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View Poll Results: Shakugan no Shana III (Final) Episode 16 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
40 45.45%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
27 30.68%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
15 17.05%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
3 3.41%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
3 3.41%
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01-27-12, 9:05 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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We enter a break from all the fighting this week, hey its been a long time since we have seen Shana enjoying some nice warm melon bread.
It was good seeing everyone making their resolve to continue to fight, even though I side with Yuji on this war and wish him to succeed I dont believe the flame haze's reasons for fighting are wrong either.



Also we finally see the ED, its got some pretty awesome illustrations!
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01-27-12, 12:14 PM

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Much more calm episode without fighting but it's still awesome. We also could see that Pheles won't just sit and watch what will happen. And yeah next time we are back to Misaki :)

I liked ED animations especialy the one that Game shown above :)

Oh and here it is:

 
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01-27-12, 12:52 PM

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Other than Pheles's brief screen time and the new ED there wasn't much to be excited about this week.

Also, I kind of wish that they would have had more time to add more material. They just threw out the fact that Sale was an artificial flame haze. Hopefully there is an OVA or something in the future.
 
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01-27-12, 1:21 PM

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Just a quick question, what happened to Kazumi? Did she use that cross that Pheles gave her and disappear from existence? Did I miss something? Or are they just leavig her out because this is Shana x Yuji. c:
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01-27-12, 1:42 PM

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SilentMelodies said:
Just a quick question, what happened to Kazumi?

You will see her in some future. Just wait a little :)
 
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01-27-12, 2:46 PM

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Well I think the episode had a bit of a dark feel, from Pheles' scene in the beginning... to the possessed mailman... to Chiara and Sale, both of whom I still don't understand their characters. Even Shana was a bit mysterious.

And finally the ED, and it ended with a disappearing torch... interesting.
 
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01-27-12, 3:00 PM

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Hong Kong in detail!
I was surprised that it is so similar to the real thing :O

However i'm glad that they've finally come back to the real world.
Misaki City should be the place of the end and we've already 2/3 of the show over...


 
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01-27-12, 3:28 PM

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I found it dull to be honest.

It seemed that Shana just wanted them to fight for the sake of fighting. Fighting the possibility that a disaster "might" happen in thousands of years just felt dumb to me.

Lost alot of respect points for her there and they have been dwindling all season...I swear she must be blind but I suppose I can expect no less from a tool of the Flame Hazes.


 
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01-27-12, 3:33 PM

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i wonder what's gonna happen next week the episode preview suggests interesting developments happening in misaki. I wonder if Yuji's parents will ever remember him.
"Even if the Morrow is Barren of promises Nothing shall Forestall my Return."
 
01-27-12, 4:12 PM

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Omg. Episode 16/24 already. This has been a great series by far - I can't believe it's almost over! I still remember when I first watched season 1 and completely fell in love with the Anime! :( I'll miss SnS!
 
01-27-12, 6:06 PM

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I find the 3 god of earth bit different from what i imagined. They are more... friendly looking. And I keep wondering why Yuji never activates his sword (bls... something). If he activates it it can reflect damage back right? Or is it just shana learned how to counter that?
 
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Shana and melon bread... Never gets old. :)
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01-27-12, 6:11 PM

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i am completely lost ... gotta start rewatching from the beginning of season 3
 
01-27-12, 6:33 PM

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Riptos said:
I found it dull to be honest.

It seemed that Shana just wanted them to fight for the sake of fighting. Fighting the possibility that a disaster "might" happen in thousands of years just felt dumb to me.

Lost alot of respect points for her there and they have been dwindling all season...I swear she must be blind but I suppose I can expect no less from a tool of the Flame Hazes.


This, whatever chance Flame Haze's have for honestly redeeming themselves seem like it's is going out the window and is instead going to be "redeemed" by some broken plot twist. All of the Flame Haze's this episode gave no reason in there times of "individual" thought where they were suppose to gather their "thoughts"; to the point that i couldn't help but smile when Wilhelmina was thinking that they all fight for their own different reasons... there reasons were pretty much all this... we started this worthless fight so now even though it became evident that we don't need to fight we should see it through till the end! Shana was the worst saying when relating to this like you said that she doesn't like Yuji's optimism because in a couple thousand years something might happen... heck the world could go to hell tomorrow and she is against it because it might happen in a few thousand years... :/.
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01-27-12, 6:43 PM

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I'm just glad to see Pheles again.
 
01-27-12, 7:25 PM

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This is friggin bullshit.

Damage to the worlds is caused by Denizens eating humans, forcing Sonzai no Chikara into an unstable state. Ok, accepted.

So if all Denizens were to live in Xanadu(where there aren't ANY humans at all) all three worlds would experience great disaster in the distance future? GOD WHERE IS THE LINK?
 
01-27-12, 7:56 PM

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newnar said:
This is friggin bullshit.

Damage to the worlds is caused by Denizens eating humans, forcing Sonzai no Chikara into an unstable state. Ok, accepted.

So if all Denizens were to live in Xanadu(where there aren't ANY humans at all) all three worlds would experience great disaster in the distance future? GOD WHERE IS THE LINK?


Link= Flame Haze's sheer stupidity.

They say if they continue to act like they do here (Earth) in the new world there will be the supposed disaster, but like you mentioned with no humans, and no need to consume existence since the world would be full of it, their logic is seriously broken.
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InfiniteDestiny said:
newnar said:
This is friggin bullshit.

Damage to the worlds is caused by Denizens eating humans, forcing Sonzai no Chikara into an unstable state. Ok, accepted.

So if all Denizens were to live in Xanadu(where there aren't ANY humans at all) all three worlds would experience great disaster in the distance future? GOD WHERE IS THE LINK?


Link= Flame Haze's sheer stupidity.

They say if they continue to act like they do here (Earth) in the new world there will be the supposed disaster, but like you mentioned with no humans, and no need to consume existence since the world would be full of it, their logic is seriously broken.

Agreed. That's what I was thinking too! How the crap are they going to act the way they do here if there are no humans to begin with in their new world?

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01-27-12, 11:54 PM

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BULLDOG266 said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
newnar said:
This is friggin bullshit.

Damage to the worlds is caused by Denizens eating humans, forcing Sonzai no Chikara into an unstable state. Ok, accepted.

So if all Denizens were to live in Xanadu(where there aren't ANY humans at all) all three worlds would experience great disaster in the distance future? GOD WHERE IS THE LINK?


Link= Flame Haze's sheer stupidity.

They say if they continue to act like they do here (Earth) in the new world there will be the supposed disaster, but like you mentioned with no humans, and no need to consume existence since the world would be full of it, their logic is seriously broken.

Agreed. That's what I was thinking too! How the crap are they going to act the way they do here if there are no humans to begin with in their new world?

SHANA Y U NO USE COMMON SENSE?! <img src="http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2435/94393740.png" />


I think you guys have misunderstood abt the New World. There ARE humans there. In fact, as the novel indicates, it is the exact clone of the present world, with only two exceptions 1) Yuji's home town is missing (for a specific reason) and 2) power of Existence flow freely.

So technically speaking, the Denizens in the new world can gain power of existence freely without resorting to consuming humans. The key is - They need not consume humans in the new world, but it is different from saying that they cannot consume humans if they choose to.
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01-28-12, 1:45 AM

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calvinlo said:
BULLDOG266 said:
InfiniteDestiny said:
newnar said:
This is friggin bullshit.

Damage to the worlds is caused by Denizens eating humans, forcing Sonzai no Chikara into an unstable state. Ok, accepted.

So if all Denizens were to live in Xanadu(where there aren't ANY humans at all) all three worlds would experience great disaster in the distance future? GOD WHERE IS THE LINK?


Link= Flame Haze's sheer stupidity.

They say if they continue to act like they do here (Earth) in the new world there will be the supposed disaster, but like you mentioned with no humans, and no need to consume existence since the world would be full of it, their logic is seriously broken.

Agreed. That's what I was thinking too! How the crap are they going to act the way they do here if there are no humans to begin with in their new world?

SHANA Y U NO USE COMMON SENSE?! <img src="http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2435/94393740.png" />


I think you guys have misunderstood abt the New World. There ARE humans there. In fact, as the novel indicates, it is the exact clone of the present world, with only two exceptions 1) Yuji's home town is missing (for a specific reason) and 2) power of Existence flow freely.

So technically speaking, the Denizens in the new world can gain power of existence freely without resorting to consuming humans. The key is - They need not consume humans in the new world, but it is different from saying that they cannot consume humans if they choose to.


If what you say is true; you still provided the second reason for their stupidity in your statement; if it is an exact replica ( so all humans would be cloned?) and there are humans; its like you said their is free flowing existence; and most if not all Denizens like Pheles simply consume to survive, its not like they go and seek it; to disregard the entire concept simply because they might consume humans... give me a break, they refuse to actually use the bare minimum brain cells one should have to ask themselves the simple question what is the alternative? they might not care because they are prideful war mongrels like the nun but their "noble" war has gotten them nothing for hundreds of years. It's like they are OK with an eternity of fighting a battle with no ending; after that much time you would think they would see for themselves that nothing ever changed.
 
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