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Jan 30, 2012 1:24 PM

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loved each second of this episode.
Jan 30, 2012 2:38 PM

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Plot happened last episode; fan service happened this episode.
Louise hasn't developed much (in terms of character, not... that way) but Siesta seems to have gotten more bold and lively. I never had a favorite character in the show up until now. Siesta takes the spot for actually having character development and not acting the same for 3 freaking seasons.
Jan 30, 2012 4:00 PM

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LEGOF said:

Louise hasn't developed much (in terms of character, not... that way) but Siesta seems to have gotten more bold and lively. I never had a favorite character in the show up until now. Siesta takes the spot for actually having character development and not acting the same for 3 freaking seasons.

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Jan 31, 2012 6:26 AM

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This episode was filled much more with ecchi but it’s the way it was meant to be. Funny and its setup reflecting that. In that I am delighted to say I laughed my way into Kirche’s breast fondling and that of Siesta’s teasing with them of Saito. Contrary to the annoying setups of season 3. Makes a difference. To that effect easily my favourite of Louise is the following,

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Best MOE, funny and visually pleasing scene of Louise. Everything is perfect into that one part including DAT FANG as they say.

I have to say the second most touching part was the following,

Manly tears T_T of happiness for Tabitha take 2. It has been the best for me this last season of seeing her happy. I am glad to be emotional for her since the shit and suffering she passed through 3 seasons.

About the preview, am I the only who is sick worried over the spoiler
??? OMG Henrietta getting serious and fan service of her? Well she was the biggest breasted one other than Kirche till Tiffania came. Not the first time but it looks to me the situation is out more of her free will. Last I remember there were circumstances that made them serious together and into situation. But now it looks like real love? I hope not. But the preview shows Louise will see this! Shit! That’s bad! If it was not Siesta that interrupted next might be the Queen who breaks it? NO WAY! May edit later.

BTW The intermission in the spoiler
Siesta + pet of Tabitha in humanoid form? Interesting.

PS: I did not have time to do anything of this series much. Been swamped IRL and doing random stuff here and there around this community. Will try to leave out some stuff around the club. Still I really regret it. This is show is the best of all its predecessors TBH. Best OP and ED hands down. Best BGM! Best Louise visuals. Best setups only dreamed of in this series. Need I say more of my regret of not doing some graphics of this series? Well there is one at least now. Well let's hope I get some time to have fun graphically with this series.

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Jan 31, 2012 8:55 AM

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Beautiful episode until Siesta showed up.

Malicorne was super hilarious again! XD

Bwaaaah I can't wait for the next episode..

Jan 31, 2012 7:01 PM

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Modified by Kimura, Feb 2, 2012 1:09 PM
Jan 31, 2012 11:40 PM

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ProBoner said:
Elite60 said:
It was nice to see ....something something something . Not much happened this episode but not surprising after all the action that occurred the last two episodes.

Dude, that was obviously a spoiler right there. Considering you are only the third poster for ep4, it's safe to assume few people have watched it at this point.

As others have said before, you don't go into a discussion thread without seeing the episode first and not expecting spoilers in the thread about what happened. I mean the whole point of a discussion thread is to discuss what happened in the episode.

Besides, there wasn't any huge spoilers in this episode anyways.
Feb 1, 2012 5:07 AM

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Charlotte's mother is actually pretty & I am amazed about Tabitha being the queen.
Feb 1, 2012 12:29 PM

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I think that Charlotte being the new Queen of Gallia, it's story enough on this episode.
I personally don't really like Saito x Louise, although it's the focus of the story, that's why I enjoy Siesta and the other girls being so pushy with Saito.
Also, Saito x Henrietta is better. Next episode is probably going to be pure winning.
Feb 1, 2012 3:24 PM

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Louise and Saito were having a sweet moment, but then Siesta had to go and ruin in. Damn you, Siesta >_<

Also, so far Louise seems to have become way nicer than in the previous seasons, I love it, but of course some characters have to come and ruin that.

Louise is so sweet <3
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Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM

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I liked the episode...not sure where the story is going now? I would just like closure on saitoxlouise. Maybe after 3 seasons things can actually come to an ending. Love this couple though ^_^
Feb 2, 2012 11:49 PM

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So I was pretty much extremely disappointed to see that the preview in episode 3 hinted at a bed scene when it was really just a 2 second daydream.

But it was a really good episode anyway. I loved Maricorn's teasing hahaha. Melon and Lemon-chan. Siesta not finding that Kirche and Ikeepforgettingmontmorency'sgirlfriend'sname reenacting Saito and Tiffa odd, was concerning but it was also funny.

Siesta is really being a b*tch. I really find her annoying but she's sometimes funny. For example: Saito and Lousie making out on the bed and suddenly they find out Siesta is under them. Awkward moment for the win! I really cracked up there.

I like how they reenacted the worst play in existence with the Tres Bien dude. He's my second favorite character.

I'm curious as to what will happen with Tabitha, and annoyed they all want to sleep in the same bed. I'm waiting for them to continue where they left off!!
Feb 3, 2012 10:28 PM

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Am I the only one here who still likes Siesta? I don't know why Louise annoyed me in this episode since she's usually my favorite. I seem to like all the girls in the series minus Kirche.

I called it since the end of the 2nd season. I knew that they were not married and they admitted it.

Looks like Henrietta gets some time with Saito in the next episode.
Feb 3, 2012 11:20 PM

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prismheart said:
Saito's indecisiveness when girls throw themselves at him used to be funny, but after three seasons and a few episodes it's kind of meh.
BULLDOG266 said:
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InfiniteDestiny said:
Good episode... but wasn't there suppose to be like a lot of stuff to cover? so episodes like this don't really help since there is so few episodes to work with as it is;

All this. The episode was cute and all, it just felt very unnecessary and a total waste of time, especially when there far more interesting and important stuff going on. I'm also growing quite tried of continuously seeing all the girls throw themselves at Saito, we've seen enough of that from previous seasons. I've stuck with this series for this long because of its story and the unique and interesting aspects of the world of ZnT, hoping to see more. While the harm/romantic comedy elements made the series added to the fun, its now to the point where its annoying.

The first 3 episodes, while they could have been executed better, they restored my faith in this series and returned to what made me enjoy it in the first place. Unfortunately, with this episode my faith has weened.

I'll keep watching, as I have gotten this far and I want to see it till the end, plus i'm already enjoying this season ALOT more so far than the last one. I just hope they get their priorities straight and focus on the stuff thats far more interesting/important to watch for the remaining episodes they have instead of unnecessary crap like this.
Feb 4, 2012 12:15 PM

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Well, none of us can honestly be surprised by big amounts of romance/ecchi comedy in ZnT - especially not after the last season before this. It's always been an integral part of the show, even though it's certainly a bit reckless when there are only 9 episodes left.

In other news, Siesta is a genius. Too bad her brilliance is wasted on messing with the official couple with basically 0% chance of success. I like how she always outsmarts the others, but her meddling is not only unethical but also redundant at this point.

Talking about relationship issues: This episode it became crystal-clear to me that Saito instantly turns into a complete idiot as soon as a girl's feelings for him are involved. In all other aspects he's really smart and considerate and far above average for a male character, but his complete lack of empathy in that area is truly appalling. You could scream "I love you!" at his face and he still wouldn't understand. I know he's just not allowed to understand because it makes the writer's job easier, but it makes him very unattractive in my view - which is a major problem when he's supposed to be popular. Just being a heroic fighter doesn't cut it for me.

I still like seeing Louise being annoyed by all of this ^^ but I remain worried about this show. Maybe I've just seen too many harem comedies in the meantime...
Feb 6, 2012 6:07 PM

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kinda boring.

god why is Louise the main girl? she's so stupid and lame. complete shit tier compared to Tabitha or Siesta or Tiffa or ANYONE else. Louise is THE SUCK. at least let the guy have a harem if you are going to be an annoying bitchy loli forever.
Feb 11, 2012 6:07 AM

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siesta should GTFO xD
Feb 12, 2012 7:48 AM

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It was nice when Saito tells Louise all thr stuff but Siesta had to ruin it
It was funny when Louise said tht their new mansion looks like a haunted house but its looks good inside
Feb 12, 2012 10:25 AM

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bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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Feb 22, 2012 7:13 AM

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Cratex said:
LEGOF said:

Louise hasn't developed much (in terms of character, not... that way) but Siesta seems to have gotten more bold and lively. I never had a favorite character in the show up until now. Siesta takes the spot for actually having character development and not acting the same for 3 freaking seasons.

(wanders in room, sees comment, scrunches face up in concentration, thinks, concludes it's a valid point, sadly shakes head, pretends he didn't see it, and wanders out of the room)

Episode was nice.
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Feb 22, 2012 10:37 PM

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This show just have to throw in all the fan-service possible... It's fine to have fan-services, but gosh... don't dedicate a whole episode on it.

Show certainly dropped the ball after season 2...
Feb 23, 2012 6:25 PM

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First time sein Tabitha cry :O
She's so cute :P
Feb 28, 2012 11:21 PM

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Mamiko Noto looked stunning in her dress.
The rest of the episode was boring though...
Mar 5, 2012 6:07 AM

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Kuroiichi said:
Fuck you Siesta, why do you _always_ need to come in their way ):<

I'll be mad if we don't get some proper SaitoxLouise before this show ends >__>

yeah tell me about it, Siesta is the most annoying character ever. Pretty much the only reason im watching the Zero no Tsukaima series is to see Siesta's reaction when saito tells her to fuck off lol (hopefully something like that happens xD)
Mar 24, 2012 10:47 AM

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Oh yay Tabitha's mom is back to normal. Also lol'd at her just jumping in and quietly declaring she's moving in, it was just outta nowhere.

I love it when Louise is in that dress with that hairdo, she looks so nice in that. Dno why but I found her cuter than usual this episode. Haha Louise is the one who gets left out on the bed. And damn it Siesta!
Mar 25, 2012 6:47 PM

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Man you guys are too negative. What are you actually wanting from this series? Action? Well it was more of a romance comedy to begin with. (with some mild action I guess) Anyways, I for one enjoyed this episode. I can't seem to get rid of this really gay smile while watching this Anime, its just too funny. :(
Apr 12, 2012 7:26 PM

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It was so happy, I loved it! =)

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Jul 27, 2012 10:33 AM

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Enjoyable episode, i cant imagine where the season is going to go from here since joeseph is dead, it might be just filled with fan service and useless plot but i dont mind lol.
Aug 27, 2012 12:06 PM

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LOL nice ep, loved it.
"I moved in" ... "Good Night" that made my day XD
Pretty fun episode, guess next one will be more serious.
Sep 15, 2013 3:33 AM

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I wish Siesta would back the fuck off, I can't stand her. Such a bitch.
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Oct 10, 2013 7:31 AM

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louise is cute in this ep 5/5
Nov 22, 2013 8:04 AM

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Funniest part : The part where Saito and Louise were about to kiss and then out came Maricorne's stare. The sound effect was awesome too wahaha.
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Jun 10, 2014 3:44 AM

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Saito>everyone else
Jun 17, 2014 3:54 PM

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Damn, it really feel like everyone is trying to cockblock Louise xD
Seriously, can't someone accept that she have already won the harem?
Tabitha arrival was hilarious though. Poor Louise...
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Aug 7, 2014 10:20 PM

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Well I feel like this is going better than season 3 so far. But I really hate how everyone is still tryna grab Saito's dick and shit. IT'S FOR LOUISE. and why doesn't Saito say anything to stop the other girls? I don't know. :/
Dec 7, 2014 8:54 AM

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Huh pretty boring, Louse is still awful.
Jan 24, 2015 6:38 AM

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First of all, when Louise dreams of herself and Saito in a GIGANTIC manor, even though Saito said "It doesn't have to be a big one".
I also don't understand why the queen would give Saito a completely broken down manor in the middle of nowhere, and does the queen even still like him??
And when are we going to find out wether or not Saito can or will become Tiffania's familiar?
May 19, 1:53 AM

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Good episode, looks like they've got a fix-er-upper. They'll also be paying for any explosion damage from now on!

Still loving the hell out of the ED.
May 23, 4:41 AM

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AWWWWW Such Kawaii Episode...

Saito soo good with words, then Malicorne cook blocked Saito at the kiss (I’m dead) xD and even by Seista.. Poor saito.... lol

We do get lots of side stories ish in this one, like Tabitha's mother got her “heart” back/ taking over the throne and maybe become a queen, n Saito n Louise gonna find a house/mansion,kinda the main, meh.. (also the second time Louise and Seista working together xD ) but we get a haunted mansion…

Lemon/Melon/Coconut/pineapple-chan Uhuhuhuh
Jun 2, 5:37 AM

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It seems that the 'Harem' is finally 'official' (for me) . I thoroughly support it ~ .
Man's instincts are powerful ~ . Anyways , all kinds of fruit have its own taste ~ .
Very great episode . Great for Charlotte and also , Saito the Hero <3 !!
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