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First Dubbed Episode of Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica to be Streamed in 6 Countries
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02-02-12, 6:26 PM

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I wonder how sales would do in the US without subbed voices.
 
02-02-12, 6:34 PM

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mdz said:
I wonder how sales would do in the US without subbed voices.


Dunno. But we'll never find out since it's getting a dual audio release.
 
02-02-12, 6:53 PM

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Redfoxoffire said:
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lol dub hating in here

This is why I was hesitant to post it. It always happens at a place like MAL.

Anyway, ANN's early review gave the dub a pretty good score, so I'll do my best to go in with an open mind. It won't be easy after having already watched it subbed twice.
I've seen the trailer and thought it was okay. But after seeing the separate VA videos for each character (Kyouko's and Kyubey's have yet to be posted), I feel like they've done a great job with the dubbing (so far).
 
02-02-12, 7:11 PM

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real dub
 
02-02-12, 7:20 PM

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destructo22 said:
lol dub hating in here


I know what you mean. The dub isn't for people who already watched the sub anyway lol. I watched the trailer and it was ok, but the ending song dubbed sounded pretty sweet.
 
02-02-12, 7:28 PM
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shadowtsunami said:
destructo22 said:
lol dub hating in here


I know what you mean. The dub isn't for people who already watched the sub anyway lol. I watched the trailer and it was ok, but the ending song dubbed sounded pretty sweet.

Wait.

Are you saying they dubbed over Kalafina?

That is unforgivable.
 
02-02-12, 8:02 PM

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Redfoxoffire said:
shadowtsunami said:
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lol dub hating in here


I know what you mean. The dub isn't for people who already watched the sub anyway lol. I watched the trailer and it was ok, but the ending song dubbed sounded pretty sweet.

Wait.

Are you saying they dubbed over Kalafina?

That is unforgivable.

O_O

Surely not. I mean, they didn't do it for K-ON which would have far more meaning (but still terrible), and they surely don't think the American VAs can outdo Kalafina.
 
02-02-12, 8:41 PM
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O_O

Surely not. I mean, they didn't do it for K-ON which would have far more meaning (but still terrible), and they surely don't think the American VAs can outdo Kalafina.

K-ON had some of the same voice actresses but was done by a different company (Bandai, and this is Aniplex of America), so that doesn't really mean anything.
 
02-02-12, 9:27 PM

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I just wanna know who's dubbing Mami. I'm only watching episode 3 of this, after all.


http://myanimelist.net/people/1435/Carolyn_Keranen

Thanks bunches.
A good choice, imo. ^^=
 
02-02-12, 9:57 PM

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I'm sorry. But I'm just against dubs. It's not that the American voice actresses don't try, but they just can't pull off the same character vibe as their Japanese counterparts. What irks me the most is how the say Japanese names in English phonemes and it just sounds so unnatural...

Frankly, the Japanese voice actors convey far more emotion in their scenes. It's OK for anime like K-ON, but it destroys the atmosphere in a more plot-oriented, serious anime like Madoka.
 
02-02-12, 10:09 PM

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Has dubbing in the eyes and ears of most long-term anime fans been every good?

Don't answer cos that was rhetorical.
 
02-02-12, 10:20 PM

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I'm sorry. But I'm just against dubs. It's not that the American voice actresses don't try, but they just can't pull off the same character vibe as their Japanese counterparts. What irks me the most is how the say Japanese names in English phonemes and it just sounds so unnatural...

Frankly, the Japanese voice actors convey far more emotion in their scenes. It's OK for anime like K-ON, but it destroys the atmosphere in a more plot-oriented, serious anime like Madoka.


It sounds like you're watching mediocre dubs.
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02-02-12, 11:03 PM

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Omniknight said:
It's OK for anime like K-ON, but it destroys the atmosphere in a more plot-oriented, serious anime like Madoka.


If the K-ON! dub was ok by your standards I'd hate to hear a dub you think is bad.
 
02-02-12, 11:09 PM

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Haters gonna hate. I'm personally going to listen to the dub, and chances are, enjoy it.
 
02-02-12, 11:32 PM

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Omniknight said:
What irks me the most is how the say Japanese names in English phonemes and it just sounds so unnatural...

Frankly, the Japanese voice actors convey far more emotion in their scenes. It's OK for anime like K-ON, but it destroys the atmosphere in a more plot-oriented, serious anime like Madoka.


Just like how Japanese VAs almost always screw up english names right????

And Sometimes they convey TOO MUCH emotion. For example HOTD. The japanese VA try to make it way too serious for an anime that isn't in the slightest "serious". The english dub made it way more funnier and laid back which suited HOTD much better. There's a lot more examples like this.

Some people are way to bias and think most dubs suck because they pail in comparison to the original, without comparing them on their own. Dubs are for most of the time average to good, and most people complaining about that they suck haven't seen a badly dubbed anime before lol.

For instance I remember on Fairy tail scene, a guy complained saying that Erza said ""Ahhhaa" instead of "Kya", and another person came and said who says "Kya" in english, on top of that the whole entire scene was pretty much the same. But he focus on that one aspect saying that the dubbed suck. See what I mean, bias for no reason whatsoever.
 
02-03-12, 12:17 AM

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And Sometimes they convey TOO MUCH emotion. For example HOTD. The japanese VA try to make it way too serious for an anime that isn't in the slightest "serious". The english dub made it way more funnier and laid back which suited HOTD much better.

That isn't an issue with the VAs, that's just your taste in humor. Ridiculous things delivered in a serious tone is funny to some people, but not you apparently.
Edit: Really, if you think about it it makes sense why they'd do that for HOTD. Where else does it seem like the actors are being overly dramatic in spite of whats happening in the plot? Cheesy horror films! Guess what a lot of cheesy horror films have in them? Zombies! I think you get the point.
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02-03-12, 12:46 AM

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While it's sort of just "more of the same" at this point, I think all the zombie apocalypse scenarios have desensitized us a bit. Is it really possible to be -overly- dramatic in the event of a zombie apocalypse? I don't know about you, but to me? A zombie apocalypse? It's kind of a big deal. I'd be dramatic as all hell. XD

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With as much hate as dubs get, I wouldn't think many people would want to make a career in anime dubs, or that there's as much demand for such VAs, compared to other media. Without sufficient supply and demand, where exactly would you get variety, anyway? Plus, without the resulting competition, I can't imagine passion for the part would be a huge requirement for landing roles, either.

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Basically, it strikes me as a vicious cycle. Low quality dubs resulting from a small VA pool result in more hate for dubs, reducing demand for dubs, reducing desire to produce dubs as well as the demand for VAs, resulting in the VA pool remaining too small to support the competition necessary to produce a lot of quality VAs. The few really good VAs could also end up being spread too thin and re-used too often as a result, adding further fuel to the "no variety in English dubs" arguments.

Mind, I'm not saying all VAs are bad VAs, or that all dubs are low quality. I'm also not saying that rushing out to buy every dubbed series ever would necessarily help the situation (nor am I saying it would hurt it). It might lead to more bad dubs, more good dubs, more demand for VAs, or just a lot more re-use of the VAs people seem to like.

Disclaimer: I have no idea what the industry is actually like internally. This is all just speculation. Also, full disclosure: I prefer subs, and pretty much hate watching dubs (and not just anime dubs), but don't think "all dubs need to die in a fire".
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02-03-12, 12:49 AM

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MadDogV2 said:
shadowtsunami said:
And Sometimes they convey TOO MUCH emotion. For example HOTD. The japanese VA try to make it way too serious for an anime that isn't in the slightest "serious". The english dub made it way more funnier and laid back which suited HOTD much better.

That isn't an issue with the VAs, that's just your taste in humor. Ridiculous things delivered in a serious tone is funny to some people, but not you apparently.
Edit: Really, if you think about it it makes sense why they'd do that for HOTD. Where else does it seem like the actors are being overly dramatic in spite of whats happening in the plot? Cheesy horror films! Guess what a lot of cheesy horror films have in them? Zombies! I think you get the point.

Problem is they weren't being overly dramatic though lol. However, I do get your point. It's not like Ridiculous being turned Serious, or vice versa isn't bad or anything but the way they deliver it is just awkward or something.
 
02-03-12, 12:56 AM

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Herp derp I can't even watch the trailer in my god forsaken, central/eastern-european country
 
02-03-12, 1:10 AM

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dubbed episodes are crap - would much rather they would broadcast subbed - why get rid of the original amazing work by by japanese seiyuu with a crap english dub? the only reason to watch dubbed episode are if you can't read..........
 
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