Why arent older manga and anime that popular here?
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04-24-12, 8:17 PM
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BlackSabotage said: Am I the only person who thinks most modern art looks like shit compared to the old? Seriously look you cant tell me pandora hearts has better art than Akira or Hokuto no ken. Seriously look you can't tell me this random modern anime is better than these cherrypicked classics of the entire medium 運命の子たち・果実 |
#42
04-25-12, 9:21 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 61 |
I do have more problems with old anime than with old manga. I think some of the animations of old anime are just a bit too slow in my taste, and this bothers me when I watch such a series. I have tried Berserk, but I just had to quit after a while. Reading the manga is less of problem, because you can decide your own pace and the arts do not really age as much as the animation. Even though all this, I mostly read new manga... I do not know why, I follow my interests and no old manga seems to pop up. What are real 'old-manga classics' that I should at least try? 'There are no facts, only interpretations' - Nietzsche |
#43
05-05-12, 10:55 PM
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cause its fucking impossible to find like 90% of the pre 1990 stuff translated, only the really popular well known shows from those times are possible to find, theres a good reason why alot of anime's from the 70's and 80's only have like 20 people putting it on their list "Being a fan of something is like having a penis. It's normal to have one and it's nice to be proud of it. But for the love of god, don't pull it out in public and don't wave it in other's faces." |
#44
05-09-12, 6:06 PM
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DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: cause its fucking impossible to find like 90% of the pre 1990 stuff translated, only the really popular well known shows from those times are possible to find, theres a good reason why alot of anime's from the 70's and 80's only have like 20 people putting it on their list You can find it if your not lazy. Top 5 anime. 1. Ashita no Joe 2. Legend of the Galactic heroes 3. Saint Seiya 4. Hokuto no Ken 5. City Hunter top 5 manga. 1. Lone Wolf and Cub. 2. Akira. 3. Barefoot Gen 4. Phoenix 5. Berserk. |
#45
05-09-12, 6:19 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 25 |
When anything "old" is mentioned it always seems to attract the elitists, and their opinions on how everything made nowadays is trash. Seeing a pompous buffoon touting that their favorites are far more impressive and their tastes are much more refined doesn't help draw in willing viewers/readers of older anime/manga. |
#46
05-09-12, 6:32 PM
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BlackSabotage said: You can find it if your not lazy. How do you find that which does not exist? Enlighten me. A lot of anime go un-translated (in English), even some newer shows. Pafrog said: When anything "old" is mentioned it always seems to attract the elitists, and their opinions on how everything made nowadays is trash. Seeing a pompous buffoon touting that their favorites are far more impressive and their tastes are much more refined doesn't help draw in willing viewers/readers of older anime/manga. It works both ways. There's just as much people (from what I see on this site, more) who refuse to watch "older" shows because of art style/animation. The only difference is that those people can't be labeled as "elitists", but it doesn't make them any better/worse. |
#47
05-09-12, 6:37 PM
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Pafrog said: When anything "old" is mentioned it always seems to attract the elitists, and their opinions on how everything made nowadays is trash. Seeing a pompous buffoon touting that their favorites are far more impressive and their tastes are much more refined doesn't help draw in willing viewers/readers of older anime/manga. It works both ways. There's just as much people (from what I see on this site, more) who refuse to watch "older" shows because of art style/animation. The only difference is that those people can't be called elitists. Sorry, I was only going off of one side of the conflict/argument because a lot of people had already posted about newer viewers disliking anything with an older art style. I fully agree with you though, a lot of people are going to keep missing out on good anime/manga if they keep those sort of opinions, same goes for the elitists. There's been good titles from all generations, but it all depends on personal taste, and that's very hard to change, so it's not worth trying to push an anime/manga onto a person if he/she is adamant about not wanting to watch/read it. |
#48
05-09-12, 6:37 PM
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MissileSoup said: BlackSabotage said: You can find it if your not lazy. How do you find that which does not exist? Enlighten me. A lot of anime go un-translated (in English), even some newer shows. What about the ones that do exist? plenty of good old manga is translated. Top 5 anime. 1. Ashita no Joe 2. Legend of the Galactic heroes 3. Saint Seiya 4. Hokuto no Ken 5. City Hunter top 5 manga. 1. Lone Wolf and Cub. 2. Akira. 3. Barefoot Gen 4. Phoenix 5. Berserk. |
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05-09-12, 6:47 PM
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BlackSabotage said: What about the ones that do exist? plenty of good old manga is translated. That's true. But the person you quoted was specifically referring to those which are not translated. Pafrog said: ... Indeed, there are merits in both. I just don't think singling out the radicals of each side has any meaning, and that seems to always be the direction taken in these discussions. |
#50
05-10-12, 6:26 PM
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Nah, we will join the 'club' 10 years later, it's inevitable. |
#51
05-11-12, 4:29 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 24 |
It's the same with everything. Example; generations to come will have new book's to obsses over, Harry Potter will be old school. Sometimes it's nice to be apart of things aswell as read them. Like it's more exciting being able to buy your favourite bands CD the day it's released then 50 years after. But to me that sort of thing doesn't really matter. My favourite Manga was published in 1998. Maybe I'm wrong :/ |
#52
05-11-12, 4:31 AM
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[cause of the fact older anime is not Moe and most younger fans only like moe ofr the most part my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
#53
05-11-12, 5:59 AM
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Enjolras1830 said: [cause of the fact older anime is not Moe and most younger fans only like moe ofr the most part I'm not sure how serious you are because I very much doubt the only thing younger viewers like to watch is moe... |
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05-11-12, 7:09 PM
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Enjolras1830 said: [cause of the fact older anime is not Moe and most younger fans only like moe ofr the most part The fuck is moe? Top 5 anime. 1. Ashita no Joe 2. Legend of the Galactic heroes 3. Saint Seiya 4. Hokuto no Ken 5. City Hunter top 5 manga. 1. Lone Wolf and Cub. 2. Akira. 3. Barefoot Gen 4. Phoenix 5. Berserk. |
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05-11-12, 7:23 PM
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THIS QUALITY SHIT RIGHT HER. http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes Reinhard is so fucking moe. |
#56
05-11-12, 8:45 PM
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IllegalCyrus said: THIS QUALITY SHIT RIGHT HER. http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes Reinhard is so fucking moe. Hell yeah! Top 5 anime. 1. Ashita no Joe 2. Legend of the Galactic heroes 3. Saint Seiya 4. Hokuto no Ken 5. City Hunter top 5 manga. 1. Lone Wolf and Cub. 2. Akira. 3. Barefoot Gen 4. Phoenix 5. Berserk. |
#57
05-16-12, 2:57 PM
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BlackSabotage said: IllegalCyrus said: THIS QUALITY SHIT RIGHT HER. http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes Reinhard is so fucking moe. Hell yeah! thats based on a Novel not a manga my 11 main things i rate on 1 Impact on Impact on industry both the anime and Original Manga had 2 TV Ratings in Japan [ Gross for movies Unit sales for OVAs 3 Manga Ka of the Sourcework 4 how loyal the anime stayed to its source how well the compare to other big name in its genre 5 Seiyuu casting [ how many i know by voice i use the royal I here ] 6 Impact on General Pop Culture in Japan and the West 7 Impact on Otaku Culture in Japan and the West 8 Music[ Instrumentation] 9 merchandise sales 10 art style 11 Studio who produced the anime[ and what thay have done for the industry] |
#58
05-16-12, 5:18 PM
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I think is because most of the fans are young. Maybe 14 or 15 and don't know old manga and anime.  |
#59
05-17-12, 1:34 AM
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Enjolras1830 said: BlackSabotage said: IllegalCyrus said: THIS QUALITY SHIT RIGHT HER. http://myanimelist.net/anime/820/Legend_of_the_Galactic_Heroes Reinhard is so fucking moe. Hell yeah! thats based on a Novel not a manga He meant as an old anime. Top 5 anime. 1. Ashita no Joe 2. Legend of the Galactic heroes 3. Saint Seiya 4. Hokuto no Ken 5. City Hunter top 5 manga. 1. Lone Wolf and Cub. 2. Akira. 3. Barefoot Gen 4. Phoenix 5. Berserk. |
#60
05-17-12, 3:05 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 486 |
People are close minded/intolerant & it's hard to find most of the time. |