Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence Episode 1 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence Episode 1 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 35 | 52.24% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 21 | 31.34% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 8 | 11.94% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 3 | 4.48% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 0.00% |
Voters: 67
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08-08-08, 12:28 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 10544 |
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Pretty good. This one is easier to understand its prequel as it is more straight forward, but at the same time still messes with your mind. 8/10 |
#2
08-31-08, 8:45 PM
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Offline Joined: May 2008 Posts: 172 |
I honestly don't have that much to say at the moment, but I will say that it had way too much 3D CG. |
#3
11-01-08, 5:53 AM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3301 |
Animation was brilliant (albeit in a different way with the use of CGI), as I expected. With the heavy dialouge, I was actually more confused with the plot in this film than in the prequel. Nonetheless, I really enjoyed watching it and understood the gist of what was happening. Plus, Crispin Freeman as Togusa was great. 8/10 |
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11-06-08, 6:46 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 3144 |
Excellent movie. But is good see the anime or read the manga to understand your tecnology and their implications. |
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01-03-09, 8:52 PM
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Offline Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 8 |
I liked this more than the first. Without the first, though, I doubt I would have enjoyed it as much. You have to understand the Ghosts to understand it, and the Major to understand the end. Half the dialogue was sayings, lol. What was weird is sometimes one character would comment on how another was saying so many quotes, but then that character would make a ton of them also. Some I didn't get, and others were very true! It was, overall, a great mystery story. You were given lots of theological human/machine stuff, but it threw you off until the end when everything was suddenly making sense and significant. I also enjoyed the action scenes, and some of the Die Hard-esque action humor (like in the gang hideout). Batou is tha shizz. ![]() |
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06-14-09, 12:33 PM
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Offline Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1217 |
loved the soundtrack when togusa got his brain hacked, as well as the concept of how he got his mind messed with. really liked the action scenes. not necessarily better than the action scenes from the prequel where the major was fighting the tank. |
#7
09-06-09, 7:19 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 3569 |
Quite a different thing from the first movie... I still liked the outcome... It had a different feel... Firstly all because the animation was waaaay to different form the first one... Yet it looked great and did it's work... Surprise and impress us with its awesomeness xD... Sure the thing was more straight forward than the first one, but heck it still had heavy philosophical stuff going on.... Definitely the contrast between Batou and his dog makes us realize that the difference between a natural and an artificial leaving being is big.... Batou is definitely the star of the movie.... Missed the Major for almost all the movie... until she suddenly appeared in that horrible body... I see... so Batou and Motoko are heavily linked huh? Nice one... Next time... Is GiTS: SACS turn!! XD Signs, Green |
#8
10-11-09, 3:54 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 236 |
What I want to mention, is that I dunno why some people say Innocence is somelike worse than the first part. Though it's good, IMO, GiTS has 2 little defects: inner episodes are connected in the way that makes you feel things are going too fast; the second thing is characters are less emotional and not fully revealed, too lifeless. Innocence has no such defects. But, to say the truth, it's more like standard movie than GiTS... though it's not a sign of imperfection for me. Enjoyment that I've had is commensurable with The Sky Crawlers', so up to 8.5/10 for it and 8/10 for the first movie. |
#9
11-25-09, 9:49 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3344 |
"Let one live alone doing no evil, care-free, like an elephant in the elephant forest" This quote will forever stay with me. First of all this movie felt a little confusing with its very heavy and filosifical diologue and complex plot (I thought so). However it was great, I really liked it, specially the beginning and the ending. I liked it better than the first, found it more interesting and entertaining overall, but I cannot rate this movie without taking into account the first one. While the first movie works out as a standalone work, one cannot understand and truly appreciate the second movie without watching the first one. Now this is out I call deep and thought provoking entertainment, this level of mind-rape can't be compared to the more fantastic and farfetch'd Evangelion one. I dunno, but to some extend Evangelion was only entertainment, while GitS felt a little more than that. You can also clearly see how this movie inspired future works as its first counterpart (although not to the same extent). Why I compared it to Evangelion I have no idea lol, maybe because both were deep and had a very psicological and filosofical theme. All I know is that I will have to rewatch these ones sooner or later, I'm pretty sure I missed a lot, these kinds of movies can't be fully understood in the first viewing (I'm not one of rewatching something to understand it better mind you, unless it's a short OVA or somethingl like that... or like this). Modified by Veethorn, 11-25-09, 10:08 PM |
#10
01-05-10, 2:09 PM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 761 |
It has "Ghost in the Shell" in it's name, we couldn't expect less. |
#11
01-09-10, 8:10 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 83 |
First of all,so far this is best anime i ever saw when it come to animation and details,its simply awesome.Now story,decent as every Ghost,but in the same time you got that feeling like when watching some horror movie(not during all time but there are moments like that).Its been long time since some anime left me with this uneasiness after finishing it.I can honestly say that this was on level of Alien 1 for example.I especialy liked how Batou was showed there,but couldnt expect less from this title... |
#12
02-16-10, 4:41 AM
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Absolutely amazing in every aspect. YouTube - I post all my gameplay (Kingdom Hearts, so far) videos here (mostly boss fights), I am currently running through Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix on Proud Mode. I am aiming to catalogue all boss fights in 1080p HD using PCSX2 to emulate and Fraps to record. Give my videos a watch and some constructive criticism. Thanks. |
#13
03-30-10, 8:27 PM
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Offline Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1054 |
It was fine, but I really like the first one better. The CG looked great, even though I'm not really a fan of CG in anime. I kinda think they went a little overkill with the quotes though :x |
#14
04-04-10, 11:07 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 1410 |
Ekvi said: It was fine, but I really like the first one better. The CG looked great, even though I'm not really a fan of CG in anime. I kinda think they went a little overkill with the quotes though :x If you don't like Philosophy, GitS isn't for you. YouTube - I post all my gameplay (Kingdom Hearts, so far) videos here (mostly boss fights), I am currently running through Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix on Proud Mode. I am aiming to catalogue all boss fights in 1080p HD using PCSX2 to emulate and Fraps to record. Give my videos a watch and some constructive criticism. Thanks. |
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04-06-10, 10:49 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 140 |
To be fair, I absolutely adore this movie, crazy philosophizing and all, and even I would admit that Oshii went a little over-the-top with the quotes, to a point that borders on ridiculousness. However, the general weight of atmosphere, utter visual mastery and stunning musical score ultimately save the film. Personally, I think it's a masterpiece, easily one of my favorite anime of all time. But I'll openly admit it's not for everyone, even people with good taste in movies. |
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05-07-10, 10:13 AM
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Offline Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 183 |
I thought this one was way better than the first. Maybe cause I watched this one dubbed, which I never do, but it was actually pretty good. Or maybe cause I just didn´t understand the first one. I loved the quotes used, and the animation was very very brilliant. Idk if I should watch the series though, and the third movie seems to be related to that serie, so idk if I should watch that either. But amazing, I really wonder why this is only rated a 7,9. Which is as high as some way worse done movies imo. |
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05-22-10, 2:15 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 650 |
I really don't understand why this is rated so low either. I found the movie to be surprisingly good, way above normal standards. mmyehಠ_ಠ |
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05-22-10, 4:09 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 172 |
Naratchi said: I really don't understand why this is rated so low either. I found the movie to be surprisingly good, way above normal standards. too deep for the people thats why. ![]() |
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08-20-10, 10:03 PM
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I was referenced. Plato is my friend — Aristotle is my friend — but my greatest friend is truth |
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12-04-10, 7:02 AM
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Offline Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 83 |
I love this movie. Both it and the first one are amazing, though I like this one more. I do agree that you really need to see the first one before in order to get all that's going on. |









