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View Poll Results: Mawaru Penguindrum Episode 24 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 448 | 74.42% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 72 | 11.96% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 51 | 8.47% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 17 | 2.82% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 14 | 2.33% |
Voters: 602
#301
04-14-12, 10:19 PM
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FUUUUUUUUUUUCK! Dat ending where Kanba is back to being a child badass. The anime was a great watch. Somehow the flashback bits were always great and the voices were superb. I just wished that there was a happier ending. At least Mamiko Noto had a happy ending. ![]() |
#302
04-20-12, 7:27 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 228 |
Holy fuck this anime was absolutely amazing. When Kanba split the apple in half and gave a part to Shoma my heart just clenched, and then when Himari did the same.. Oh man I can't take this. 10/10. |ω・) The contract - is it worth the price? A soul pledged to the darkness Now I've lost it I know I can kill |
#303
04-22-12, 11:55 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 9252 |
I had my doubts about this anime, but it turned out pretty good in the end. I love it when an anime can pull off such a nice ending! xD Oh and this anime had such amazing OSTs... I must download the album! >:( Modified by OriginANIME, 04-23-12, 12:09 AM ![]() "We don't need memories, because I'm loving now so very much." |
#304
05-05-12, 5:19 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 |
So going by the ending, were Shoma and Kanba reincarnated? |
#305
05-05-12, 5:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 666 |
_fantasticmrfox said: So going by the ending, were Shoma and Kanba reincarnated? In a sense. They just switched fate lines. 運命の子たち・果実 |
#306
05-05-12, 6:59 PM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 38 |
sleeplesstown said: _fantasticmrfox said: So going by the ending, were Shoma and Kanba reincarnated? In a sense. They just switched fate lines. Oh, ok. Thank you. |
#307
05-18-12, 6:16 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 23 |
unknown_error said: Marvelous, Beautful, Anime of The Year 2011, 11/10, etc, etc. The only thing I will be missing are penguins, they've definetely powered this brilliant work :_: The penguins T_T!!!.. amazing anime :) I LOVED the penguins.. |
#308
05-23-12, 4:13 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 468 |
8/10 for me... Ok, now can someone explain the ending to me? I've been reading people's interpretations and stuff, but I still can't seem to understand. First thing I don't understand: The scene where red penguin shaped stuff comes flying out of Kanba's chest and start turning into apples. What happened there? o.o Second thing: Who actually saved Himari? Ringo's fate transfer or Kanba returning the penguindrum/apple? This is what I think had happened: The penguindrum represents existence and it's used to save Himari and it's somehow related to the apple in which Kanba shared with Shoma, and Shoma shared with Himari. Then they all returned it to Kanba to make the penguindrum/apple whole so he can be give it to Momoka to save Himari. So, Kanba disappeared because he has no penguindrum/apple and Shoma took Ringo's punishment because he's going to disappear anyway for the same reason as Kanba. If that's what happened then why did Ringo need to transfer fate if Himari is already saved? Ringo was going on about how she wants to save Himari's life with the fate transfer, so I don't think she used it to save the people on the train from the bombs. And if Ringo did use the diary to save people from the bombs, then why can't Himari remember her brothers in the new world? I think Ringo's fate transfer made Himari to never have met Shoma and Kanba, so she wouldn't become part of their family and receive punishment for their parents' crime. I'm guessing the punishment is Himari's sickness which caused her to die. |
#309
05-29-12, 7:21 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 35 |
10/10. Kanba x Shouma OTP. Anime of the year. |
#310
06-08-12, 10:32 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 999 |
Steins Gate anyone? The timelines changed resulting in a different reality without Himari ever meeting Sho and Kanba. Himari becomes a normal girl now without ever meeting her "brothers" but her memories of the previous timeline remain hidden within her. Although in Steins Gate, it is hinted that they eventually meet again, Himari might only remember her brothers by heart and never by memory. Damn it! I wanted Sho x Ringo to work out T_T |
#311
06-16-12, 4:08 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 41 |
This Ending made me cry but the reason is becuase they don't remember each other and does it explain why shouma and kamba where put in those cages? |
#312
06-17-12, 6:10 AM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 2 |
Rynia said: First thing I don't understand: The scene where red penguin shaped stuff comes flying out of Kanba's chest and start turning into apples. What happened there? o.o From what happens in Episode 18 I would say those things are stylized blood drops and seems to symbolize Kanba sacrificing himself to save Himari. It's also suggested throughout the show that Kanba's sacrifice is perhaps a bit hollow and has an element of self delusion. It seems that he is almost addicted to the thought of being a "Savior" - and willing to do quite horrible things to maintain the fantasy. When Himari showed him kindness and affection, and comforted him, that seemingly allowed his sacrifice to be transformed into something worthwile (the apples). Rynia said: Second thing: Who actually saved Himari? Ringo's fate transfer or Kanba returning the penguindrum/apple? All of it: Ringo's fate transfer; Shoma returning the apple and sharing Ringo's punishment; Kanba allowing himself to be shredded in the Child Broiler. In my understanding of the show, Himari's life is symbolic of the Takakura imaginary family (they're not blood related but they still love eachother). Every time Himari 'dies', that's a way of saying that maybe such 'families' - where people truly care about eachother even though they're not blood - cannot exist in the real world. When Shoma, Ringo and Kanba all chose to sacrifice themselves in various ways for the benefit of others, that means that such 'families' (friendship, really) can exist - and that's why Himari survives. |
#313
06-23-12, 11:17 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 165 |
Just finished the series. Personally, I loved it. It takes multifaceted storytelling to a whole new level. I think one of the best things about the series is how you can interpret it at so many different levels. A solid 9/10 from me overall. Rynia said: First thing I don't understand: The scene where red penguin shaped stuff comes flying out of Kanba's chest and start turning into apples. What happened there? o.o Second thing: Who actually saved Himari? Ringo's fate transfer or Kanba returning the penguindrum/apple? sherwoodanderson made some great points about these but as for my personal take on the matter: 1) The red penguin shaped stuff coming out of Kanba's chest and turning into apples represent the half of the penguindrum that was inside him all along. 2) Ringo initiated the fate transfer and was about to pay the price by turning into a human torch (dying) but Shouma was against letting someone he loves paying such a steep price to help his family so he took the punishment in her stead. The reason Kanba needed to fulfil the penguindrum was to remove the curse that plagued him + his real family + also Shouma and Himari. Someone made an awesome diagram explaining the movement/splitting of the penguindrum (the apple of fate that was shared throughout the series) here I'd like to add that I don't believe that the penguindrum was returned to the two siblings as shown iin the diagram. I believe it was used by Momoka to leave that library place (which might represent purgatory/hell/ place of unfulfilled desires/place for collection of all the bad thoughts of the world), thus leaving Sanetoshi and fulfilling his prophecy that he would never be able to be together with Momoka due to their differences. |
#314
06-29-12, 2:32 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 575 |
First 12 episodes kept making me more and more confused because problems kept building up after another problems. The last 12 episodes, vaguely answered it. Why does the number 95 keep appearing? This whole series was confusing lol. I liked it, but I have no clue what happened.....This diagram really helps here 8/10 I liked how Himari likes monkeys know instead of penguins LOL |
#315
07-02-12, 11:38 AM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 37 |
Kallen_R2 said: First 12 episodes kept making me more and more confused because problems kept building up after another problems. The last 12 episodes, vaguely answered it. Why does the number 95 keep appearing? 1995 was the year when Ringo, Kanba and Shoma were born (even in the same day) and was also the year (and day) when the terrorist attack (the "sin") ocurred, and when Momoka disappeared. Modified by arrozykamehameha, 07-13-12, 7:48 PM ![]() ヽ(*゚д゚)ノ My virtual covers: http://youtu.be/HhhSjhBMY2A http://youtu.be/3Qu6_ov-r4Y http://youtu.be/k20A5LQPJfQ |
#316
07-10-12, 3:34 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 1210 |
i am still not quite sure of how this happened, bitter sweet i suppose, the actual story didn't hit me, it was just the music and the voice acting that made it feel intense, could of been better, but still a good series, not sure what to rate yet |
#317
07-17-12, 12:20 PM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 99 |
Himari should have just died, Kanba commit suicide, Shouma and Ringo get married. That would have been dramatic enough for me. |
#318
07-19-12, 4:05 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1170 |
brb reading up on greek/jap literature to understand wtf really happened lol @ sheep clueless viewers jumping on the train of "OMFG I DON'T UNDERSTAND A DAMN THING, BUT I KNOW THIS ANIME IS VERY DEEP AND FULL OF STUFF I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND. 10/10!!!! It's a quite refreshing series for me.. 8/10 |
#319
07-21-12, 11:10 AM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1058 |
God dammit... That ending made me all teary-eyed. I don't think I completely understand everything, and I'm gutted Shouma and Ringo couldn't be together in the end, but overall - what a brilliant series. |
#320
07-25-12, 8:56 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 329 |
;_; Oh man...wow. First of all, this show's greatest merit is indeed that I have to keep thinking about it - and with the help of the ending, so many things fall neatly into place now. It just needs a bit of time to appreciate what was shown to you. However, of course there were flaws, some seemed kinda "blatant" at the end (Mario's role?), but this didn't actually managed to negate all the thing the show did perfectly. So, this is a 9/10 for me in the end. I enjoyed the show a lot. I've got to add that I get the feeling there are various people who didn't take the time to think about the entire show for a bit and/or didn't even pay attention to many things which would have helped them getting a bit of an enlightenment - which resulted in them going "Too confusing, it was random, didn't get it, it's bad". Seriously, if you failed to get what the 95 stood for or only now realized that "there was some episode with similar boys talking", or why the hat alone wasn't sufficient to keep Himari alive, then sorry, but either you didn't pay attention at all or you're really bad with symbolism and then of course this show is not for you. Giving this show ratings of 4 or similar just plainly states that you weren't willing to think about it in the slightest, imho. Of course there are a lot of things that still need interpretation in the end, but of course, that's almost entirely up to your power of imagination and willingness to put some thought into this. I would like to point out the last message Himari finds inside the bear (which still is the broken/stitched one, mind you - Shoma and Kanba weren't in this "world line", so it shouldn't be damaged - but we remember Himari's words "the stitched belly is a proof that we're family" - so they boys left yet another thing behind). I actually had to wonder whether this is the "message to a precious person" that the two promised to deliver when they were in those boxes. In the end, both of them survived, so they delivered that shared message....perhaps? =) So...are Shoma and Kanba reborn - or spirits wandering around in the afterlife? Who knows, it might point to the latter, but in any case, they produced happiness together and that's probably all that matters. Modified by Saorin, 07-25-12, 9:07 AM |












