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01-11-12, 4:34 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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So Ginjou is actually fucking dead? Wtf Kubo. At least we get to see Soul Society again, and see some new captains.
 
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01-11-12, 4:40 AM

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That's so typical of Ichigo.
 
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01-11-12, 4:50 AM

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Did riruka just suicide? And the vizards became normal shinigamis? O_O
 
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01-11-12, 5:04 AM

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I'm not sure either if Riruka flew or suicide.

Well, now that this arc is finished Kubo should start thinking of ending the series and maintain it's glorious fame before is too late... if he chooses to continue it will kill the series.

He has to understand that Bleach was always inclined to have a base story type instead of an arc type, since Bleach isn't an adventure as One Piece is. I really wish he stops strangling to keep the series when there is almost nothing more to explain.
 
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01-11-12, 5:22 AM

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A very interesting chapter even though there was no "action".
 
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Am i the only one thinking this arc was worst than a filler ? lol. I'm not even watching anime now. Missed the old bleach... :/
 
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-MgZ_ said:
Did riruka just suicide? And the vizards became normal shinigamis? O_O


Thats what i'm thinking if she did do suicide i would be pissed off.

LOL @ people who want bleach to end now.

Before it ends i have to know about Ichigo's dad and Kisuke then it can end. LOL
 
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01-11-12, 5:41 AM

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Am i the only one thinking this arc was worst than a filler ? lol. I'm not even watching anime now. Missed the old bleach... :/


It wasn't that worst because it ended quick.

Now I'm curious about the capitan from the right at page 11, is it Rose or a new capitan?
 
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01-11-12, 5:44 AM

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Great Chapter. And some quite strange things:

- Ichigo asking for Ginjou's body. Anyone else think Ginjou will just somehow get up after out of SS or something?
- The moment they found out Ichigo is in SS, pretty much every captain rushed to Yamamoto and all of them were quite tense of Ichigo. its quite clear they sort of fear him or what he could do.
- They made sure to note that Ichigo still has the badge. Which makes sure it will be used somehow again.

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Did riruka just suicide? And the vizards became normal shinigamis? O_O


Vaizards are always normal shinigamis. Its not a "species" name, its a group name they took upon after leaving SS and frankly siince they have no grudge against SS, as I said before it makes sense for them to rejoin SS.

And no, RIruka did not suicide, she just FB'd forward with the whole light thing.

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I'm not sure either if Riruka flew or suicide.

Well, now that this arc is finished Kubo should start thinking of ending the series and maintain it's glorious fame before is too late... if he chooses to continue it will kill the series.

He has to understand that Bleach was always inclined to have a base story type instead of an arc type, since Bleach isn't an adventure as One Piece is. I really wish he stops strangling to keep the series when there is almost nothing more to explain.


NOTHING. TO. EXPLAIN?

Soul King's true purpose and existance.
Ichigo's birth.
Aizen's connection to Kurosaki family.
Mayuri's findings in HM.
Isshin's backstory.
Zeroth Squad and dark secrets of SS.
Royal Guards.
The reason Ginjou betrayed SS.

And etc, etc, etc.
 
01-11-12, 5:44 AM

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uhhh an alright chapter i guess bleach will be going on a 3 week break to collect data lool

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01-11-12, 5:45 AM

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Kira-vs-L said:
DeanLeonard said:
Am i the only one thinking this arc was worst than a filler ? lol. I'm not even watching anime now. Missed the old bleach... :/


It wasn't that worst because it ended quick.

Now I'm curious about the capitan from the right at page 11, is it Rose or a new capitan?


Yeah thats Rose i looked at some older pictures.
 
01-11-12, 5:51 AM

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I thought Riruka would stay with them if not too long but at least a few more chapters. I liked her character a lot and I'll miss her :(
 
01-11-12, 6:09 AM

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Rose, Kensei and Hirako are captains again to bad for love i guess^^
 
01-11-12, 6:15 AM

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i guess its just me not finding this chapter interesting.. maybe its my mood.. but its interesting ichi wants to bury ginjou in real world, tite might end up with some undead action later trollol
 
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The end is coming ^.^
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01-11-12, 6:38 AM

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SD_CV said:
The end is coming ^.^


errr, no its not? The manga is half-way done, we already knew that for quite some time, not to mention that there's quite a lot left to tell.
 
01-11-12, 6:41 AM

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so someone explain to me what was the point of the fullbring.
 
01-11-12, 6:44 AM

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so someone explain to me what was the point of the fullbring.


I think simply just for Ichigo to get his powers back.
 
01-11-12, 6:49 AM

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so someone explain to me what was the point of the fullbring.


It introduced a human-world part of Ichigo support group (with nel/grimm, etc being HM part and SS being ss part) for the possible end-arc against soul king. Not counting the yukio group and other stuff, with fullbring power existance in real world, human world is equally capable of participating in whatever comes latter as SS and HM are.

It explained Chad's powers.

It still has certain impact upon storyline.

It introduced us to the idea of pantheism and gave is a glimpse on smaller scale of what soul king should be capable of.
 
01-11-12, 7:01 AM

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Fai said:
gmgkng said:
so someone explain to me what was the point of the fullbring.


It introduced a human-world part of Ichigo support group (with nel/grimm, etc being HM part and SS being ss part) for the possible end-arc against soul king. Not counting the yukio group and other stuff, with fullbring power existance in real world, human world is equally capable of participating in whatever comes latter as SS and HM are.

It explained Chad's powers.

It still has certain impact upon storyline.

It introduced us to the idea of pantheism and gave is a glimpse on smaller scale of what soul king should be capable of.


There are rumors that Kubo-sensei said this arc has no point at all.
 
01-11-12, 7:01 AM

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Kira-vs-L said:
Now I'm curious about the capitan from the right at page 11, is it Rose or a new capitan?

I was like 'Oh, Aizen?'

Is it the end of fullbring arc? That was... so fast. But I liked Riruka.

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01-11-12, 7:05 AM

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gmgkng said:
so someone explain to me what was the point of the fullbring.


Create reason for Ichigo to regain his powers, make use of the badge he got so long ago, introduce Riruka (she fits into Ichigo harem with Inoue (Tatsuki might join with her too) and Rukia. It also created more questions than answers.

Also it was to complete "bestary" in the Bleach world. We had Visards (shinigami + hollow powers), Arrancar (hollows with shinigami powers), Ichigo (Human with shinigami powers) and finally fullbringers (Humans with power gained from Hollow).

Chad fits more the Fullbringers part but Inoue doesn't fit any of those with her broken power. She's like all in one but without combat ability.

Fun chapter. Nice to see SS make a Captain meeting for Ichigo. They welcomed him as their ally (his request was odd and I think the fear Ichigo a bit). I wonder what's going on in Ukitakes head. Was that badge really only to limit Ichigo reiatsu so he would not create more Inoue clones from the rest of his class mates?

Also Shinji hairstyle is odd as always. Did he keep the hair messed up to cover the scar that Tousen made?
 
01-11-12, 7:07 AM

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Ichigo looked so cute. x3
Can't believe Bleach is going on break for 3 weeks!! TT_TT
*cries*

If the fullbring arc is finally over, i'm happy. I didn't like it at all. It wasn't 'Bleach' like. and it made Ichigo look stupid. Dx

Sense when is Blondie-Vizard dude a shinigami again??? :O
and who was that guy Ichigo was talking too about becoming a captain? i've never seen him...i dont rememnber seeing him before..o.O
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01-11-12, 7:21 AM

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Ichigo looked so cute. x3
Can't believe Bleach is going on break for 3 weeks!! TT_TT
*cries*

If the fullbring arc is finally over, i'm happy. I didn't like it at all. It wasn't 'Bleach' like. and it made Ichigo look stupid. Dx

Sense when is Blondie-Vizard dude a shinigami again??? :O
and who was that guy Ichigo was talking too about becoming a captain? i've never seen him...i dont rememnber seeing him before..o.O


3 weeks!? DD:
 
01-11-12, 7:22 AM

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So we will get 3 weeks without Bleach? Wonder what will Kubo do on those 3 weeks.

No, I wanted Riruka to stay with Ichigo and his friends. This sucks.

I wonder what happened to Hiyori. Did she went to Soul Society and is she working with Urahara now?; well, doubt the latter since we haven't saw her yet.
 
01-11-12, 7:30 AM

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I think that it will lead us to the discovery that it is all Ichigo's mother dream, and inspired by that, she'll decide to be a mangaka, like that chick who created Twilight.

 
01-11-12, 7:32 AM

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Fun chapter. Nice to see SS make a Captain meeting for Ichigo. They welcomed him as their ally (his request was odd and I think the fear Ichigo a bit). I wonder what's going on in Ukitakes head. Was that badge really only to limit Ichigo reiatsu so he would not create more Inoue clones from the rest of his class mates?


I doubt its welcoming him as their ally.

The first thing captains did when Ichigo came was pretty much surround Captain Commander with themselves as if fearing what Ichigo would do.

Also Ichigo's request, not only strange, but has a very interesting deeper meaning: Ichigo is basically saying that GInjou's body does not belong to them, that SS does not deserve the right to bury him because in a sense, what Ginjou became IS SS fault.

Its a very nice and mature way of saying "I know how you view my kind and what you guys are capable to do and while I have no reason to be your enemy and you are my sort-of friends and allies, I do not blame Ginjou in slightest, I know what you can do and what you did IS your fault"
 
01-11-12, 7:33 AM

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So this is the end of this arc. We still don't know what's the deal with Ginjou, we didn't get to see his flashback, Kubo suddenly remembers that Vizards exist and Riruka discovers THE HEART and disappears into the blankness of Kubo's backgrounds. You won't be missed, you cruel empathy-lacking shallow bimbo.

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Bonds are stored in the memory...


No, bonds are stored in the bank. Silly Kubo.
 
01-11-12, 7:41 AM

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SHINJI! finally.I was waiting for this.I just knew they will become captains again!
Anyway, Riruka...? what the hell Kubo?! why didnt you let her stay with Ichigo -_- tch.She was one of best Bleach characters IMO.

I thought Ichigo will be more surprised by seeing Shinji, Rose and Kensei as captains.
3 weeks break?! fuck no.
 
01-11-12, 7:48 AM

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Fai said:
SleepnDreamn said:

Fun chapter. Nice to see SS make a Captain meeting for Ichigo. They welcomed him as their ally (his request was odd and I think the fear Ichigo a bit). I wonder what's going on in Ukitakes head. Was that badge really only to limit Ichigo reiatsu so he would not create more Inoue clones from the rest of his class mates?


I doubt its welcoming him as their ally.

The first thing captains did when Ichigo came was pretty much surround Captain Commander with themselves as if fearing what Ichigo would do.

Also Ichigo's request, not only strange, but has a very interesting deeper meaning: Ichigo is basically saying that GInjou's body does not belong to them, that SS does not deserve the right to bury him because in a sense, what Ginjou became IS SS fault.

Its a very nice and mature way of saying "I know how you view my kind and what you guys are capable to do and while I have no reason to be your enemy and you are my sort-of friends and allies, I do not blame Ginjou in slightest, I know what you can do and what you did IS your fault"


Yeah. The captains he met first had closer relationship with Ichigo yet they approached him with reserve. Kyoraku was silent and once Ichigo asked for the body he had that mean look in his eye. Also the rest of the meeting was left unseen. Kyoraku just reported to Ukitake badge status. Was Ginjo's body and Badge all Ichigo came for to SS?

You hit the nail with your reply ;)
 
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Fai said:
SleepnDreamn said:

Fun chapter. Nice to see SS make a Captain meeting for Ichigo. They welcomed him as their ally (his request was odd and I think the fear Ichigo a bit). I wonder what's going on in Ukitakes head. Was that badge really only to limit Ichigo reiatsu so he would not create more Inoue clones from the rest of his class mates?


I doubt its welcoming him as their ally.

The first thing captains did when Ichigo came was pretty much surround Captain Commander with themselves as if fearing what Ichigo would do.

Also Ichigo's request, not only strange, but has a very interesting deeper meaning: Ichigo is basically saying that GInjou's body does not belong to them, that SS does not deserve the right to bury him because in a sense, what Ginjou became IS SS fault.

Its a very nice and mature way of saying "I know how you view my kind and what you guys are capable to do and while I have no reason to be your enemy and you are my sort-of friends and allies, I do not blame Ginjou in slightest, I know what you can do and what you did IS your fault"


Wow, you obviously look deeper into this than I do! XD Everything you mentioned is definitely true though!!
 
01-11-12, 7:54 AM

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meh chapter and now 3 weeks break , wow.
 
01-11-12, 7:55 AM

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Fai said:
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The end is coming ^.^


errr, no its not? The manga is half-way done, we already knew that for quite some time, not to mention that there's quite a lot left to tell.


Next arc/saga will be the final chapter according to what Kubo said in an interview years ago. "There we be two more arcs after the arrancer arc, a small one and a big one."
 
01-11-12, 7:58 AM

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Ginjo's dead, not much to say, though the environment in SS was tense.
3 weeks for next chapter :/

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she finally learned to love herself causing her fullbring to activate and self destruct into nothingness. She died happy after finding
 
01-11-12, 8:08 AM

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is it bad that i had no freaking clue who kensei was? >_>;
 
01-11-12, 8:18 AM

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whatever, let us forget this and move on. in the end him losing his powers was pointless since he got new powers that are just as powerful.
 
01-11-12, 8:33 AM
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End of the arc and 3 weeks of break... nice.

At least it led Ichigo to get his Shinigami power back.
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eucalyptustree16 said:
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The end is coming ^.^


errr, no its not? The manga is half-way done, we already knew that for quite some time, not to mention that there's quite a lot left to tell.


Next arc/saga will be the final chapter according to what Kubo said in an interview years ago. "There we be two more arcs after the arrancer arc, a small one and a big one."

Yes, that is true, he did say that. When he said that he also said that it would only take three more years.
But mere weeks after that he completely disregarded the statement and said he was not even half-way done. And if you look at his interview for the 2012 Jumpfest he says that Bleach is only half-way done and it will be ten years before it finishes with an unknown number of arcs.


On the bright side though, KENSEI showed up! *cheers* and Komamura at least got a face cameo. With ten years of manga left = 500 chapters Tite Kubo should have enough time to give all the characters some love. I'm going to be reading this until I'm thirty! *weeps*
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WOW. Out of all the characters we never thought we were going to see again, Kensei was the first one we saw!! Dammit Kubo- I mean, well played you sob.

I'm so glad that he's remembered how to make chapters that aren't just fight-fight-fight. I cannot wait to see how everything ties together.
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01-11-12, 8:46 AM

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The end of an arc that so many people bashed for no good reason. It was really thought out and logical, as well as it revealed a lot of information... the thing is, that information wasn't SHOWN CLEARLY. It was between the lines. Most of people who have shallow reading skills and simply skipped through the pages instead of READING, didn't get most of the arc and just decided to bash it, instead of thinking that maybe they just didn't get what it was about.
The finest example is the confusion around Tsukishima's death (who CLEARLY died and almost a whole chapter was about it) or now Riruka's death (she CLEARLY didn't jump, it's CLEARLY visible).

If people don't get OBVIOUS and CLEAR messages, how are they going to get the ones hiding between lines? This arc was probably one of the best from Kubo actually, definitely one that he spent some thought on and decided on the ending from the start (unlike Hueco Mundo, where it was clearly drawn out as long as possible).

The way Ichigo proclaimed his independence from Soul Society (by asking for Ginjou's body, who was a substitute shinigami just like himself) was done really nice. Now they know that he trusts them, but they better not fuck with him or they'll be in for some good beating.
 
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I have no absolutely no idea how I should be feeling right now after reading this chapter. It's too open in too many ways for me to accept that we've been given any kind of closure.
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thank god thats over and done with, right?
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Am i the only one thinking this arc was worst than a filler ? lol. I'm not even watching anime now. Missed the old bleach... :/

i would say it was pretty close, the worst ark so far, it was ok at first though.
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All I felt after this was: "Finally Riruka is gone."
 
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Ichigo's being incredibly mature about the whole situation. Maybe I should use the word "incredibly", it should be about time for him to grow up. He's already mastered his powers. And it looks like his strength and the kindness within him is steadily healing and changing the Seireitei.

Damn, I'm interested to see where they go after the hiatus. I wonder if they're gonna give Ichigo what he wants, too.

 
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The end is coming ^.^


errr, no its not? The manga is half-way done, we already knew that for quite some time, not to mention that there's quite a lot left to tell.


Yes but It should've been over halfway through...Bleach( as the name suggest) is just Kubo giving people white papers for their money
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Riruka isn't going to show up again just like Nel.
 
01-11-12, 9:35 AM

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Riruka isn't going to show up again just like Nel.

All would be good except that we do know that nel, halibel and grimjaw will show up again :)

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The end is coming ^.^


errr, no its not? The manga is half-way done, we already knew that for quite some time, not to mention that there's quite a lot left to tell.


Next arc/saga will be the final chapter according to what Kubo said in an interview years ago. "There we be two more arcs after the arrancer arc, a small one and a big one."


yes and people fail to realize that:

FKT + deicide + everything till xcution + HM = ONE arc. :)
 
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Well you know, reading this week by week was at times difficult, but I suspect this will read better Vol to Vol.

Shame to see Riruka going as she was cleary the best thing out of this arc.. oh well at least she got a Volume cover. Cough Stark cough.

Anyway not a bad ending to a in my opinion not bad arc.

Btw anyone else enjoy the new hairstyles of some and the fact that Shinji kept his hairstyle created by Tousen back at the Aizen Fight.
 
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DeanLeonard said:
Am i the only one thinking this arc was worst than a filler ? lol. I'm not even watching anime now. Missed the old bleach... :/

I wouldn't say the ark was all that bad.
It was well ... different.
Changing the xcution of the story kinda matched the maturing of Ichigo.

But I am curious which direction this series may take - if this new style was a one-time-thing for this ark or if it will revert back to its old scheme - or maybe they experiment a little more with different styles.
 
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