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01-16-12, 1:40 PM

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A bunch of videos showing korra and katara(now like really old) and some fighting scenes

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/01/15/video-a-new-look-at-avatar-sequel-the-last-airbender-legend-of-korra
 
01-16-12, 1:55 PM

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I think the discussion about Avatar being an anime or not is pretty old..

@Topic: Not a fan of Avatar (just watched a few episodes while they were showing here in Germany) but it does look and sound interesting. I like the locations/settings and I love that the new Avatar is female. I think I'll give it a try.
 
01-16-12, 3:57 PM

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Sir_Lexa said:
BoldBrad said:
Ya had no idea this was an issue. Ive always considered it an anime and well i always will. Might not meet a dictionary definition and even the site might say its not but to me it is and i guess we could argue this all day till we all dont care anymore.


There is absolutely no point arguing if Avatar is an anime or not. Because it's a common FACT that it is not.


Since when has something being fact ever stopped anyone?

...because evolution totally never happened. eyeroll.jpg

Just gotta learn to live with people like that :P

On topic though; it looks pretty good. Might be the first Nick cartoon I've watched since...avatar lol
 
01-16-12, 4:00 PM

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I don't get how there's people stupid enough to think Avatar is anime or even Japanese to begin with.

Then I remember this is the internet and I underestimate people.

Anyway, I tried to watch the first first awhile back. Was pretty bad. It got cancelled in my country and didn't even finish it's run it was that bad I guess. This new series doesn't look any better.

Nickelodeon trying to make wannabe anime is always a funny thought, though. I think it's a bit flattering anime is that popular in America, don't you think?
 
01-16-12, 4:13 PM

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America really needs to give up these kinds of shows, since they never work. Censorship killed the first series something fierce, to the point you can't kill people on screen in a fighting series? God, imagine if Death Note couldn't kill anyone, or Cowboy Bebop? They should stick to comedy shows like Spongebob which don't require more mature writing than they can get away with on a kid's channel.
 
01-16-12, 4:15 PM

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Armiga21 said:
America really needs to give up these kinds of shows, since they never work. Censorship killed the first series something fierce, to the point you can't kill people on screen in a fighting series? God, imagine if Death Note couldn't kill anyone, or Cowboy Bebop? They should stick to comedy shows like Spongebob which don't require more mature writing than they can get away with on a kid's channel.


While censorship blows, a show can still be good without showing death or gore.
 
01-16-12, 4:21 PM

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Not when it still tries to go to those places and fails miserably. What was that one episode? "I'll end your destiny myself if you hurt him" or "You're in for more than hurt if you face me"? This is the kind of stupid death avoidance people make fun of 4Kids for. Then again, at least 4Kids Luffy still got to punch and beat up people, so 4Kids gets a least some credit there.
 
01-16-12, 4:24 PM

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Anime is just a shorten version for "animation". >.< I hate it when people make it a huge deal about the category when they themselves haven't studied in that area. The fans made the criteria is more likely.

But BACK TO THE TOPIC: I can't wait. It looks more serious-looking than the original series and i just hope it's promissing. It'll most likely be set up in my DVR once it comes out.
 
01-16-12, 4:31 PM

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Here in Japan, everything is referred to technically as "anime", however, foreign animation is not a concern here so Japanese fans have never had a reason to differentiate between the two. When people say anime here, we think of Shin-chan, Pocket Monsters, Doraemon, One Piece, Detective Conan, and other Japanese programming. From what I've seen, the word was adopted to specifically mean Japanese animation in the western cultures since there is a need to seperate them. In this case, calling it anime would be disrespectful to both Japan and the Americas anime fanbase I feel.
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01-16-12, 5:35 PM

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Not when it still tries to go to those places and fails miserably. What was that one episode? "I'll end your destiny myself if you hurt him" or "You're in for more than hurt if you face me"? This is the kind of stupid death avoidance people make fun of 4Kids for. Then again, at least 4Kids Luffy still got to punch and beat up people, so 4Kids gets a least some credit there.


But I loved the 4Kids One Piece opening :D
 
01-16-12, 5:39 PM

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Doryuzu said:
I don't get how there's people stupid enough to think Avatar is anime or even Japanese to begin with.

Then I remember this is the internet and I underestimate people.

Anyway, I tried to watch the first first awhile back. Was pretty bad. It got cancelled in my country and didn't even finish it's run it was that bad I guess. This new series doesn't look any better.

Nickelodeon trying to make wannabe anime is always a funny thought, though. I think it's a bit flattering anime is that popular in America, don't you think?



Stupid? Well thx i did forget this was the internet and another human beings opinion that differs from your own automatically makes me stupid. Sorry i underestimated this site and its potential to draw out the worst in people such as yourself. But hey i bet there is a place somewhere in this world for people like you. O wait i forgot......there isn't.

And ya you can have your opinion on avatar that's fine no big deal there but be able to explain your opinion with out jumping to name calling. Your the reason why the internet can suck......so just get over yourself. PLEASE!
 
01-16-12, 6:23 PM

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BoldBrad said:
Doryuzu said:
I don't get how there's people stupid enough to think Avatar is anime or even Japanese to begin with.

Then I remember this is the internet and I underestimate people.

Anyway, I tried to watch the first first awhile back. Was pretty bad. It got cancelled in my country and didn't even finish it's run it was that bad I guess. This new series doesn't look any better.

Nickelodeon trying to make wannabe anime is always a funny thought, though. I think it's a bit flattering anime is that popular in America, don't you think?



Stupid? Well thx i did forget this was the internet and another human beings opinion that differs from your own automatically makes me stupid. Sorry i underestimated this site and its potential to draw out the worst in people such as yourself. But hey i bet there is a place somewhere in this world for people like you. O wait i forgot......there isn't.

And ya you can have your opinion on avatar that's fine no big deal there but be able to explain your opinion with out jumping to name calling. Your the reason why the internet can suck......so just get over yourself. PLEASE!


Well, people on the internet can be rude at times.

But he's not wrong, its not a matter of opinion, its a fact.
 
01-16-12, 8:24 PM

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Jrittmayer said:
BoldBrad said:
Doryuzu said:
I don't get how there's people stupid enough to think Avatar is anime or even Japanese to begin with.

Then I remember this is the internet and I underestimate people.

Anyway, I tried to watch the first first awhile back. Was pretty bad. It got cancelled in my country and didn't even finish it's run it was that bad I guess. This new series doesn't look any better.

Nickelodeon trying to make wannabe anime is always a funny thought, though. I think it's a bit flattering anime is that popular in America, don't you think?



Stupid? Well thx i did forget this was the internet and another human beings opinion that differs from your own automatically makes me stupid. Sorry i underestimated this site and its potential to draw out the worst in people such as yourself. But hey i bet there is a place somewhere in this world for people like you. O wait i forgot......there isn't.

And ya you can have your opinion on avatar that's fine no big deal there but be able to explain your opinion with out jumping to name calling. Your the reason why the internet can suck......so just get over yourself. PLEASE!


Well, people on the internet can be rude at times.

But he's not wrong, its not a matter of opinion, its a fact.


Well i can agree that maybe in definition it isnt an anime but then what do you call something so close to it. And to all those people yes dragon ball z and pokemon are animes lol
 
01-16-12, 8:53 PM

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I loved Avatar!!! Although it's not considered anime, it's one of the best "kid" shows I have ever seen. The plot is so epic, and it's HILARIOUS XD They're truly was a perfect blend of seriousness and comedy. Also, the characters were awesome!
I'm excited for The Legend of Korra!!!!!!! WOOT! ^^
 
01-16-12, 9:14 PM

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BoldBrad said:
Well i can agree that maybe in definition it isnt an anime but then what do you call something so close to it.


I'm not sure I follow. There's noting "so close" about it, it's nothing at all like anime to be perfectly honest.
 
01-16-12, 10:14 PM

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TitanXL said:
BoldBrad said:
Well i can agree that maybe in definition it isnt an anime but then what do you call something so close to it.


I'm not sure I follow. There's noting "so close" about it, it's nothing at all like anime to be perfectly honest.



and id have to disagree lol. But as you can tell alot of people do
 
01-16-12, 11:21 PM

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Anyway, I tried to watch the first first awhile back. Was pretty bad. It got cancelled in my country and didn't even finish it's run it was that bad I guess.
So TV ratings are what determine if said show is good or not?
Welp, I guess Sazae-san is the best anime ever made.
 
01-16-12, 11:53 PM

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These are dictionary definitions, made to be precise. If these three sources meant to define anime as being made in Japan, they would simply have called it "Japanese animation" or "animation made in Japan." Instead, "style" is the foremost defining factor in all three of those definitions. That's not to say that the definition at MAL is wrong - it's just not the single possibility in the universe.
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Those three sources do define anime as being made in Japan. Again "Japanese style" in the context of animation is read as both meaning what the country of origin is and how said country handles animation. However definitions get ignored and misread(shifting the focus of words) in order to debate this sort of topic because calling a cartoon "anime inspired" or "anime style" simply isn't cool enough for some people. They need to quibble about wording so they can technically call a cartoon they like, anime.

Even if style is the most important factor, Avatar's style isn't anime or Japanese in any way. The most it did was tell a story from start to finish, which is an accomplishment for Western animation as most shows don't have a story or the ones that do end up getting cancelled before the story is concluded. Other than that the visuals are Chinese ripoffs and everything else is executed solidly within Western animation limitations.

Well i can agree that maybe in definition it isnt an anime but then what do you call something so close to it.

You say it's close or come up with a new name.
Apple cider is just a few steps away from being apple juice but people don't call it apple just because it's close.

 
01-17-12, 12:31 AM

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Tiago97 said:
So TV ratings are what determine if said show is good or not?
Welp, I guess Sazae-san is the best anime ever made.


Actually it says quite a bit when late-night adult-only 3:AM anime can air all it's episodes but a children's cartoon can not. Must have been really bad ratings. Though I guess the question is why would they bother with fake anime when they have the real stuff? Makes logical sense if you think about it.

"Anime_Name" said:
Even if style is the most important factor, Avatar's style isn't anime or Japanese in any way. The most it did was tell a story from start to finish, which is an accomplishment for Western animation as most shows don't have a story or the ones that do end up getting cancelled before the story is concluded. Other than that the visuals are Chinese ripoffs and everything else is executed solidly within Western animation limitations.


Indeed. About the only credit you can give the show is it's one of the rare American shows that managed to finish it's story before cancellation. Pretty rare, but I don't think that's reason enough to really praise it. If you have to preface any praise with "for Western animation" then it really cheapens the whole thing and you have to wonder if it's not just being praised for the sake of novelty. Saying it is like anime is pretty reaching though.. the plotting and characters were very distinctly American at their core, even if they had Asian paint slapped on them. I don't think you can have Sokka acting like a gangster and talk like he's from the modern age with slang and still claim it's following in authentic Asian culture and dialog. They didn't even pronounce the names by their proper Asian pronunciation most of the time. It still had a ways to go.
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01-17-12, 3:38 AM

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Anime_Name said:
Those three sources do define anime as being made in Japan. Again "Japanese style" in the context of animation is read as both meaning what the country of origin is and how said country handles animation.


Mhm. I have seen this form of debate in my family.
"I only got one cookie for desert. I want another."
"You ate two. I watched you do it.
"I ate One."
"No two. See, there were five and now there are three."
"One."
"Are you kidding? Two."
"One."
...
"One"
...
"One"
...
"One"
"OK fine, take a cookie."


Before I start handing out the cookies, here's a reminder of the first three dictionary definitions of "anime" that came up on Google.

an·i·me
a Japanese style of motion-picture animation
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime
ANIME
a style of animation originating in Japan
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime
an·i·me (n-m)
A style of animation developed in Japan
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/anime

So, if "Japanese style" implies made only in Japan, then why do we have "Japanese style" buildings, clothing, music, and cuisine being made outside of Japan?

If the writers of those three dictionary definitions believed that anime is intrinsically "made in Japan" then why didn't they write those words? e.g.
CHAMPAGNE. 1. : a white sparkling wine made in the old province of Champagne, France
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champagne

Now, back to my all-night Avatar marathon.
 
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