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Aug 21, 2008 11:26 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I just saw this RAW. As I am writing this I have tears falling. I don't kow what to say anything but since following the beginning of this series that this really hurt me inside. SO MANY DEAD! It makes me think of Iraq. IAHVE NEVER BEEN SO EMOTIONAL IN MACROSS TILL NOW! The toll of feelings in reality would be too much to even support this.

R.I.P. MICHAEL LEBLANC MAY YOU REST WITH YOUR SISTER WELL!
R.I.P. MR.GLASS THOUGH YOU LEAVE A DAUGHTER I HOPE YOU OK IN HEAVEN.

DAMN YOU GRACE AND LEON! For causing all these deaths and RUINING FRONTIER!
LIKED:
-Not much but I found it VERY TOUCHING the kiss between Klan and Michael but also SO MUCH PAIN when she saw him be killed in front of her eyes.
-The fighting is good but it seems IT IS VERY MUCH IN CHAOS!

That's about it and I don't even have any motivation to write the hate list since there so much but in general I HATE: THE DESTRUCTION, DEATHS (MUCHO BLOOD SPLATTERED) AND SADNESS OF THIS EPISODE. ALSO HATE HATE HATE: GRACE AND LEON.

MAKES ME WANT TO GO INTO THE ANIME AND JUST RIP AND BURN THE HEADS AND BODIES OF LEON AND GRACE. IF I WAS IN THE ANIME.

See when subs are out and you all TRY NOT TO WASTE TOO MANY TEARS SINCE WE STILL HAVE TO SURVIVE THE SADNESS OF THIS REAL WORLD!
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Aug 22, 2008 2:23 AM
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No way Ranka wins this triangle after the way they have depicted her in the last 5 episodes and especially this one. Sheryl's slap to her was well deserved, "I want to die" after seeing alto and sheryl hugging, give me a fucking break.

Sheryl's Diamond Crevasse in this episode was well done, liked the difference in this one compared to the original version. Best of the 3 versions so far imo. Sheryl and Alto's scenes were again good.

And damn Michael RIP, at least you went out in a good way.
Aug 23, 2008 6:39 AM
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This was pure awesomeness. Good way of handling drama without exaggerating things. Also, Michael


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    Aug 23, 2008 7:27 AM
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    Sheryl's diamond crevasse made that scene so depressing and amazing. Klan having to watch Michal die right in-front of her....why do i get the feeling that she will die also?
    Aug 23, 2008 9:42 AM
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    Vertago said:
    Sheryl's diamond crevasse made that scene so depressing and amazing. Klan having to watch Michal die right in-front of her....why do i get the feeling that she will die also?

    You're not the only one but look at it the positive way...at least she will go all out and trust me, I have seen heighten combat psychological value in females when their love ones die; specifically moments before that screw in the brain turns.

    All I got to say is: KLAN IF YOU DIE AT LEAST BLOW, RIP AND SHRED VAJRAS TO PIECES MORE THAN THE LIMIT OF THE SKY ALLOWS. In other words kill as many as you can before you die.

    Trust me friend I would do the same if I was in their shoes.
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    Aug 23, 2008 10:37 AM
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    amazing episode

    they're really drove in the emotional aspect of the fighting in this episode.

    RIP Michel... you might've been a playboy... but at least you died honorably protecting the girl you love.
    Aug 23, 2008 12:07 PM
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    Ok, another emotional coaster again. Guess I got too much time in the army so I can relate to it. From the looks of things for next episode this will get solved but Michael :(
    he won't come back and so much grief left = to a complete down moral.

    ONE MORE THING: DIE LEON AND GRACE. DIE VAJRA SCUMS!
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    Aug 23, 2008 12:42 PM
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    Progressing through this episode I was sure that Sheryl would be the one meeting her end. I should have known it would be Michel once Klan confessed. A lot happened this episode, all the more reason for me to love a series that isn't afraid of killing off it's main/sub characters.
    Aug 23, 2008 1:15 PM
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    Damn good episode I say.
    Really good drama in it from when Sheryl started singing.
    Aug 23, 2008 1:19 PM

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    sheryl is my hero. great episode.
    Aug 23, 2008 2:30 PM

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    I CRIED MANLY TEARS.

    Aug 23, 2008 4:11 PM

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    FINALLY the playboy is out of the picture... damn this episode rocked.
    Aug 23, 2008 4:18 PM
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    Rest in Peace Michael. You will be missed.

    another stellar episode. the development of Klan and Michael's relationship was bittersweet. its a shame that it was on the same episode as Michael's demise. and indeed, Diamond Crevasse did make his death all the more tragic.
    Aug 23, 2008 6:56 PM

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    Its the return of Sheryl. Finally she is back in the spotlight!
    Aug 23, 2008 7:05 PM

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    omg, michell die, that was so gay



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    Aug 23, 2008 7:08 PM

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    Westlo said:
    No way Ranka wins this triangle after the way they have depicted her in the last 5 episodes and especially this one.


    I kind of thought she had the upper hand from the start. I still think she will die in the end though.
    Aug 23, 2008 7:21 PM

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    Vertago said:
    Sheryl's diamond crevasse made that scene so depressing and amazing. Klan having to watch Michal die right in-front of her....why do i get the feeling that she will die also?
    Because she actually has someone to look forward to if it happens?

    Finally, a death scene that really carries some weight.
    *salutes Michael for an awesome exit*
    Aug 23, 2008 7:25 PM

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    i was more sad about the sniper's death.

    pretty good episode. i actually like leon. >_>
    Aug 23, 2008 8:31 PM

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    T_T

    But now I forget. Where did Ranka get Al (her pet) again?
    Aug 23, 2008 8:55 PM

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    She picked up Ai off the streets. Or rather Ai found her first instead.

    BAWWW for Michael. He was pretty kewl.
    Aug 23, 2008 8:55 PM

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    Iriya said:
    T_T

    But now I forget. Where did Ranka get Al (her pet) again?


    Episode 11, when Alto left her waiting while he ran off to another planet as Sheryl's escort, she finds it then.

    Aug 23, 2008 10:18 PM

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    pretty GAR death though.
    Aug 24, 2008 1:30 AM
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    pretty sad, wish they had killed luca instead
    Aug 24, 2008 1:38 AM

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    hatebobbarker said:
    pretty sad, wish they had killed luca instead

    Agreed, but i guess he still has a role to forfill in the series. Still not sure what his relation with Leon is.

    RIP michel !! (nice finish though)

    pissed off Klan seems to go berserk in preview, can't wait
    Ranka is overreacting (as usual, oh my god they are hugging, they must love each other. I won't ask if it's true but they hug so it MUST be true, sigh)
    Ah darnit, why must Grace have such a power over Brera, i'm sure he would act different if it weren't, so she must DIE.
    Leon is an ass, well at least kudos for seeing his coup d'etat trough to the end. I wonder what he has in store for the frontier.

    Looks like the Vajra were seriously multiplying in the frontier, just look at their numbers. Guess frontier isn't well maintenanced if they can't find 1 of the so many Vajra larves.

    Kinda silly that only Luca would know that Ai was a larve, i'd say the first thing you do when you're under attack is to let everyone know who or what the enemy is. Since they didn't, aa well suprise turns out your little pet becomes a monster, sorry we forgot to mention that.

    Anyways 5/5 this episode, lots of action/drama, great !


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    Aug 24, 2008 1:59 AM
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    Xjellocross said:
    I CRIED MANLY TEARS.



    Yep.
    Aug 24, 2008 3:26 AM

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    Man what an episode! The last part was spectacular with Sheryl's beautiful song showing the tragic end to Michael.
    Aug 24, 2008 3:58 AM

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    This episode was epic. Worst thing about it all was, me and my mate were betting that either Michael or Klan would die. I should really stop betting on character deaths. Now to bet that Grace gets the karmic retribution she deserves and dies painfully many, many times.
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    Aug 24, 2008 7:58 AM

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    wow, that was a really good ep, tho he went out like a badass i was actually pretty sad when Michael died. just shows that this show has done a good job developing characters that you care about and delivering satisfyingly emotional scenes. i especially liked what gg put in at the end of their release, "See You Space Playboy." hehe.
    Aug 24, 2008 10:52 AM

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    Kaizokuou said:
    i especially liked what gg put in at the end of their release, "See You Space Playboy." hehe.


    I got a good laugh out of that also. :)

    I am a banana.
    Aug 24, 2008 2:22 PM

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    Gawd. They always kill off some of the best characters. >.> Kamina, Michel. Klan's probably next?

    Lol, this episode affected me - so I made a signature from that last scene where Sheryl's crying with my amateur skills with photoshop
    Aug 24, 2008 3:32 PM

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    -hoshi- said:
    Gawd. They always kill off some of the best characters. >.> Kamina, Michel. Klan's probably next?

    Lol, this episode affected me - so I made a signature from that last scene where Sheryl's crying with my amateur skills with photoshop


    Hey that's pretty nice how did you do that? I mean if you do something like that how do you integrate it?
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    Aug 24, 2008 3:41 PM
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    Wow, now THAT is how you kill off a character! Best...death...of...the...year? I certainly think so.

    Aug 24, 2008 6:04 PM

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    Xjellocross said:
    I CRIED MANLY TEARS.

    me too
    this is just me being stupid but why did Klan take off her clothes before she started runing. I liked that part >.<
    Aug 24, 2008 6:43 PM

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    I didn't watch this until now since someone spoiled it for me. I didn't want to accept it. At least they sent him off right. However, I must say, I'm rather saddened that Michael died. I always liked the guy, and this just made me like him more =/ Many manly tears found their way to the resting place in my palms tonight. BAAAAAWWWWWW

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    Aug 24, 2008 11:06 PM

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    dang, loli's kiss is deadly. RIP, Space Playboy.
    Aug 24, 2008 11:07 PM

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    Definitely a crazy episode. Damn.
    Aug 25, 2008 1:49 AM

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    Hellmonkey said:
    Xjellocross said:
    I CRIED MANLY TEARS.

    me too
    this is just me being stupid but why did Klan take off her clothes before she started runing. I liked that part >.<


    I can explain the cloth taking off in the science terms.
    For fanservice maybe that is one way.

    The other way is the machine for miclones to Full size Meltrian does not accept anything but flesh to do transfer and that is why.

    Another reason is obvious the conversion would destroy her clothes. I am sure it has to do with the machine specs.
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    Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM

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    Twist of plot is always interesting for me, like in Gundam 00.
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    Hellmonkey said:
    Xjellocross said:
    I CRIED MANLY TEARS.

    me too
    this is just me being stupid but why did Klan take off her clothes before she started runing. I liked that part >.<


    she's usually naked when she micronizes/demicronizes isnt she?
    Aug 25, 2008 2:52 PM

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    so...Michael went out the same way a certain person in Geass R2
    went out!

    except Michael is kinda cool...



    Aug 25, 2008 7:38 PM

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    awesome episode.... R.I.P Michael... can't wait to see the remaining episodes
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    hmmm so ranka is the daughter of mao from zero?
    Aug 26, 2008 1:55 PM
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    kisami said:
    hmmm so ranka is the daughter of mao from zero?

    no
    but i think mao might have adopted sheryl when she was young
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    Grace adopted Sheryl to experiment if she was the Fairy 9, but she wasn't. The name Sheryl Nome was given to her when Grace adopted her.
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    Alastor1996 said:
    Grace adopted Sheryl to experiment if she was the Fairy 9, but she wasn't. The name Sheryl Nome was given to her when Grace adopted her.


    yeah but Nome is Mao's last name, and grace seemed to be working under her at the time.
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    Great episode, though it was obvious that either Michel or Klan will die. But I like how they killed him, it was cool and there won't be anyone saying he'll be back like people usually do.

    And Diamond Crevasse made it touching too. Too bad this version is not on the OST.
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    All this talk about Mao, I think I'll point you in the direction of these two pics which show the a modified scene from the Blueray version of Macross Zero.

    Old version
    http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/47813/964/47813_20080823170633_5faa736aedc55ea4f9ec3d3702a1f69e.JPG

    Blueray version
    http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/47813/964/47813_20080823170633_5697b2e6297cee163192582f4242d8f3.jpg
    Aug 28, 2008 7:59 AM

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    This is episode is just epic..

    By the time it reached Michael’s death, I almost shed a tear..
    Even though I expected it too happen (after reading the spoilers), it was still sad..very sad..
    Especially with Sheryl’s singing accompanying the epic scene..
    Haven’t felt this way in a long time..
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    Westlo said:
    All this talk about Mao, I think I'll point you in the direction of these two pics which show the a modified scene from the Blueray version of Macross Zero.

    Old version
    http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/47813/964/47813_20080823170633_5faa736aedc55ea4f9ec3d3702a1f69e.JPG

    Blueray version
    http://www.macross.com.cn/album/upload/47813/964/47813_20080823170633_5697b2e6297cee163192582f4242d8f3.jpg


    That is completely WACK! Why would they put in the other version the earrings? Just THAT tells us that it's Sheryl. Hmmmmm so she really was adopted by Mao and experimented on.

    I HATE HUMAN EXPERIENCES ON KIDS!
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    i really don't like ranka after this episode....i hope alto ends up with sheryl


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