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12-16-11, 9:25 AM

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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Looks like Lacie already knows that she's going to be killed by Glen? And Jack was used for killing time until she's getting killed...

Little Gil (more cheerful) and little Vincent in the end!! YAY!
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12-19-11, 2:18 PM

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I didn't really get the part with Gil and Vince in the end.

Well, okay. I feel like we gained a lot of information in this chapter but didn't really find out much.
 
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12-20-11, 4:05 PM

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LITTLE LACIE IS DAMN CUTE! I want her all for myself. ;A;

One interesting point: Look at Gil and Vince at the end, they are around the same age when they first met Alice, which means she's already born. There are this one theory that i don't believe anymore, but it kinda makes sense, she could be Lacie's daughter. I mean, Glen said to Jack that she used to run away from the tower all the time, so it's possible that she got pregnant in one of this adventures. Then, Glen could have taken the babies for his own purposes. Now, why Alice was born in the human world while Alyss wasn't, i don't know.

But i still don't get why Lacie must go to the abyss. I really don't/didn't want her to die.

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12-20-11, 4:22 PM

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Why is Lacie so effin cute? ; U;

I think it's sad she's going to die by her brother's hand. :c
&& Gil and Vince were kind of random.
 
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12-20-11, 6:02 PM

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If Alice is Abyss's daugther then it's probably why she said to Break to help her.( Or I just didn't remember sth correctly. And was Gil in blood? And I can't remember what light coming into body means? That he's a Baskerville?
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12-20-11, 6:20 PM

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Ok first I have to get this out of the way
Little Oswald is so adorable!! I just wanted to run up and hug him to death!! And when Jack is all scared of Oswald because he's trying to figure him out!! XD They are all just to adorable!!

Ok I'm done. On to the chapter! I have so many things to say/ theories that it's all just going to be a blurb of info!

Im really starting to like Lacie. It is depressing that she is going to 'die' soon. Did she lie to Jack when she said the ceremony was happening in a week? Because they kept saying in 5 days. Or was there another reason Oswald looked so shocked?

Speaking of Oswald, He becomes Glen in this chapter so Lacie will probably die next chapter I'm thinking. I wonder how he going to cope with sending Lacie into the Abyss. if he does that is.

Blond Glen likes to randomly appear next to or around people doesnt he? He is a real mystery. And this experiment he asked Lacie about. Does anyone else think it might be something to do with like her getting pregnant and having kids in the Abyss?! Because he is totally creepy enough to suggest that! and about the children of misfortune can Vince sense the core of the Abyss as well? Is that how he ended up down with Alyss with Gil during the tragedy rather than where ever the others went?

So in random theory time!

If when the Baskerville's say cast into the Abyss they mean the 'core' where did Oz go? Did he go there too or was it a fluke because they said even a Baskerville couldn't escape? and did Lacie merge with the core and thats what caused the disturbance to 'taint' the Abyss or was it just the twins? And is Gil getting called to be the new Glen like Oswald was? And was he just dirty or was that blood on his face and Vince's hand?! Maybe next chapter will have some answers!

I really like the flashback chapters but I wish they would go more in to the relationship between Oswald/Glen and Jack but I also want to know what is going on!! Ahhh it's so frustrating!! And now I have to wait another month for the next chapter! Im going to go crazy!
 
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12-20-11, 7:18 PM

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If when the Baskerville's say cast into the Abyss they mean the 'core' where did Oz go? Did he go there too or was it a fluke because they said even a Baskerville couldn't escape?

I think the core is where Alyss lives. Before when there was no one around, there were no way someone could actually get out the abyss, that's why those legends that Gil talked about in the first chapter started to be spread. Alyss is the one who can control time and the abyss, or something like that, so that's why she's probably the only one who can sent people out the abyss without making contracts.

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12-21-11, 4:09 AM

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OMG when i saw the last chapter .... i think Vincent is Lacie's son i mean the red eye and the light hair (creepy Glen is with light hair)
But that is just my wacky idea <.< i mean they would have noticed if Lacie was pregnant not much of a secret....
 
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12-21-11, 5:22 AM

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DeadlyStarfish said:
OMG when i saw the last chapter .... i think Vincent is Lacie's son i mean the red eye and the light hair (creepy Glen is with light hair)
But that is just my wacky idea <.<

I wonder if those Glen's eyes are gold just like Vincent's.
But then, if he turns out to be her son, what about Gilbert? Vince was trying really hard to find his "brother", doesn't seem like a lie to me. Unless they found each other while wandering in the streets.

And just a question, who said this Glen is blonde? Not the first thread discussion i see someone mentioning.

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12-21-11, 5:35 AM

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Liinah said:
DeadlyStarfish said:
OMG when i saw the last chapter .... i think Vincent is Lacie's son i mean the red eye and the light hair (creepy Glen is with light hair)
But that is just my wacky idea <.<

I wonder if those Glen's eyes are gold just like Vincent's.
But then, if he turns out to be her son, what about Gilbert? Vince was trying really hard to find his "brother", doesn't seem like a lie to me. Unless they found each other while wandering in the streets.

And just a question, who said this Glen is blonde? Not the first thread discussion i see someone mentioning.

Well Lacie has black hair maybe Gill is her son as well dunno and i did not say blonde i said light i meant that for me it is not black or even red since it doesnt look like Barma's hair
 
12-21-11, 5:56 AM

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DeadlyStarfish said:
and i did not say blonde i said light i meant that for me it is not black or even red since it doesnt look like Barma's hair

I wasn't referring the blonde part to you, sorry. 8D It was for BreakX and users that posted on the previous threads.

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12-21-11, 7:50 AM

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Liinah said:
DeadlyStarfish said:
and i did not say blonde i said light i meant that for me it is not black or even red since it doesnt look like Barma's hair

I wasn't referring the blonde part to you, sorry. 8D It was for BreakX and users that posted on the previous threads.

No problem^^ You are right indeed we do not know the color of his hair.
 
12-21-11, 9:10 AM

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Well that makes sence, for Gil and Vincent, but what about Alice? Is she a nother child what was made like an experience? It's sounds a little creepy that Lacie has 4 child:-O

For Gil I think he is soon going to become Glen:/
 
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Now i understand why was Lacie sacrificed to the abyss (can it really be called sacrifice? it sounded more like a death sentence ...) but then why did they let her live so long? And I hate that old Glen, just saying that she will be killed and thrown away to a little girl...
Anyway, is it just me, or that every child of misfortune should be sent to the abyss , and they sin is that they exist thing reminds me when Oz was sent there and was told that his sin is his existence?
 
12-21-11, 10:27 AM

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Barbara-chan said:
Well that makes sence, for Gil and Vincent, but what about Alice? Is she a nother child what was made like an experience? It's sounds a little creepy that Lacie has 4 child:-O

For Gil I think he is soon going to become Glen:/

Somehow the Lacie part made me laugh. XD 4 babies, poor her!
& isn't Leo the "new" Glen?

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Now i understand why was Lacie sacrificed to the abyss (can it really be called sacrifice? it sounded more like a death sentence ...) but then why did they let her live so long? And I hate that old Glen, just saying that she will be killed and thrown away to a little girl...
Anyway, is it just me, or that every child of misfortune should be sent to the abyss , and they sin is that they exist thing reminds me when Oz was sent there and was told that his sin is his existence?

Why was she sacrificed? I still don't get it. I don't like this Glen as well, his smile is just so fake.
And about Oz.. yeah, by the way, we still don't know who is the "real" Oz, just something that came up in my mind now.

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12-21-11, 10:47 AM

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Liinah said:
Barbara-chan said:
Well that makes sence, for Gil and Vincent, but what about Alice? Is she a nother child what was made like an experience? It's sounds a little creepy that Lacie has 4 child:-O

For Gil I think he is soon going to become Glen:/

Somehow the Lacie part made me laugh. XD 4 babies, poor her!
& isn't Leo the "new" Glen?

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Now i understand why was Lacie sacrificed to the abyss (can it really be called sacrifice? it sounded more like a death sentence ...) but then why did they let her live so long? And I hate that old Glen, just saying that she will be killed and thrown away to a little girl...
Anyway, is it just me, or that every child of misfortune should be sent to the abyss , and they sin is that they exist thing reminds me when Oz was sent there and was told that his sin is his existence?

Why was she sacrificed? I still don't get it. I don't like this Glen as well, his smile is just so fake.
And about Oz.. yeah, by the way, we still don't know who is the "real" Oz, just something that came up in my mind now.

One of the reasons for Lacie being sacrifised is that she is a child of misfortune and can hear the voices from the Abyss...but I'm a little confused because Break's eyes are read as well.Is he by any chance a child of misfortune? Can Break as well hear the Abyss? xDDDD
 
12-21-11, 10:52 AM

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Liinah said:
Barbara-chan said:
Well that makes sence, for Gil and Vincent, but what about Alice? Is she a nother child what was made like an experience? It's sounds a little creepy that Lacie has 4 child:-O

For Gil I think he is soon going to become Glen:/

Somehow the Lacie part made me laugh. XD 4 babies, poor her!
& isn't Leo the "new" Glen?

Licsi said:
Now i understand why was Lacie sacrificed to the abyss (can it really be called sacrifice? it sounded more like a death sentence ...) but then why did they let her live so long? And I hate that old Glen, just saying that she will be killed and thrown away to a little girl...
Anyway, is it just me, or that every child of misfortune should be sent to the abyss , and they sin is that they exist thing reminds me when Oz was sent there and was told that his sin is his existence?

Why was she sacrificed? I still don't get it. I don't like this Glen as well, his smile is just so fake.
And about Oz.. yeah, by the way, we still don't know who is the "real" Oz, just something that came up in my mind now.


Because she could interact with the "Core of the Abyss" and only Glen was allowed to do that. Humpty Glen said that her mere existence was a threat and she had to die.


I didn't realize Lacie was holding her stomach after the flashback with Glen asking if she'd like to help him with a project. - u -
It just ... looks weird, especially if it was that Glen. ew.
 
12-21-11, 12:01 PM

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Interesting chapter~ We got little Glen and Lacie, and little Gil and Vince, I think Mochizuki-sensei is trying to make our adorable scale explode.

So old woman Jiri- we haven't seen her around before. If she checked on Glen's, maybe Ozwald/Glen killed her? Or maybe she's still lurking around, even now, since the current Baskervilles apparently have someone above them.
And little Gil and Vince, coming to the Baskerville mansion... Yay? We already knew Gil was to be the next Glen, but I'd never really thought of the fact that he could see the same things Leo could see- the influence of the Abyss on the world, those sparkling lights. He's never made a hint that he can see them in the present... does this mean his Glen potential was stripped away or something?
And then we have Vince, or other child of misfortune. Was he to also be cast in the Abyss, like Lacie? He doesn't seem to know that, though it is kind of what Vince wants, anyway. And it seems awfully coincidental that both of the new Glen's had younger siblings who were children of misfortune.
This experiment, I do agree that it might concern the Alice twins. We still have no idea where they could have come from, if not from this, since Lacie was about to be slowly dismantled by the core of the Abyss. No matter what, this blonde Glen (and yes, I'm still calling him blonde Glen. He should have either white or blonde hair, so...) just keeps seeming more and more bad. But I withhold judgement until we get more information about him.

It looks like Mochizuki-sensei has placed a greater importance on eyes, too, with this 'child of misfortune' business. Plus, she emphasized Leo's eys, too. So that makes me wonder about several things:
-Leo's are different from most peoples, but the rest of the Glen's eyes seem strange in different ways. Gil has yellow eyes, Oswald has purple eyes, and blonde Glen has filled eyes. What's up with that?
-Vincent and Lacie, both who have red eyes, are children of misfortune, but we've never heard Break, who also has red eyes, called that. However he did come in contact with the Will of the Abyss, which has to be related to the Core somehow.
-Oz, who we've defined clearly as a green eyed kid, like Jack, has red eyes here, when he uses B-Rabbit's power at Yura's. Red, Lacie's eye color, the children of misfortune, does all this have a connection to B-Rabbit?
-And then back to Vince, so identifiable by his heterochromia, but with the connection between red eyes and contacting the Abyss, is his mixed eye colour symbolic of something? I dunno...
 
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DeadlyStarfish said:

One of the reasons for Lacie being sacrifised is that she is a child of misfortune and can hear the voices from the Abyss...but I'm a little confused because Break's eyes are read as well.Is he by any chance a child of misfortune? Can Break as well hear the Abyss? xDDDD

Thanks for the explanation :3
And about Break, that's true... But i don't think he can hear it, though he does have an interesting chain that can swallow things related to the abyss. Why would a chain like this exist? It's like the chain is rejecting things from the place she comes from, kinda weird.

And I was about to say that Lacie could have merged with B-rabbit once she was in abyss's core, but i forgot that Alice now is the B-rabbit. If she were only a human with contracted chain, Lacie could have been the B-rabbit. ;A; I want to know all those mysteries!
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Because she could interact with the "Core of the Abyss" and only Glen was allowed to do that. Humpty Glen said that her mere existence was a threat and she had to die.


I didn't realize Lacie was holding her stomach after the flashback with Glen asking if she'd like to help him with a project. - u -
It just ... looks weird, especially if it was that Glen. ew.

Thanks for the explanation as well. ~
And are you sure she's hugging her belly and not just her arm? I can't really tell. Is this panel, right?
omg, i really want little lacie

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12-21-11, 12:19 PM

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-Oz, who we've defined clearly as a green eyed kid, like Jack, has red eyes here, when he uses B-Rabbit's power at Yura's. Red, Lacie's eye color, the children of misfortune, does all this have a connection to B-Rabbit?

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Alice and Oz's eyes turn red when in B-Rabbit mode, not just Oz, right?

Lacie was also contracted to B-Rabbit. Her eyes were already red though.
 
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