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What's so great about Bakemonogatari? (Need an answer)
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01-27-12, 8:13 AM

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As a person who didn't watch it when it was new, i always wondered why everyone jumps up and says Bakemonogatari is the best thing since sliced bread.

I watched it back in December 2011, before Nisemonogatari aired; and while i thought it was amusing, overall, i scratch my head over it's popularity.

I liked the show's style, the writing wasn't bad, and it had it's own share of "Oh Snap!" moments; but on the flip side, i didn't like or care about the characters, the pacing was slow, and nothing -aside from a few scenes- got me completely engaged in what was happening.

Look. I don't mean to cause a flame-war. This is just my opinion; and in the end, i would give it a good score.

But why Bakemonogatari has the popularity it has is just something that i need answered, since I'm watching Nisemonogatari as part of the Winter 2012 line-up, and I'm not liking it that much, so far.

EDIT: and before you say it, no i didn't find the characters to be unique; if anything, i could care less about them.
 
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01-27-12, 8:16 AM

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I also forgot to add a very important keyword in that last thread you made.

FANSERVICE.

Oh yeah forgot another



That should pretty much sum up why Bakemonogatari has the following it does.
 
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01-27-12, 8:19 AM

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I enjoy it.

The OST's quirky and fun; the conversations, wordplay, and banter are excellent; and the characters, while each possessing flaws and insecurities, are genuinely bro as fuck.
 
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01-27-12, 8:21 AM

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Homolust said:
I also forgot to add a very important keyword in that last thread you made.

FANSERVICE.

Oh yeah forgot another



That should pretty much sum up why Bakemonogatari has the following it does.


Fanservice huh? ...really, that's what else Bakemonogatari can give me? Weak.
 
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01-27-12, 8:28 AM

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From the previous thread:

Hollow334 said:
I didn't find the characters unique at all; could care less about them.

Then I guess that pretty much sums it up.

It's a given that if you don't like the characters in Bakemonogatari = you won't like the series.

This is all a matter of opinions, you might not like the show, but it is considered a good show by a majority of viewers.


First: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=394815&show=0#post1

Now it's on the correct board.

Second: If an anime is mostly reliant on "unique" characters that you could either like or not like, and everything else doesn't make up for it, or support it; than yeah... not for me.

Still, I'm open for other peoples opinions; though on the correct board of course.
 
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01-27-12, 8:30 AM

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Well, I really enjoyed the dialogue. I thought it was really unpredictable, very funny, and yet not forced at all, and I really admired how the mood of a conversation could shift so easily. I thought the characters were strong (you could make a case for Nadeko being weaker than the others) and had characteristics which linked nicely to the supernatural elements.

The main romance was great too. It wasn't really in-your-face, but it was the source of a lot of humour. When they decided to pull that humour back and bring out the sweetness of the romance, that really worked well for me in part because it was such a contrast to the general mood of the show.

Speaking of pulling things back, I felt that was another of Bakemonogatari's strengths - when the continuous stream of dialogue was interrupted by a flash of intense action, it really made the action sequences stand out. In cases like this, I really did feel as though less is more.

Hopefully this will answer your question somewhat. Oh, and here's a link to the Caring Continuum.
 
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01-27-12, 8:41 AM

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Well, I really enjoyed the dialogue. I thought it was really unpredictable, very funny, and yet not forced at all, and I really admired how the mood of a conversation could shift so easily. I thought the characters were strong (you could make a case for Nadeko being weaker than the others) and had characteristics which linked nicely to the supernatural elements.

The main romance was great too. It wasn't really in-your-face, but it was the source of a lot of humour. When they decided to pull that humour back and bring out the sweetness of the romance, that really worked well for me in part because it was such a contrast to the general mood of the show.

Speaking of pulling things back, I felt that was another of Bakemonogatari's strengths - when the continuous stream of dialogue was interrupted by a flash of intense action, it really made the action sequences stand out. In cases like this, I really did feel as though less is more.

Hopefully this will answer your question somewhat. Oh, and here's a link to the Caring Continuum.


I didn't feel for the romance at all. Yes, i know it's not supposed to be the typical romance, but i didn't find it to be that funny; if anything, it made Senjougahara a more unlikable character for me.

The only character that -i guess- i liked was Nadeko; at least she was really cute.

The action scenes were probably the main source of the "Oh Snap!" moments i experienced; and they were really awesome.

In the end, i found Bakemonogatari to be an anime with more Style than Substance; albeit with a -admittedly- unique style, which does kinda saves it.

 
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01-27-12, 8:46 AM

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It is the story in my opinion.
Most of the time it's about being rational vs idealistic.
The main character is being idealistic, wanting to help everybody with their apparitions problems without hurting anyone.
Another side it is to be rational, there is no way to make everyone happy without someone being hurt.
I think the story started to develop in Suruga's arc and got stronger towards the end. Ultimately, the problem was impossible to be solved without having someone getting hurt.
How they delivered the story was the aspect that kept me seated and curious to keep watching until the end.

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01-27-12, 8:53 AM

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Dialogue.

Being slow is Bakemonogatari's style.

Listen to the words. I wouldn't go as far as each word, but each line is something.

「みんながいるからだ。」 - 棗鈴
 
01-27-12, 8:57 AM

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Zmffkskem said:
Dialogue.

Being slow is Bakemonogatari's style.

Listen to the words. I wouldn't go as far as each word, but each line is something.


I did listen to the words; rich with style, but not enough substance for my taste.
 
01-27-12, 9:26 AM

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The fuss of shaft's *monogatari series is that:
- The usage of sarcasm, undertones, deadpans, memes and cross-references are well delivered and executed in the script/dialogues...the delivery of parodies are subtle yet precisely done too
- Senjougahara is a hybrid character which fascinated the otaku community. She has a non-cliche personality that her "mood swings" swing with the flow...lets say her transition from tsundere to yandere to kuudere(a rare anime occurence) binds smoothly through her conversations with araragi depicts her as one of those transitionally flexible characters in anime, script-wise/personality-wise...
- Studio Shaft has overhyped the series with a bang before day 1, seems it has been with an array of promotions to keep the anime masses interested...
- It had some sort of formula that made some random comedy anime into repute: flashing random visuals revolving around with a random background. This time around, the studio made this a lot more cleaner and sophisticated look(since people nowadays are in awe of high definition visuals)
-The harem formula of this anime was a modified one, and japanese love harem-oriented flicks. This gave them a breathe of fresh air, since their so-called modified harem formula was very unique to their taste that animus are fascinated...

To sum up, the series has an official adjective: Fascinating :)

 
01-27-12, 9:53 AM

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sauteed_roaches said:
The fuss of shaft's *monogatari series is that:
- The usage of sarcasm, undertones, deadpans, memes and cross-references are well delivered and executed in the script/dialogues...the delivery of parodies are subtle yet precisely done too
- Senjougahara is a hybrid character which fascinated the otaku community. She has a non-cliche personality that her "mood swings" swing with the flow...lets say her transition from tsundere to yandere to kuudere(a rare anime occurence) binds smoothly through her conversations with araragi depicts her as one of those transitionally flexible characters in anime, script-wise/personality-wise...
- Studio Shaft has overhyped the series with a bang before day 1, seems it has been with an array of promotions to keep the anime masses interested...
- It had some sort of formula that made some random comedy anime into repute: flashing random visuals revolving around with a random background. This time around, the studio made this a lot more cleaner and sophisticated look(since people nowadays are in awe of high definition visuals)
-The harem formula of this anime was a modified one, and japanese love harem-oriented flicks. This gave them a breathe of fresh air, since their so-called modified harem formula was very unique to their taste that animus are fascinated...

To sum up, the series has an official adjective: Fascinating :)


Thank you!

Although my opinion on the show has not changed; you probably just made the best explanation so far.
 
02-13-12, 3:55 AM

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i really don't understand why so many people recommended Arakawa Under the Bridge as similar anime for Bakemonogatari.
I like Bakemonogatari but Arakawa not.
 
06-02-12, 3:11 PM

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Just started ep 11 and it's been painful to watch. I HATE most of the animation and style of this series... just want to hurry and get to the end to see what happens. I really don't care for the flashes of "Walls of Text." Seriously, if they wanted the viewer to really read the wall of text, they should not be flashed for just fraction of a second. It's distracting and annoying. Even if I were to be able to read Japanese, I would not be able to read it all. I think this will be the first anime that I'll drop.
 
06-02-12, 3:36 PM

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meownet said:
i really don't understand why so many people recommended Arakawa Under the Bridge as similar anime for Bakemonogatari.
I like Bakemonogatari but Arakawa not.


same director and main voice actor, the animation studio i think was the same too.

nisioisin is a pretty hot (in the popular sense) writer esp to late teens - 30ish(?).
animation quality and style is high. the director is also 'famous' for making anime that is stylistically unique and 'high sense'.
the 1st ending song was also already sure to get many japanese (otaku) fans
 
06-12-12, 8:10 PM

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Hanekawa.
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06-19-12, 3:10 PM

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Actually I dropped this anime few years back after watching the first few ep but recently my cousin told me that he find it nice so i retry it and focus on the dialogue this time and find it interesting.
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07-08-12, 10:47 AM

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im trying to watch this series now and the art style is bugging me! It feel more like i am reading a book then watching an actual anime series! When I saw the first episode and it showed the cool vampire action scenes I thought this show would be cool, but now im on the 3rd ep and the art style is just REALLY bugging me! The characters are also flat as hell, if I met a girl like Hitagi i would probably just kill her myself!
 
07-21-12, 6:49 PM

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So, I picked this show back up for the 4th or 5th time. I had to skip that Snail arc, bored me to tears, but I started on the next arc, and it seems alright now.

I think the dialogue is alright, but I hardly find anything funny here like people say. Hitagi is a good character, but I really can't care for the other characters. I'm putting it On-Hold...again. It's nothing great, but it's just decent I guess.

One thing that baffles me is just how weird this show is. Seriously, probably the weirdest piece of fiction I've ever seen.
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07-21-12, 7:31 PM

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Everything about it.
 
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