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Feb 4, 2012 3:05 AM

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Persona 4 should be more action-oriented. I know that the game isn't entirely focused on fighting shadows and is essentially fan service for those already acquainted with the video game, but the lack of decent action scenes really hinders the shows potential.
 
Feb 4, 2012 3:13 AM

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persona4 is never an action show to begin with anyway, so why expecting that?
its strength are the colourful characters and the little interesting scenarios. No point deviate from the plot just for the sake of it. It's a slice of life/comedy/mystery show with those persona battles as gateways to help getting to the next point in the story.

it's like saying madoka should be moremonster-of-the-week oriented
 
Feb 4, 2012 5:50 AM

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imo anime fans today look for different things than back in 2006 or back in 1996
 
Feb 4, 2012 8:56 AM

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i thought that both show were bad. are they even getting an audience?

Bad shows doesn't mean it isn't enjoyable to watch. :P
 
Feb 4, 2012 9:52 AM

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O'dear, o'dear.
 
Feb 4, 2012 10:23 AM

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LOL oh wow tbh neither shows are horrible so I dunno what the big fuss is about.

Persona haters to the left, GC haters to the right.

The Persona anime is actually as close as a game to anime adaptation is probably ever going to get. It destroys Tales of the Abyss's anime for sure.

Guilty Crown is just fine. I love how lots of people are going ape shit over these two animes in the beginning and now they're like "LOL IT'S SO SHIT."

Make up your fucking minds before you join the 'in' crowd, whatever that is.
 
Feb 5, 2012 1:05 PM

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Even if Persona''s script is bad, it doesn't mean he cannot criticize guilty crown's script, which really was bad, at least for the first half.
 
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[Persona 4] Script writer Kumagaya Jun tweeted that he was perplexed to see Guilty Crown sold 10,000 copies. "I'm concerned about it as a writer. Although the animation graphics were great, the scenario was in that quality."

Kumagaya apologized on his twitter account that he had made offensive and self-centered remarks.


That Kumagaya guy sounds like a "bitch-ass punk" and the now-run-of-the-mill "herbivore man" to me.

If you're gonna talk mess about someone or something, stand by it. "Shit sells," but you don't need to take it.

(I don't like Persona either, but atleast it has some history going on.)
 
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butthurt... how offensive could it have been?
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Feb 6, 2012 3:29 AM

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Says the guy responsible for the fag episode... Both shows suck in one way or another. Fix yourself first, then complain about other mediocre titles.
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Feb 10, 2012 6:02 PM

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Guilty Crown is one of the most atrocious shows in recent years but this is really a case with a pot calling a kettle black. The Persona 4 anime really took a shit on the original game, especially the script which turned everyone into shallow asshats and cared more about terrible comedy segments than taking anything seriously.
 
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why does this thread consist mostly of fans of one or neither show calling one or both horrible? why do you gotta hate? why can't people like one or both? people take things so seriously. I could say "oh you hate GC / Persona but you like THAT SHOW WTF?". I mean people have different tastes. I suppose GC/P4 could be better but I still find both enjoyable.
 
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Tyrenol said:
dtshyk said:
[Persona 4] Script writer Kumagaya Jun tweeted that he was perplexed to see Guilty Crown sold 10,000 copies. "I'm concerned about it as a writer. Although the animation graphics were great, the scenario was in that quality."

Kumagaya apologized on his twitter account that he had made offensive and self-centered remarks.


That Kumagaya guy sounds like a "bitch-ass punk" and the now-run-of-the-mill "herbivore man" to me.

If you're gonna talk mess about someone or something, stand by it. "Shit sells," but you don't need to take it.

(I don't like Persona either, but atleast it has some history going on.)
Pretty sure if he didn't apologize, this thread would've be even more of a shitstorm than it already is. Nothing wrong with apologizing.

If the media wasn't in on this a comment like that will probably be ignored anyways. Now MAL just makes a big deal out of it for 8 pages.
 
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mystik said:
calling one or both horrible?
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why can't people like one or both?
There's a massive difference between liking something and thinking it's good. It's okay if you like shit--just don't go trying to pass it off as though it were good in any way.
 
Feb 29, 2012 5:21 AM

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its funny seeing a director that did a awful job writing his show complain about another show that does a awful job at writing too


It takes one to know one?

I agree with him. The show is crap.

GC reminds me of WWE.

GC has great production and visuals. But the characters lack substance, the drama is nonsensical, and everyone takes turns going back and forth from "heel" to "face." In the end, it feels like mindless entertainment.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and i shouldn't get worked up if they don't similarly agree with me. However, I do cringe when I see "Guilty Grown" and "greatest anime ever" used in the same paragraph. I mean common, really?!?
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The Persona anime is actually as close as a game to anime adaptation is probably ever going to get. It destroys Tales of the Abyss's anime for sure.


It doesn’t matter if it is a close adaptation. We can’t think only about how everything is happening almost exactly as the game and the characters are basically the same. It doesn’t flow well as a tv series, because they were not able to adapt it correctly. In the end, P4 is mere fanservice for those that played the game. Of course, some people that never actually played the game may eventually like it, but they are not the public this adaptation wants to get. P4 is a crazy cluster of events that were badly patched with one another in the episodes, and now the tv series will have to rush if it wants to get the best ending of the game.
 
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The Persona anime is actually as close as a game to anime adaptation is probably ever going to get. It destroys Tales of the Abyss's anime for sure.


It doesn’t matter if it is a close adaptation. We can’t think only about how everything is happening almost exactly as the game and the characters are basically the same. It doesn’t flow well as a tv series, because they were not able to adapt it correctly. In the end, P4 is mere fanservice for those that played the game. Of course, some people that never actually played the game may eventually like it, but they are not the public this adaptation wants to get. P4 is a crazy cluster of events that were badly patched with one another in the episodes, and now the tv series will have to rush if it wants to get the best ending of the game.


I've never heard of the game before I heard of the anime adaption, but I still like the series quite much and find it to work very well as a TV Series. I do not like everything about it, but what I don't like most probably I wouldn't have liked in the game too.

and this:

Persona 4 should be more action-oriented. I know that the game isn't entirely focused on fighting shadows and is essentially fan service for those already acquainted with the video game, but the lack of decent action scenes really hinders the shows potential.


Is exactly what I don't want. The action parts are definitely not the highlight of the show and I definitely wouldn't like the series as much if they would have stretched those out more.

GC on the other hand is a lost cause, I get if people find it enjoyable to watch or even somehow decent (it's probabyl not their fault but a lack of experience and judgement that comes with it), but noone can seriously tell me GC is good or even great who has any clue about storytelling. It makes Code Geass look like the prodigy anime it is treated as.

It's debateable if P4 is just decent or really good, but it's not debateable that GC is crappy, decent at best.
 
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Well he's not wrong. He should had been careful though since people will hate him just for being a hater even though they themselves are haters. Can't escape hypocrisy.

I don't know why he's surprise though. There's always a market for crap like this, for the same reasons why senseless fanservice harem crap are so prevalent. Its like the old saying "What plot? Just add sex, it'll sell."

I didn't really like the P4 anime all that much either but its hard to adapt a non-visual novel game so I'll forgive them. Heck, even VN are hard to adapt. All movies/shows based on other media suck and visa versa. And no, they definitely shouldn't had focused on the action. Since it was a game, the fight scenes would had been really really hard to duplicate. Another huge hurdle of adapting an RPG game, especially one with P4's setting. At least, some episodes were enjoyable as a fan of the game. GC was made from scratch so it was just crappy by nature.
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Well, Persona is better script-wise, but afaik it also sold better so why would he bother complaining about GC's sales?
He not complaining.

His comment is very casual really. nothing offensive about it.

Just like some post in this thread. (most of post is just trash tho)


Not surprising. I can't tel youl the number of times I've seen annoying fans and people blow things out of proportion without getting all the facts. Most of the fault usually lie with the bias assholes who reported the wholly incomplete and biased information.
 
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Just for the record, but isn't "stating that one is concerned about a certain development" more or less a (not the, but a) definition of complaining?
Complaining can be casual and doesn't have to be offensive.
 
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Well, given the high budget, Guilty Crown is supposed to be better than P4 in all aspects. Tragically, even the story itself is a blatant rip-off from other titles. Except for fanservice, graphics and good OSTs, Guilty Crown really can't match the lower-budgeted P4.

If only P4 receives more budget than it is receiving right now, It would easily gain advantage over Guilty Crown. The script-writing is creative and highly-improved compared to the game version (especially adding Narukami's trollish character), all that is left now is the graphics. Guilty Crown, on the other hand, wasted all the potential it had for crappy scripting and cliche, overdramatic storyline used only to cater overfantasizing otakus out there.

I mean, come on. Normal high school boy involved with a pink-haired sexy singing idol in a mission to save the world? That's purely for fanservice purpose, its not necessary to the storyline. That method of pairing normal boy with a walking fanservice shoujo have been used over and over again in other animes, and in 2012 it really gets old: Gosick, Kamisama Memochou, Shakugan no Shana, Hidan no Aria, Fate/Stay Night, Code Geass, etc etc etc. "Since meeting the girl, his life changed dramatically". Yeah, we're getting bored of that same recycled plot.
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What... Well I am yet to see Gulty Crown, but from the anime so far P4 is nothing special
 
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Perplexed? Well I'm not. With all the stupid crap Americans watch everyday (stupid Kardashian Reality shows, Twilight crap, etc) Japan is just trying to catch up! Persona is much better than this pos excuse of a anime btw.
 
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I see everyone posting on his thread right now is a Guilty Crown hater. If you people dislike a show this much, why send your own precious time posting negative comment.

I hear multiple comments about a poor plot.
Well to you guys, some people don't have the time to sit there and watch the show supper carefully to pick up all the irregularities that occur. I know I for one don't spend my time analyzing the show to such a level. When I watch an anime, I watch to enjoy my time. Is that what a show is for? It not suppose to make you think like your freaking aristotle or Plato of some sort. If you don't like, then don't watch it. You don't have to watch it and leave a raging comment behind. It was because of these raging comments that I did pick up the show when it was first release. I saw bad reviews and was like, I'll hold off on this. After I did pick it up, it was a type of show that I couldn't even put down. I finished 20 episodes in 1 day, but that besides the point. Don't criticize a show will all negative comments. If your going to criticize, you have to leaves it ups and downs, not says something like " shit show is shit." it's rathe annoying!

Cliche?
You who really gives a fuck! Excuse my harsh language. People do what sells and there is a reason why it sells. It works. Right? Ingenuity is not always a good nothing, but most of the time it is. But, if you want something that you know will work, just go with what has been done.

In the end, I we head back on topic, what thus person said is way out of line, and should not have been done. But that serves the sands for everyone who leaves only a balant negative comment.
 
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I see everyone posting on his thread right now is a Guilty Crown hater. If you people dislike a show this much, why send your own precious time posting negative comment.

I hear multiple comments about a poor plot.
Well to you guys, some people don't have the time to sit there and watch the show supper carefully to pick up all the irregularities that occur. I know I for one don't spend my time analyzing the show to such a level. When I watch an anime, I watch to enjoy my time. Is that what a show is for? It not suppose to make you think like your freaking aristotle or Plato of some sort. If you don't like, then don't watch it. You don't have to watch it and leave a raging comment behind. It was because of these raging comments that I did pick up the show when it was first release. I saw bad reviews and was like, I'll hold off on this. After I did pick it up, it was a type of show that I couldn't even put down. I finished 20 episodes in 1 day, but that besides the point. Don't criticize a show will all negative comments. If your going to criticize, you have to leaves it ups and downs, not says something like " shit show is shit." it's rathe annoying!

Cliche?
You who really gives a fuck! Excuse my harsh language. People do what sells and there is a reason why it sells. It works. Right? Ingenuity is not always a good nothing, but most of the time it is. But, if you want something that you know will work, just go with what has been done.

In the end, I we head back on topic, what thus person said is way out of line, and should not have been done. But that serves the sands for everyone who leaves only a balant negative comment.

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Monarch_Will said:
I see everyone posting on his thread right now is a Guilty Crown hater. If you people dislike a show this much, why send your own precious time posting negative comment.

I hear multiple comments about a poor plot.
Well to you guys, some people don't have the time to sit there and watch the show supper carefully to pick up all the irregularities that occur. I know I for one don't spend my time analyzing the show to such a level. When I watch an anime, I watch to enjoy my time. Is that what a show is for? It not suppose to make you think like your freaking aristotle or Plato of some sort. If you don't like, then don't watch it. You don't have to watch it and leave a raging comment behind. It was because of these raging comments that I did pick up the show when it was first release. I saw bad reviews and was like, I'll hold off on this. After I did pick it up, it was a type of show that I couldn't even put down. I finished 20 episodes in 1 day, but that besides the point. Don't criticize a show will all negative comments. If your going to criticize, you have to leaves it ups and downs, not says something like " shit show is shit." it's rathe annoying!


This is exactly how I feel. All that matters is how enjoyable something is to watch. I don't care if the story doesn't make sense 100% of the time. I don't care if the characters aren't very well developed. What I do care about is if I have a lot of fun watching it and I don't get bored... and nothing this season beats out Guilty Crown in pure enjoyment.

 
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This is exactly how I feel. All that matters is how enjoyable something is to watch. I don't care if the story doesn't make sense 100% of the time. I don't care if the characters aren't very well developed. What I do care about is if I have a lot of fun watching it and I don't get bored... and nothing this season beats out Guilty Crown in pure enjoyment.
Not watching Another.

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I hate those people who write /announce something critizing in public and have to apologize later. There been so many of this type of incident already. No,im not defending guilty crown, just saying that if u want to insult it, keep to your word and dont be a pussy that apologizes. My as well u dont tweet it. Nuffsaid =(
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This is exactly how I feel. All that matters is how enjoyable something is to watch. I don't care if the story doesn't make sense 100% of the time. I don't care if the characters aren't very well developed. What I do care about is if I have a lot of fun watching it and I don't get bored... and nothing this season beats out Guilty Crown in pure enjoyment.
Not watching Another.

lawl. No room to make that assertion.


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Guilty Crown.. While objectively really bad, it's entertaining as hell in the second half. I mean, Shu's character development is incredible for a main character. Well, compared to the other male protagonists
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I don't feel like Shu developped at all, but more like jumped from personalities to personalities.
 
Mar 22, 2012 5:39 AM

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Well I got bored with persona 4 and carried on watching guilty crown sooooo... yeah.
 
Mar 22, 2012 7:54 AM

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RyanSaotome said:
Monarch_Will said:
I see everyone posting on his thread right now is a Guilty Crown hater. If you people dislike a show this much, why send your own precious time posting negative comment.

I hear multiple comments about a poor plot.
Well to you guys, some people don't have the time to sit there and watch the show supper carefully to pick up all the irregularities that occur. I know I for one don't spend my time analyzing the show to such a level. When I watch an anime, I watch to enjoy my time. Is that what a show is for? It not suppose to make you think like your freaking aristotle or Plato of some sort. If you don't like, then don't watch it. You don't have to watch it and leave a raging comment behind. It was because of these raging comments that I did pick up the show when it was first release. I saw bad reviews and was like, I'll hold off on this. After I did pick it up, it was a type of show that I couldn't even put down. I finished 20 episodes in 1 day, but that besides the point. Don't criticize a show will all negative comments. If your going to criticize, you have to leaves it ups and downs, not says something like " shit show is shit." it's rathe annoying!


This is exactly how I feel. All that matters is how enjoyable something is to watch. I don't care if the story doesn't make sense 100% of the time. I don't care if the characters aren't very well developed. What I do care about is if I have a lot of fun watching it and I don't get bored... and nothing this season beats out Guilty Crown in pure enjoyment.


Well, let's say that for some people a show has to be somehow coherent and decently developed to be enjoyable.
 
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^ I seriously doubt that smart people would watch 22 episodes of a show if they didn't found it enjoyable. Moderately smart, at least.
 
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Having just watched episodes 13 and 14 of Persona 4, two of the episodes that he supposedly worked on, I really like his style. He employs a cute sense of humor, without getting in the way of the story or interfering with character development.

Now, it's important for the commenters to realize that this guy is not somehow responsible for all of P4, he's just some guy who did a few episodes here and there. Since the episodes he wrote are well-scripted, I'd say he has solid ground to stand on when criticizing the script of Guilty Crown. Of course, I feel like it's a bit of a low-hanging fruit (seriously, does anyone actually think the script of GC is good?), but I'm not surprised like he is. Even with the worst script in the world, if it's well-animated and visually impressive, it's going to have decent sales.
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well guilty crown was an anime that you could watch till epsiode 12. there the anime should have endet because after that the story made a downfall in quality and the charakters became shallow. the only good things after that is the soundtrack and a little bit of the graphics. i'm know at epsiode 17 and i'm really just watching it now because i don't want to dropp an anime that i liked at the begining. persona 4 well as an anime when you don't know the game it hase some weak points but as a game adaption its one of the best i have seen so far.
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Monarch_Will said:
I see everyone posting on his thread right now is a Guilty Crown hater. If you people dislike a show this much, why send your own precious time posting negative comment.

I hear multiple comments about a poor plot.
Well to you guys, some people don't have the time to sit there and watch the show supper carefully to pick up all the irregularities that occur. I know I for one don't spend my time analyzing the show to such a level. When I watch an anime, I watch to enjoy my time. Is that what a show is for? It not suppose to make you think like your freaking aristotle or Plato of some sort. If you don't like, then don't watch it. You don't have to watch it and leave a raging comment behind. It was because of these raging comments that I did pick up the show when it was first release. I saw bad reviews and was like, I'll hold off on this. After I did pick it up, it was a type of show that I couldn't even put down. I finished 20 episodes in 1 day, but that besides the point. Don't criticize a show will all negative comments. If your going to criticize, you have to leaves it ups and downs, not says something like " shit show is shit." it's rathe annoying!

Cliche?
You who really gives a fuck! Excuse my harsh language. People do what sells and there is a reason why it sells. It works. Right? Ingenuity is not always a good nothing, but most of the time it is. But, if you want something that you know will work, just go with what has been done.

In the end, I we head back on topic, what thus person said is way out of line, and should not have been done. But that serves the sands for everyone who leaves only a balant negative comment.


^THIS. HATERS TO THE LEFT.

Seriously. Is this a Guilty Crown hate thread? No. Stop wasting your time here. I understand that you all have your own opinion, but there is a limit. To. Everything.

I watch to enjoy. I mean seriously. While I watch, I don't go thinking, "THE FUCK?! Why is that girl wearing those clothes? WOAH, were did that come from? OH MY GOD HE PULLED IT OUT OF HER CHEST LULZ MY STOMACH HURTS."

But I can be analytic as well. Why not? The original setting is a skeleton. It's been used by other animes as well. It's like a base-line. But GC builds on it with an amazing amount of plot and story, that I have seen in no other anime before.

GC has an amazing amount of symbolism, and connections. Personally, I love connections in a story. It makes it like 100%... no 1000% more interesting. I've seen GC being compared to animes that it doesn't deserved to be compared to, because hell, GC is way better. Personally, I think it's better than P4 too, in terms of plot build up, excitement, and everything. I have been with GC FROM THE END OF JULY. BEFORE IT EVEN CAME OUT. IF IT REALLY DISAPPOINTED ME, I WOULD HAVE DROPPED IT BY NOW. I'm sure everyone has a different level of tolerance than me. But still.

What's wrong with GC's script? Sure, it has cliches. Name me at least 10+ animes that don't. I love the way it's written. The character development in GC is absolutely amazing and jaw-dropping. Shu went from weak-semi weak-strong-ruthless-caring-sacrificing. I was shocked. I felt so terrible for him, and all that he had to go through.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT GC HATERS. Go and... eat dinner or something.
 
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Personnally, I enjoyed both anime's quite a lot. Must be something wrong with me I guess. :/
 
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Personnally, I enjoyed both anime's quite a lot. Must be something wrong with me I guess. :/


There's nothing wrong with you. That's your opinion.

Even though I do think that GC is like 10x better than P4, I still really like P4.
 
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GC's ending could have been a bit better, but I still like it. A great series for the mecha/sci-fi fangirl within me. No where near as good as Gundam or Code Geass, but still a fun watch.
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Guilty Crown was the prettiest disaster of a trainwreck I have ever seen. It was so bad, it was entertaining. Persona 4 at least had characters who weren't pointless prop ups and plot devices. I rest my case.
 
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Am I the only one here who thinks Guilty Crown has a great story? I was thoroughly impressed and loved all the various symbolism. A nice, original, story on power and corruption with more than enough twists to keep you on the edge of your seat. This is the kind of story that grabs hold and never lets go. In a way, it reminds me of Neon Genesis, RahXephon, and Serial Experiments Lain. I'm sure the story will stick with me for months to come. So far, this year, it's the one to beat.

While I love Persona 4 (the game), the main reason I fell in love with it was because of the original staff (scenario writer/concept, director, etc). I'll admit, I haven't seen much of the anime yet, but it's just an adaption. I'll take an original story over an adaption almost any day of the week.
 
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Deardrops said:
NeoBasch said:
Am I the only one here who thinks Guilty Crown has a great story? I was thoroughly impressed and loved all the various symbolism. A nice, original, story on power and corruption with more than enough twists to keep you on the edge of your seat. This is the kind of story that grabs hold and never lets go. In a way, it reminds me of Neon Genesis, RahXephon, and Serial Experiments Lain. I'm sure the story will stick with me for months to come. So far, this year, it's the one to beat.

While I love Persona 4 (the game), the main reason I fell in love with it was because of the original staff (scenario writer/concept, director, etc). I'll admit, I haven't seen much of the anime yet, but it's just an adaption. I'll take an original story over an adaption almost any day of the week.


I suggest you don't watch the adaption, it was the shittiest thing i have ever seen, They made Kanji even more gay and they threw in tons of Yaoi vibes, heck i just watched episode 25 and i'm almost convinced Yuu (MC) x Yousuke is a canon couple, seriously, this idiot has no right to complain about other artists's works, Guilty crown is 10x better than Persona 4 (The animation).
Why didn't they adapt Persona 3? FFS it would have turned out MUCH better.
I'm sure we would have totally loved the Shittiest December ever and the crappy friends Minato made all the while spending glued to his earphones 24/7.

 
Apr 2, 2012 6:48 PM

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Am I the only one here who thinks Guilty Crown has a great story? I was thoroughly impressed and loved all the various symbolism. A nice, original, story on power and corruption with more than enough twists to keep you on the edge of your seat. This is the kind of story that grabs hold and never lets go. In a way, it reminds me of Neon Genesis, RahXephon, and Serial Experiments Lain. I'm sure the story will stick with me for months to come. So far, this year, it's the one to beat.

While I love Persona 4 (the game), the main reason I fell in love with it was because of the original staff (scenario writer/concept, director, etc). I'll admit, I haven't seen much of the anime yet, but it's just an adaption. I'll take an original story over an adaption almost any day of the week.


Nope. :'D GC has an absolutely amazing story. I felt like a little part of me died on the inside when it was over. TT.TT
 
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Deardrops said:
Leon-Gun said:
Deardrops said:
NeoBasch said:
Am I the only one here who thinks Guilty Crown has a great story? I was thoroughly impressed and loved all the various symbolism. A nice, original, story on power and corruption with more than enough twists to keep you on the edge of your seat. This is the kind of story that grabs hold and never lets go. In a way, it reminds me of Neon Genesis, RahXephon, and Serial Experiments Lain. I'm sure the story will stick with me for months to come. So far, this year, it's the one to beat.

While I love Persona 4 (the game), the main reason I fell in love with it was because of the original staff (scenario writer/concept, director, etc). I'll admit, I haven't seen much of the anime yet, but it's just an adaption. I'll take an original story over an adaption almost any day of the week.


I suggest you don't watch the adaption, it was the shittiest thing i have ever seen, They made Kanji even more gay and they threw in tons of Yaoi vibes, heck i just watched episode 25 and i'm almost convinced Yuu (MC) x Yousuke is a canon couple, seriously, this idiot has no right to complain about other artists's works, Guilty crown is 10x better than Persona 4 (The animation).
Why didn't they adapt Persona 3? FFS it would have turned out MUCH better.
I'm sure we would have totally loved the Shittiest December ever and the crappy friends Minato made all the while spending glued to his earphones 24/7.


At least P3's plot and characters were much better, decent character development and one of the best endings i've ever seen in a video game.
Great ending and epilogue, yes. Good character development before The End and Operation Aigis? Not so much.

 
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^P3 wasn't the first to use the heroic sacrifice ending though. I know a pretty old story that does that too, it's called The Bible. And yes, I'm being a little sarcastic but just saying, nothing absolutely groundbreaking. It's a great ending, just that.

Persona 4's end went the other way and instead of taking the normal Persona way of "everything is fucked up and the hero has to make sacrifices at the end" (be they losing their memories, being forgotten, erased from the normal world, etc) they went with a more upbeat tale of humans showing they can struggle onwards and live happily.
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Regarding GC, I think I can clear up a misunderstanding. The "haters" I know, including myself, were once hopeful. We WANTED this show to be good, damn it.

People act like we were rooting for it to fail from episode 1! That's not true at all. I was very excited about this series, and episode 1 was good enough as an introduction to keep me excited. It never reached the level it should have though, and after reaching the half-way point we get this gigantic RESET in the story where almost every changes sides - often with zero motivation to do so.

It's not like we're upset that it had a huge budget while other series didn't, it's that even WITH such a great team and a huge budget PLUS the freedom of the noitamina time-slot they created an utterly generic shonen with boring action, characters you don't care about, and a terrible story.
 
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I thought this was old news but whatever..
I personally enjoyed both shows.. they have good & bad sides though

regarding P3, as much I want to see the adaptation (P2 & P4 are still my favourites LOL)
the chances are very unlikely after the whole Trinity Soul debacle & right now Atlus only focusing expanding P4, P2 remake & P5 in development...
 
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P2 remake? didn't they remake it already?


P2: Eternal Punishment remake for psp

I must say that P3 & P4 have VERY different themes... it just hard to compare to each other..& thats the reason the ending for both games DIFFERENT in many ways

P3 was all about death & how you accept it while P4 is to accept yourself & live your life to the fullest..

 
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