Manga/Character relations!
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11-27-11, 4:14 AM
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![]() ===================================================== Number in () = # of votes. Last update: post #108 NOMINEES Refused Characters' List Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 10-09-12, 2:52 AM |
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11-27-11, 4:16 AM
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I nominate Kurosaki, Mafuyu from Oresama Teacher. |
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01-15-12, 10:21 AM
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Ryoukoi said: I recommend mogami kyouko from skip beat! long life for non retarded female characters! |
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01-15-12, 10:50 AM
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Suh, Hyun-Bin "Ha Yae-Rim" Maora said: Does a series that is not Japanese counts? :B For this Korean (shoujo) manga, Love in the Mask, the lead girl , who was raised as a boy, is a bodyguard and later a gangster. Though some guys fall for her easily, she can manage to defeat people around her on her own, not needed help from any guy. |
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01-15-12, 10:52 AM
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Aso, Kira -BlackRabbit- said: Oh can I recommend Mars? Kira might be shy but she's far from "naive", "damsel in distress", "helpless" or any other such definition. |
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01-15-12, 11:11 AM
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I agree that those should be added; Mafuyu is one of the (mainly physically) strongest characters in the whole manga, she rarely cries (maybe... once? If at all) and she can take care of herself well instead of needing a guy to save her. Kyouko went through quite a bit of character development and is independent and confident in herself. She's nowhere near a "damsel in distress". I nominate...
Thank you! Your votes have been added! Edit: Completely forgot about shoujo 'OTL Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-17-12, 8:21 PM ![]() |
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01-16-12, 9:50 PM
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I nominate Kurosaki, Mafuyu , Suh, Hyun-Bin "Ha Yae-Rim",Kyouyama, Anna, Tsumura, Tokiko and Mogami, Kyouko Admin: Thanks! ^^ You're the second person to recommend Tokiko & Kyouyama... but unles I'm mistaking, Busou Renkin & Shaman King are not shoujo. So they will not be added. Your votes have been added for Mafuyu, Hyun-Bin & Kyouko ^^ Arigato!!! Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-17-12, 7:15 AM |
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01-17-12, 8:32 AM
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Ok! So I finally got around to some recs :D Manga Cat Street Nominated Flower of Evil Nominated Hana no Namae Nominated Hana Yori Dango Nominated Kimi wa Pet Added Midnight Secretary Added Shiawase Kissa Sanshoume Nominated Watashitachi no Shiawase na Jikan Nominated Character Aoyama, Keito Nominated Eun, See-Wah Nominated Yamaguchi, Kumiko <- Won't nominate de manga since it doesn't focus on the shoujo aspect Added Mizushima, Chouko Nominated Makino, Tsukushi Nominated Iwaya, Sumire Added Satozuka, Kaya Added Todd, Miriam <- again, manga doesn't really focus on the shoujo so I won't suggest it Added Takamura, Uru Nominated Mutou, Juri "Sylvia" Nominated Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-17-12, 8:47 PM |
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01-17-12, 11:26 PM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 |
Kurosaki, Mafuyu is a must. *hands down* She uses masculine speech (at the start as a joke, but it still counts~), cross dresses as Natsuo, stands up whenever she gets beaten up (which is rare, btw), has a large group of delinquents as followers (who she considers "brothers" - or something along the line), is idolized by other delinquents and most importantly, kicks asses. She isn't also the type to hold back, I reckon. <3 And for all the reasons above, and many others, including badass male characters, I also nominate Oresama Teacher. ^ Thank you for that lengthy explaination :) You're absolutely right, I'll just add her to the character relations For the others, I don't have the confidence to vouch for/deny them, as either I don't know them or while I don't think they're worth it/I have doubt about their ability (Love in the Mask is a case in point), I can't say for sure. About that, if you think a manga/Character should not be added, you should vote it down :) It's ok to do so ;D I haven't read Love in the Mask so I don't know but feel free to let your opinion be heard Say, does the manga have to be shoujo? I'm quite confused... <- Yes, the manga HAS to be Shoujo although I would accept Josei as well. Other characters I'd like to nominate: 1. Kanoko Naedoko Her profile speaks the truth, honestly. She isn't physically strong like Mafuyu, but she uses her own observation power to fight bullies (without any help from the male characters, obviously). She takes great pleasure in observation cliches in school life, so you can see she's quite a bit whimsical and nasty (in a good way). Other characters in the manga Kanoko on are quite interesting and unlikely to give readers the "irritated" feeling, so it'd be a sin if I didn't nominate Koi Dano Ai Dano and Warau Kanoko-sama as well. ^ All 3 will be added tonight when I get home. With that explaination as well as the character description, I don't feel they need to be put up for voting. 2. Hin-Dan Mon Mmm... this is quite tough, actually, because I read about her a long time ago, and anything I remember is likely to be spoilers. Anyhow, Prince or not, to her he's still a human, and when a human doesn't play nice, prepare to be spited. She also gets bullied, and while not physically strong, fights back against the villains' surprise and embarrassment. ;D I guess she can act a bit haughtily sometimes, but she still knows how to behave like a real adult. Her definition of love is freaking anti-stereotyped (you'll have to read to know, I'm afraid, since this is where she totally left a strong impression on me). ^ Nominated, will also add the manga to the nominees 3. Matsuri Hanyuu For starters, she can kick asses. While she does hold back sometimes but when it's her life or others' on the line, and in imperative situations, you can trust that she won't let anyone pin her down. Other things I can say about her are that she can be selfish, but she grows and learns to act for others and that she doesn't cry for no reason. [Note: the manga is listed as shounen, but there are romantic relationships.] ^ Hmm... technically it's not a shoujo/josei. I think the relationship should take a great deal of the story to be added. I'll have to read it to decide but that might take a while; gomen! 4. Hikari Hanazono As far as I'm concerned, as well as her amazing capabilities thanks to hard work, she has the will of eternal, blazing fire. XD She refuses to give up, so no matter how many times she loses (which is a lot, lol), she will get up with great vigor. In Special A, Megumi Yamamoto, Finn Koupe Shuzette, and others are also quite great in their own way, so I recommend this manga, too. <3 ^ Nominated ^ 5. Nako Yoshino She doesn't possess the coolness level of Mafuyu or Kanoko, and while she's described to be optimistic, she doesn't go all whiny and is still far from the stereotype. ^ Nominated ^ 6. Sheila She can blow up a whole village, and is the cause of fear among humans, which leads to the hero's adventure. That alone is already awesome, I reckon. Sheila, as the Demon Queen feared by even her own race, is also notorious for her "simple" way of thinking and handling problems (at the beginning). She does grow as the story progresses, but that doesn't stop her from being awesome. [Note: while it's categorized as "shounen", this manga does have romantic relationship, too.] As other characters in the same manga as her are also nice, Superior and Superior Cross are also fun to read (and guarantee to keep you away from annoying stereotyped girls, probably). ;3 ^ Hmm... technically it's not a shoujo/josei. I think the relationship should take a great deal of the story to be added. I'll have to read it to decide but that might take a while; gomen! 7. Tsukasa Kozuki She cross dresses as a guy and fights even better than yakuza. She has a strong sense of justice and gets crazy sometimes, but it's definitely not the type of irrationality of meek, mushy girls. She isn't easily beaten down, but when she is, she stands up quickly (aside from the last few chapters, I think, but it's excusable.) ^ Nominated ^ Also, I'd like to nominate Asago Sumon as well. While she's not listed as a main character, she's from a yakuza family, so well... she does know how to fight and behave properly. ^ She'd have to be VERY present since this club is about girl leads and not their best friends or smtg... guess I'll have to read it too :3 ^ Tokyo Crazy Paradise, therefore, deserves a nomination, don't you think? ^ Nominated ^ 8. Kumiko Yamaguchi Another character from a yakuza family. Obviously, her martial arts skill is way above any high school boy. As a teacher, it's guaranteed that she knows how to handle a situation properly. ;3 [Note: it's listed as "Josei" and "Romance", so I'm not sure if it's acceptable, but well...] ^ Ah! Yes I debated on Yamaguchi as well :D But here's what I figured, it is listed as Josei/Romance but the romance is barely part of the story. Theerefore, I added Yamaguchi but not the manga :) 9. Iku Kasahara She hides the fact that she joins the Defense Force from her parents, and becomes the first female to be in the Task Force. She outruns men, and physically speaking, she's said to be the best in the girls and better than many men. She has a strong sense of justice, and refuses to give up. She does cry, but well... it's still in the acceptable level. ^ She seems a little meek to me xD I nominated her, we'll see what the other members think :) Asako Shibasaki is a friend/roommate of Iku, and she's more of a terrifying character with her intelligence gathering power. XD ^ Hmm secondary character... not adding. I will nominate the 2 manga though :) I'll add more as I have time. I apologize for the wall of text. x___X I'd hate if I couldn't point out any reason for my nomination, though. Heheh, that's ok, I like your input :3 It took me a while to go through it all but I'm glad you're getting involved in the club ^o^/* Please visit often and vote on our nominees oh and of course, nominate to your heart's content! :D Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-18-12, 5:02 PM |
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01-19-12, 2:54 PM
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Guys, Mogami Kyouko already has 2 votes... should we add Skip Beat as well? |
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01-20-12, 1:50 PM
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Okay. :3 No worries. But if only shoujo/josei are allowed, I think it should be put up in the first post, too, so as not to cause confusion? :3 Also, what about those with Romance tags? You're right, I should clear this up. I'll edit the first post, ty ^^ I haven't read Skip Beat yet (it's been on my bookmark list like forever, lol; I suppose the sight of harem makes me cringe and feel reluctant to read the manga), so it's hard for me to say. But then if the manga has two or more strong female characters, I feel that it should be added. ;3 Hmm, yeah I guess... the thing is, it's important that the Lead Girl doesn't turn into a stereotype later into the story. So I really need someone who read it. I'm so sorry for the wall of text. >__< I'll make sure to condense my explanations. You're giving me so much work! xD (it's a good thing! But yeah, keeping it short is good too :3) So here we go... 10. Asahi Kouga If I have to make a mentaphor, Asahi Kouga is somewhat like Tsukasa Kozuki. She can fight, and she also works as a bodyguard. She's straightforward, refuses to give up easily and I don't remember seeing her cry (at least for long) in the manga. There's also another bodyguard girl who is her rival (so you can see that she's pretty awesome as well) appearing later in the manga. Therefore, I'd like to nominate Grand Sun as well. Character and manga Nominated 11. Ito Miura Her profile covers pretty much I'd like to say, really. I'm not sure if she did do any butt kicking in the manga, but I do remember she did some pretty amazing stuff, even going so far as to help the male lead from a critical situation. Character Nominated although her description mentions : "Throughout the series, Ito starts to become more feminine, because she wants to be the perfect girl for Makoto, at first unconsciously then with more intent." It doesn't mean she turns into a hopeless gal but I will nominate her and see what others, who read it, have to say :) [Note: Having read Grand Sun, W-Juliet, Gokuraku Doumei and Michibata no Tenshi, I notice Emura's works tend to have strong-willed female characters. ;) Though I'm tempted to nominate the other two as well, these so far haven't given me as much satisfaction as the others, and I kinda want to save my votes for the best of the best that I can think of.] I like that approach :) 12. Ran Kurono To begin with, she can fight, aside from the fact that she has the "nerve" to fool the other knights and dresses up as a boy. As her profile shows, she's calm and composed. And even when she's confessed to, that doesn't stop her from fulfilling her duty magnificently. I also consider nominating Hana no Kishi, as aside from Ran, there's Sei Ohtori, but something is bugging me. Well, feel free to put it up for nomination if you think so, though. ;] Yes Ran is already into the Relations of the Club although I wouldn't say she is calm and composed... if it wasn't for Sei, I'm pretty sure she'd loose her temper often xD Hana no Kishi is also in the relations. As per Sei Ohtori, sh'e not the lead chacter and while she is present quite a bit, her character is not sufficiently developped. 13. Aoyagi from Hybrid Berry (there's no profile for any character, so... I'll try and see if I can get at least two for the main characters up.) So um, unfortunately, she doesn't fight (this is a sports manga, after all. XD) However, later on she cross dresses to join the baseball team, at first only to get close to the boy she likes (but they always argue whenever they see each other.) However, she does have a talent for baseball, and helps out the team a lot eventually. Not sure but we'll see what others think! Nominated 14. Hinata Saotome Mmm... if I have to sum up her characteristics, she's probably the strong-willed, enthusiastic type, who always think of others and try their best in whatever they do. Other girls in Usotsuki Lily are quite interesting (and occasionally as wacky), too, so that's why I also nominate the manga. Oh that looks interesting, I'll add to my Plan to read :) Nominated [Note: Ayumi Komura also has another work called Mixed Vegetables which I reckon is pretty good with decent characters. I must say Hanayu didn't leave as strong an impression on me as the other two girls, though.] 15. Hime Kino Hime is the headstrong, cheerful, caring, idiotic kind of character. Her high goal makes her the type that refuses to say no easily and will slap herself to stand up and keep on moving. Other girls in the manga are quite amusing, too, so I'd like to put [url=http://myanimelist.net/manga/14633/Seiyuu_Ka—!]Seiyuu Ka—![/url] up for nomination as well. Character and manga Nominated 16. Chiemi Yusa The Tsundere type - I can't count how many times poor Hirata had to grin and bear with her punches and kicks. She's strong willed, honest, idiotic and caring about her friends (perhaps a little too caring). She got on my nerves, but even so, she's definitely not the stereotyped, and I expect her to grow as the story progresses. nothing against Tsundere but the question is, what's her behavior towards the "love" aspect of the story? If she becomes a slave to her emotions, I don't think she should qualify... basically, how does her character develop? About Toshokan Sensou... (Iku is indeed a little meek; but that aside, she's brave and strong, so that's why I still nominate her.) the two manga for it are Toshokan Sensou: Love and War and Toshokan Sensou: Spitfire!. ^^" The later is listed as Shounen, though. Spitfire and Toshokan Sensou I won't add as they're not Shoujo nor Josei, the Love and War has been nominated, people will vote on it :) Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-21-12, 10:04 AM |
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01-21-12, 9:00 AM
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I can only agree on "Hanazono, Hikari" and "Ito Miura" since Special A and W Juliet are the only among those manga I've read >< Hikari is the hard-working and ambitious type - even going as far as not wanting to lose to the guy who ranks first in each subject (<- and surpassing him in P.E. would be even harder considering she's female XD). I think she did wrestling, too... And well, Ito is the tomboyish kind (especially at the start) and of course strong-willed~ Thank you! Your votes are in! :) More nominations:
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01-21-12, 9:43 AM
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I also agree with Hanazono, Hikari "Miss Rank Two" :) In the anime she's strong and hardworking, and doesn't give up even though Kai always beats her XD. She's also a really big tomboy. Vote counted! I also nominate Misaki Ayuzawa, she's really strong and stands up for all the girls at her school. She can fight and scare the boys in her school. I think if she's nominated the anime should go as well on the list. Kaichou wa Maid-sama Alright then, I'm nominating! :) More nominations: Characters -Kyouko Mogami Vote counted! Anime -Saiunkoku Monogatari No shoujo/josei tag :( Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-21-12, 10:26 AM |
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01-21-12, 2:18 PM
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Face_Faith said:
Hmm, I haven't read the last few chapters (only up to # 57) because I always forget what the previous one was about as soon as there's a new release XD So maybe she's different now... I dropped that manga as well but someone else nominated her so I've added it to the list... we'll see :) More nominations:
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01-21-12, 4:28 PM
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I vote for Keito Aoyama I also nominate Yukino Miyazawa from Kare Kano ^ Nominated ^ Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-23-12, 5:47 AM |
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01-21-12, 8:08 PM
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Regarding Ito Miura... Well I nominated her, we'll see from there. Maybe if I have time to read it I'll decide but you guys gave me soooo much reading T.T hehe Regarding Ran Kurono and Hana no Kishi... Sei & Rei rawr! :3 Re-suggestion? She's not nominated because she's aready in the character's relation ;D Regarding Chiemi Yusa... Also, Usotsuki Lily 0 is just a one shot prequel (more like a bunch of random side stories to me, honestly), so I think you might want to add Usotsuki Lily only to avoid the clutter. ;3 I'll leave it for now and try to read it this week On a side note, I didn't notice Misaki Ayuzawa was already on the list! I have one of my votes go to her please! I agree with everything rose93 said about her. :D Vote counted No new nominee this time so as to avoid flooding you and the list with my request~ XD Jk!I have a few in mind, but I'm lazy. However, if it's possible to add mangaka, then I think Shigeyoshi Takagi's works (mostly one shot or shot stories) are quite enjoyable, such as Bara to Dangan, Hyakujuu Kingdom (I especially like the one shot Bitter Trap in this manga) and Hana ni Arashi. I made a thread for it, please post it here Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-23-12, 5:53 AM |
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01-23-12, 6:53 AM
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Since characters names are harder to remember, I re-organized the thread by manga. If a character is added, it's manga is also added. Unless it's a collection of one-shots -Your devoted Admin :3 Modified by -BlackRabbit-, 01-29-12, 1:55 PM |
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01-23-12, 1:28 PM
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01-24-12, 1:54 AM
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I was talking about my suggesting Ran again without checking the list first. XD Thank you for your hard work! <3 I reckon I should start reading the ones I haven't too, so at least I can help you a bit with the list. But I have a feeling that any manga with a girl that irritates me even just one bit will get a fail from me right away. x___X" |
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01-24-12, 5:55 AM
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Ahahah, that's ok! There's a lot going on in this club right now, it's hard to see everything ^^ You're welcome :D Oh! Please do! hehe, we need lots of votes! And if the girl irritates you, you should vote her down. The goal is not to have the longest list possible, but the most accurate list ppossible. - Your devoted Admin :3 |




