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01-23-12, 10:36 AM

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JonyJC said:
Stop buying movies and anything related, they suck anyway so we may as well let movie theaters become popcorn stands best way to get to a percentage of the people trying to pass this.


http://ycombinator.com/rfs9.html <-- A plan to do pretty much exactly that.

For those who don't like clicking links:

 
01-23-12, 10:53 AM

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freedom of internet

R.I.P.

- I guess civil society will lose before economic sharks.
 
01-23-12, 10:59 AM

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Hasn't America already signed ACTA some time ago? And you still watch anime and tv series online there, right? ( <- question to american users) Maybe it won't be that devastating. Come on, can the government/internet provider really follow all people moves in the internet? Sounds like science-fiction. Or "1984".
I think that majority of films, tv series and stuff has already moved to the internet. Government should accept that and, if they do (really do) want to stop piracy, provide some solution online instead of blocking access to some websites. For example, sites with high quality films where you pay for watching (but not too much) and money goes to the film's creators. And fighting piracy at the same time. Sounds too utiopia-like... okay, maybe it's not possible at all...
And of course - stop ACTA, long live freedom!
 
01-23-12, 11:09 AM

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How do we stop it or are we too late? I'm concerned.
 
01-23-12, 11:16 AM

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SoraChanLove said:
How do we stop it or are we too late? I'm concerned.

Go downtown and search for a sewer with a red lid on it. Climb down and walk straight ahead, take the next turn right and you'll find a button with a sign above that says "ACTA elimination button". Push the button; problem solved.

I troll, I troll...
There's nothing you can do really, except spreading the word and uphold the protests.
The Internet is a very bad place, you should never go there.
 
01-23-12, 11:16 AM

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Mormegil said:
It'd be cool if Obama would just do something about the economy instead of all this bullshit.
It'd be cool if Obama was competent in any way, shape, or form.

I guarantee you he wouldn't have threatened to veto SOPA if there wasn't such an active opposition. Just trying to secure votes for reelection.
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01-23-12, 11:29 AM

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Lol. So they want to put half the world in prisons. I hope they got enough space.

 
01-23-12, 11:39 AM

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Lol. So they want to put half the world in prisons. I hope they got enough space.


They can evict people in small rural towns to make real estate for prisons.


 
01-23-12, 12:17 PM

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Hoppy said:
Day2Dream said:
Lol. So they want to put half the world in prisons. I hope they got enough space.


They can evict people in small rural towns to make real estate for prisons.

Good old Eminent Domain. It's been around since right around the American Civil War I believe (not a history guy, not even of my own country, so don't quote me on that). They do at least have to offer "fair compensation," though, whatever they'll decide that means.
 
01-23-12, 1:58 PM

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Hoppy said:
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Lol. So they want to put half the world in prisons. I hope they got enough space.

They can evict people in small rural towns to make real estate for prisons.

That's like ripping a section off on your country especially if you're going to house a lot of people. The death sentence would be more economic at that scale...

 
01-23-12, 2:12 PM

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Forget desember 20, the world is ending now
 
01-23-12, 8:53 PM

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Well put...but honestly...why does limiting piracy have to compromise freedoms. If you ask me, having my iPod taken away because it has pirated music on it just doesn't seem right...
 
01-23-12, 9:08 PM

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EVA_UNIT_02 said:
Well put...but honestly...why does limiting piracy have to compromise freedoms. If you ask me, having my iPod taken away because it has pirated music on it just doesn't seem right...
I'm pretty sure that's not legal in any way, shape, or form. I'm ignorant, but it seems they're trying to do something they simply can't have the power to.
 
01-24-12, 2:06 PM

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Don't you think those laws are something more than just for preventing piracy?
cause you know, the industry is rather gaining by free downloads than loosing. and you don't need to be an economist to know that popularity=profit.

what I mean is, there are many informations about governments on the internet, that governments aren't found of ( wikileaks? ).

wouldn't this law allow to shut mouth of everyone who knows something uncomfortable?
something like people who knew too much were ''disappearing'' the old days.

lulz conspiracy theories.
 
01-24-12, 2:22 PM

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ACTA or how to rape the world's economy.

-Rich will get richer
-Poor will get poorer
-Most people that download illegaly mp3/movies/animes won't ever pay for them so it will result in the product being less known which will in the end produce less money on the long term.
-Because of said product not being as much widely known as it was when it was actually possible to get it for free the production studios will have to invest more into publicity which will result in work which less quality which will also result in a drop in the sale.

For country such as Japan where anime/manga is actually a big part of the economy this will be a huge blow and will result in Japan's economy dropping quite a while.

Meanwhile chinese people get beated up behind school, car run on child, rapist rape, murderer kill and many people die of poverty but hey, these event are IRL. Who care about IRL when you have internet.
 
01-24-12, 5:36 PM

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http://rt.com/news/acta-internet-censor-treaty-591/

ACTA was ratified by US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand Morroco, Singapore in 2011?

They gonna police everything we do on internet. They gonna take away internet freedom. This is a tragedy
 
01-24-12, 9:29 PM

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hyakushikimaru said:
http://rt.com/news/acta-internet-censor-treaty-591/

ACTA was ratified by US, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand Morroco, Singapore in 2011?

They gonna police everything we do on internet. They gonna take away internet freedom. This is a tragedy
This is outright tyrranical and draconian. Ideas like a new world order suddenly don't seem so farfetched, now, do they?

God help us.
 
01-24-12, 11:31 PM
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This is outright tyrranical and draconian. Ideas like a new world order suddenly don't seem so farfetched, now, do they?

God help us.
The new world order actually started to be put into motion when the people started revolutions against communism. Many countries, like mine, needed to be quickly absorbed after by NATO, EU and other 'people's' alliances and be put into USA's sphere of influence so they can get more power when needed. It's no joking matter when I say that the Americans do almost everything they want in my country (thus the protests that recently started against the current government) and I'm not happy about that. //true thoughts
Next, the new world order needed a reason to be grown, so they simply blew the twin towers up. Whether they were brought down by the terrorist or imploded using charges, then that is another discussion but whatever happened, it was still a conspicuous event (everything is linked too well together). After the twin towers collapsed, the USA finally had the reason to start waging war, and while the globalization worked at its maximum swallowing whole world markets, they could spread their military presence as well. //unproved conspiracies
In my opinion, the new world order was finally in its last step when USA declared SOPA and PIPA, while working on ACTA in the behind scenes. If you cannot see it, the Internet is the last form of free-speech and it grew far too powerful for those up the ladder and now they're trying to bring it down. It's way too obvious what they're trying to do, so people finally started to get a grasp of the situation. We might face a war in this conditions. //pessimistic thoughts

Note: When I talk about USA, I talk about the corporates, not the people. The people don't have any fault in the matter.

As a fun fact, you won't be able to use 'God help us!' in the near future because it will be copyrighted by the church xD
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01-25-12, 4:20 AM

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koleare said:
DraconisMarch said:
This is outright tyrranical and draconian. Ideas like a new world order suddenly don't seem so farfetched, now, do they?

God help us.
The new world order actually started to be put into motion when the people started revolutions against communism. Many countries, like mine, needed to be quickly absorbed after by NATO, EU and other 'people's' alliances and be put into USA's sphere of influence so they can get more power when needed. It's no joking matter when I say that the Americans do almost everything they want in my country (thus the protests that recently started against the current government) and I'm not happy about that. //true thoughts
Next, the new world order needed a reason to be grown, so they simply blew the twin towers up. Whether they were brought down by the terrorist or imploded using charges, then that is another discussion but whatever happened, it was still a conspicuous event (everything is linked too well together). After the twin towers collapsed, the USA finally had the reason to start waging war, and while the globalization worked at its maximum swallowing whole world markets, they could spread their military presence as well. //unproved conspiracies
In my opinion, the new world order was finally in its last step when USA declared SOPA and PIPA, while working on ACTA in the behind scenes. If you cannot see it, the Internet is the last form of free-speech and it grew far too powerful for those up the ladder and now they're trying to bring it down. It's way too obvious what they're trying to do, so people finally started to get a grasp of the situation. We might face a war in this conditions. //pessimistic thoughts

Note: When I talk about USA, I talk about the corporates, not the people. The people don't have any fault in the matter.

As a fun fact, you won't be able to use 'God help us!' in the near future because it will be copyrighted by the church xD
No, I totally agree. I was just saying there are a ton of ignorant asses out there who just call people who talk about it paranoid and crazy. Now that their rights are being stripped away, it'll be interesting to see what ignorant retards will continue living in their own world.

Sometimes, I wish I was as ignorant as those people, because hearing about this stuff just stresses me out--and there's nothing I can do to fix it. Sometimes, I wish I just didn't know anything and could keep frollicking through life, blissfully unaware. But then I'd be in for one hell of a rude awakening.
 
01-25-12, 10:16 AM

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Maddo_scientisto said:
ACTA or how to rape the world's economy.

-Rich will get richer
-Poor will get poorer
-Most people that download illegaly mp3/movies/animes won't ever pay for them so it will result in the product being less known which will in the end produce less money on the long term.
-Because of said product not being as much widely known as it was when it was actually possible to get it for free the production studios will have to invest more into publicity which will result in work which less quality which will also result in a drop in the sale.
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My thoughts exactly. I dont understand one thing. 95 % of WORLDS society is against ACTA, SOPA etx and they still going to be signed.... So this means that really words like democracy, freedom are just bullsh@t. We're going back to Socialism

I think that the present time ( few months, maybe 1 year or 2 from now) will be very important. It will determine what will happen with our freedom. I will say it again Because the statement that all those SOPAs PIPAs ACTAs are created just to destroy piracy is f@cking bullsh@t

What will stop them from using those laws to restrain the whole internet. Politics, companies will control all the materials ( for example they will delete messages that are criticizing them). They will have the power and there will always be person to use it

Its like with dna manipulation. The cause is good ( saving human lives, cure for cancer, to prevent hunger etx) But its also ( very:P) possible that some maniac will rise and use this technology to for example to create a human perfect army etx ( so he will use it for evil- yes i love SF and Fantasy)

Those laws give to much power and restrain the internet

Ok im going to watch few anime when i still can. Few hours till Japan sings ACTA
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