as he does not know what to do for the boy so just grabs his hand. Overall it was a pretty good watch. They tried twisting some big scenes that were in the anime and did a good job on it. Can't wait for the second part.

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06-04-12, 4:46 PM

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06-04-12, 6:09 PM

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Well, I have to admit it was better than I expected and I liked the art more than in the series. Looking forward to second movie.


 
06-04-12, 8:41 PM

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I would suggest to be very careful of your mentality. Some of the stuff I have seen of the manga of this series is 10 TIME WORST than the anime and Movie in terms of sex, blood and psychological Trauma. The manga is nothing of kiddy and TBH it's rated in Canada as 17+ Mature.


just googling the phrase "guts berserk wikia" already gave me the overview of whats to come lol, but ye i can imagine that the manga is pretty disturbing material from what i have read on wikia.com
 
06-04-12, 9:35 PM

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Just watched the movie finally with English subs. I have to admit i went into it with low expectations because I knew that it could never do the manga justice. In that respect I was totally correct. Its not a bad movie I definitely enjoyed it, but it was way too short left out a ton of important bits from the Golden Age Arc. I'm amazed at how poorly they handled Guts childhood. It moved too fast in my opinion, trying to put my self into the shoes of someone who has never read the story it would probably be a very confusing movie. I do have to say that the art, apart from the CG was very good, the voice acting wasn't bad but nothing memorable, and the soundtrack wasn't very memorable either. All in all I liked the movie, I have high hopes for the sequel due to the trailer at the end of the first movie. Looks like it will not only be longer but cover things better than the first movie did. Hopefully these three movies will spark a new OVA series for berserk with quality animation and covering all of the manga.

Edit: I forgot to add that I loved the assassination scene it was faithfully done and captured that sense of horror. That was a very important part in that arc and they nailed it in the movie much better than how it was in the original Anime.
 
06-04-12, 10:10 PM

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The runtime is sinfully short. 70 minutes, not including credits and previews.

That said, the void left by the cut material doesn't seem too bad. I guess. I'll test it on someone who hasn't read the season before tomorrow.
 
06-05-12, 3:46 AM

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Ragix said:
Dizzee said:
Psychodrake said:
Dizzee said:
Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil.


It was always accidental, he was pretty gutted in the manga too.

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


Yeah, the movie was pretty good. I don't know why so many people are complaining about the art style. It was refreshing compared to the anime version. The way they re-did scenes like this one to put a much bigger impact. In both versions you can see Guts had regret, for killing the boy, but in the anime he did it because it was necessary since he saw him. In the movie it was more accidental because he just killed him without even noticing it was a boy before to late, emotionally hurting Guts as he does not know what to do for the boy so just grabs his hand. Overall it was a pretty good watch. They tried twisting some big scenes that were in the anime and did a good job on it. Can't wait for the second part.


Well from what I've seen, it's a purposeful choice for them to make the Golden Age arc much brighter and happier looking. I bet the tone will shift through the art style as well as the script as we delve into the next few movies.

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


I was talking about the manga, you the series. The series wasn't exactly known for being very true to the manga at times. Regardless, you didn't specify in your last post and say "STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about" like I should have some form of psychic power because of your own poor/vague writing skills.
 
06-05-12, 4:01 AM

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RedLikeMyRage said:
Just watched the movie finally with English subs. I have to admit i went into it with low expectations because I knew that it could never do the manga justice. In that respect I was totally correct. Its not a bad movie I definitely enjoyed it, but it was way too short left out a ton of important bits from the Golden Age Arc. I'm amazed at how poorly they handled Guts childhood. It moved too fast in my opinion, trying to put my self into the shoes of someone who has never read the story it would probably be a very confusing movie. I do have to say that the art, apart from the CG was very good, the voice acting wasn't bad but nothing memorable, and the soundtrack wasn't very memorable either. All in all I liked the movie, I have high hopes for the sequel due to the trailer at the end of the first movie. Looks like it will not only be longer but cover things better than the first movie did. Hopefully these three movies will spark a new OVA series for berserk with quality animation and covering all of the manga.

Edit: I forgot to add that I loved the assassination scene it was faithfully done and captured that sense of horror. That was a very important part in that arc and they nailed it in the movie much better than how it was in the original Anime.


Exactly. I feel as though a new comer to the Berserk series would really enjoy this, but at the same time would most likely be really confused with the dream sequence of Gut's past. I was only able to understand it as many of you I'm sure because I've watched the series and read the manga. A new viewer would probably be kind of confused. Since after all the pacing is MUCH more quicker then it should be. I think they are trying to get away with their popularity and kind of cut these major scenes short assuming we already know the story. If I was a first time watcher my impression would be "okay a black guy... he's laughing and seems bad... Staring at a sword.... Theirs a guy on a cliff.. and oh! his head fell off."

While obviously their is more to it then that.

Anyways I'm pretty much just supporting these movies in hopes to spark a continuation as well from where the anime left off if they get popular enough. Plus maybe they'll actually put out more chapters of the manga instead of making us wait months for a small chapter. Not saying I didn't enjoy it though. It's great being able to watch Berserk in a new way after watching the anime quite some time ago.

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06-05-12, 5:56 AM

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Psychodrake said:
Ragix said:
Dizzee said:
Psychodrake said:
Dizzee said:
Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil.


It was always accidental, he was pretty gutted in the manga too.

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


I was talking about the manga, you the series. The series wasn't exactly known for being very true to the manga at times. Regardless, you didn't specify in your last post and say "STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about" like I should have some form of psychic power because of your own poor/vague writing skills.

This post was meant for people who watched TV version, as I said before If you didn't understood what I said than don't reply thinking that you found a stupid.
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06-05-12, 6:53 AM

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Too short, they cut some cool parts D=.They should have stopped the first film on guts leaving, I thought that at least the end would be better than after the conversation between Charlotte and Griffith.

Guts killing Adonis was pretty touching, they made the scene even more tragic

Loved the graphics, they looked pretty weird because I'm not used to it, but even so, they were amazing *-*. They looked like video game graphics and not anime xD

Loved the soundtrack was well

Even so, I think that they could have made some improvements.


 
06-05-12, 8:13 AM

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that "dream sequence" about Gut's childhood might just be a teaser and not a full exposition, it hasn't been brought up yet, we'll see w/ the next movie, in the scenario between him and Casca

anyway, this movie is what i can call "guilty pleasure", i certainly don't like the CG at some parts but its splendid, one more rewatch and my eyes will adapt with it
i also love the feel of its OST w/c is much more befitting of its medieval setting

oh, and that assassination scene is just brilliant, it has the punch and the impact it aimed to deliver
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06-05-12, 9:15 AM

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Berserk first part was a great Movie
Guts as Rambo at Medieval Times
 
06-05-12, 11:30 AM

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RedLikeMyRage said:
Just watched the movie finally with English subs. I have to admit i went into it with low expectations because I knew that it could never do the manga justice. In that respect I was totally correct. Its not a bad movie I definitely enjoyed it, but it was way too short left out a ton of important bits from the Golden Age Arc. I'm amazed at how poorly they handled Guts childhood. It moved too fast in my opinion, trying to put my self into the shoes of someone who has never read the story it would probably be a very confusing movie. I do have to say that the art, apart from the CG was very good, the voice acting wasn't bad but nothing memorable, and the soundtrack wasn't very memorable either. All in all I liked the movie, I have high hopes for the sequel due to the trailer at the end of the first movie. Looks like it will not only be longer but cover things better than the first movie did. Hopefully these three movies will spark a new OVA series for berserk with quality animation and covering all of the manga.



I agree with you completely on this.

Dizzee said:
Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil.


Psychodrake said:

It was always accidental, he was pretty gutted in the manga too.


Dizzee said:

STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about. In the TV series he actually saw the boy first, said "he saw me" and then killed him without any regret. In the movie version it was much more emotional


Psychodrake said:
I was talking about the manga, you the series. The series wasn't exactly known for being very true to the manga at times. Regardless, you didn't specify in your last post and say "STFU if u don't know what I'm talking about" like I should have some form of psychic power because of your own poor/vague writing skills.


Dizzee said:
This post was meant for people who watched TV version, as I said before If you didn't understood what I said than don't reply thinking that you found a stupid.


Whoa, there really is no need to be so rude. You said "Looks like now he killed the kid by accident, I knew GUTS wasn't that evil." 'now' implying that it never happened before. I wouldn't take it too harshly; I've made plenty of blunders. And to be honest, I had no idea you was on about the anime either; it was ages ago when I saw that and it'd probably be the same for many users. Swear and have a go at me if it makes you feel any better. Or you could learn from this and move on.

P.S There was something wrong with the quote pyramid so I had to lay it out like this. Sorry.
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06-05-12, 12:07 PM

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Imo it was amazing... Much, much better than I expected. While it was heavily cut, they didn't change anything (just added more scenes to the sieges and made Guts flashback/nightmare different in style).

I loved the pacing (understandibly fast, but slows down when needed), loved the directing. OST and Voice Acting was amazing. Missed Caska's old voice but the new one is passable and the rest of the cast does a terrific job, especially Griffith and Guts. Fight scenes were just crazy good, Guts' movements were really fluid.

What bothered me was some bland facial animation especially at the start, and like no dirt/grime/ash on anyone in a castle siege that lasted 3 months. Other than those small details it was superb.

Guts' emotions, and his relation to Griffith came through really well too. The scene where he impales Adonis was the best rendition out of all 3 versions.

Definitely buying it on blueray.

ed: oh and the OP owns hard.
 
06-05-12, 12:13 PM

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I saw this as a power struggle. I don't know if I'm right but this is how I interpret it from the movie. Julius never liked Grifith to begin with (due to various reasons). Julius is heir to the throne, so when he saw Grifith hitting on the princess, Grifith became a threat to him.

Maybe it is something like this, but they showed Julius just for a few minutes before the assassination attempt. We did see that he didn't want Griffith close to the princess, but the assassination plot was rushed and pointless. To someone who didn't read the manga, it looked like a stupid excuse to send Guts to kill someone and show some blood.

There was that fairly lengthy castle gosship section. They mentioned that Griffith take over the role of vanguard from him, and the guard role of the king at the hunt. And they showed his contempt toward those of common birth. I thought it was alright.
 
06-05-12, 2:19 PM

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I've seen the series and read the manga...have to say both are better than this movie.

The animation was funky and not in a good way. The music was alright, the series had better music. But you really can't tell this story in an hour and a half. The movie just showed all the big stuff, leaving out much of what the manga has to offer.

And the movie by itself isn't that great. It's boring. You never get a sense or feel of the characters. It doesn't feel like it goes anywhere because all the movie does is skip around.


Disappointing to say the least.
 
06-05-12, 5:22 PM

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The CG was pretty painful at times. The facial expressions for all the background soldiers looked like Henpeita from Gintama. lol
Overall, the art style was disappointing. It was too clean looking for a medieval setting. Though a few scenes here and there were quite nice. Especially the scenes between Griffith and Guts.

Im still looking forward to the next movie since I'm a huge Berserk fan. Though I might start re-reading the manga.
 
06-05-12, 7:51 PM

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I liked it.
Cant wait for arc II
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06-05-12, 9:04 PM

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When a new movie makes an old outdated series seem good you know you have a big pile of shit in your hands.

The artwork seemed so fake like the people where separate from the environment and the CGI was horrible, not only because it looked like this

but because also the animation movement was very fake and CGI like too. What the fuck did they use for all that shit? Some three year old strategy game? For fucks sake i've seen playable scenes from games that look and move better than that.
The battles all looked so cheap and uninteresting.

If that was not all the story was told in a half-ass way. I get how a non manga reader won't notice much and still think it's decent there but seriously considering how good the story is they couldn't have made much worse job at it. Griffith lacks some intensity and half the time it seemed like he was playing gay games with Guts, Casca was some annoying woman and the others where basically non existent.

You wait for years to see Berserk animated again just to get some cheap shit that seems like it was made in a hurry in someone's old computer using some old strategy gaming engine. I have one thing to say to the producers of this film. FUCK YOU!
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