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This music in this episode was 'fabulous max'! xd

I really loved this episode. The flashback scenes were beautiful <3 I'm even more confused about the relationships, but nothing really surprises me anymore with this anime XD Can't wait for next week!

I need all the new ED's NAO!!! O_o This one was awesome.

One of the better epsiodes as of lately. I am a bit sad that they seem to be pushing Sho x Himari so hard and Kanba is starting to be portrayed more and more in a negative light :c

stop with the sho-chan x himari please><
kanba is being left out now...

I really want to see how this anime will end.. especially when they have so many stuff to explain.. like the relationship between momoka and pedo-sanetoshi o-o

and of course, what the penguin drum is.. which they already hinted it in ep17 :D

I do not accept ShouxHimari...ShouxRingo please...I'm so use to them being paired and arguing, lol.

With 4episodes left, I wonder how everything is gonna end, I really don't have the slightest clue still wtf is going on...Wasn't it finding the penguindrum? or is that now Shouma and Himari's love..? And anyone see the similarities with Shouma/Momoka? They both seem to have things that "normal" children wouldn't posses..The fruit of faith and the diary...Regardless, I love this show and all it's unanswered questions that never seem to end.

Very true, the ost is amazing so far but the music specifically in this episode was just phenomenal. I especially love the women's voice singing that glorious "ah" in the background.

Amazing episode. Kind of need a breather so far because as the following part in the spoiler happens I cannot wonder but dreadfully realize and fully accept at 100% there is incest already done. If Kanba’s father got called by Natsume father than would it imply incest? Considering a kiss has already been done I guess things are very solid. I could never imagine it but instead reminded myself of that episode where Natsume kissed out of the blue Kanba except now we know they both have the same father. While Kanba x Himari is totally down the drain somehow.

OH THE IRONY! Hohoho! Still most amazing meeting in such a small apartment.

Apart from the sudden realization of the irony I really did T_T at the following,

Himari! Poor poor Himari! Her parents must have been assholes for throwing her away like that! I truly am very thankful of Shouma in the spoiler the man earned his respect to say the least. He ran all the way to that place even as Himari was in the transport going there. I cannot comprehend how can parents throw their kids like that. In fact for the first time I saw in my mind along with this symbol here that this is not a broiler but a thrash compactor or if you rather have a paper shredder. The down reality I concluded is something that makes meat out of your body to be fed to lions/tigers in captivity. That is sick really. Moreover they made the child broiler more explicit as in details are better with grinders teeth being seen better, the shards are much more there and projected very fast out along with as they do that the mixing of the shards being stuck on the grinder plays out even worse. Thank the author for being not graphical. In reality those would flesh/crap stuck on those. They would be bloody red too.

Comes Shouma in the spoiler a recommendable save considering that spoiler proves he got wounded. What I don’t understand is why? The shards should not do that at all since they are not glass but are to represent something else. In fact from the very start of Shouma’s meeting of Himari it was marvellous. Shouma already had an apple from the start and it looked like he was playing with it. From the looks of how Himari was acting in the spoiler it really goes back to the parents being assholes and not taking care of her, hence her roaming around the building freely. It tells me a lot as Shouma finds Himari of her expressions in the spoiler surely looks like depression to me. Most likely of being given up on. Despite that Shouma’s offer of the apple got still rejected strictly out and I was wondering how did Himari suddenly disappear here.

The cat arc was quite nice. In fact I was surprised that Shouma did bring milk and fed the cat of it. While that place where that cat was is really ghetto. The best of that segment were Himari smiles/shy faces in the spoiler

now those were MOE overload on me. That was way too MOE. Still my favourite is the following,

That Himari x Shouma part with the scarf was fabulous max possible but not at that age. Shouma did have a nice face here. In thee end I am just glad Himari is all happy again in the spoiler

and that itself is a great warm teary feeling for her. Maybe more later.

BTW Image Stitches have been done in the club:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=368727
Himari looks really nice.

End art in the spoiler

actually intrigued me a lot considering its Shouma with Himari.

The Child Broiler episodes always seem a bit slow, I nearly forgot about Momoka and Survival Strategy. I hope everything will be adequately covered by the end of the show.

I'm guessing that Kanba and Shouma are half-brothers since the dad seems to be interacting with both of them in the flashback. Natsume and Kanba are legit siblings, but what about Mario? Why would Natsume, the older sister, call her supposed brother Mario-san?

Can't complain about them pushing ShoumaxHimari, because if it is romantic, it seems very one sided to me; he's always thinking about family after all.
While I'm on the subject of those two, I couldn't stop being aware that they gave the kitten the same name as Himari's penguin.

The 'Kanba and Masako are siblings' thing is interesting, and kinda changes my opinion about her motives... even though I'm still questioning what exactly it is she wants and why.


Anyway, I'm very interested in Kiga/ the former Penguin Force's motives. Kenzan's speech at the beginning is full of terms we've heard before, but little context for them. He's talking about being in a frozen world, but that the 'Flame of Hope' is burning strong; considering how fire is associated with Momoka (...and, in the opening, Ringo), they want to do the whole world jumping/changing thing?

LOL! What fabulous trolling! I remember all the discussions that exploded over that censored kiss in Ep 1 and how some people outright dropped the show because they thought it was incest. Well, they had us fooled!

Kanba and Masako being related and the tile "because I love him!" makes Ep 10 all the more creepy. I find Masako's obsession with her onii-sama more disturbing than the girls' from Utena since they didn't go as far as she did. It seems that Kanba might have also been disowned by his grandfather since the younger brother Mario is recognized as the heir to the Natsume family.

I'm still supporting Shouma/Ringo, but the flashback quite moved me. Shouma's conversation with Ringo denoted guilt more than love over inviting Himari to the Takakura family and getting her dragged into this. Also, Himari's exchange with Sanetoshi hinted at her not willing to pursue a romantic relationship with Shouma, and her making apple curry at the end might be hinting at her wishing him and Ringo happiness.

Spoilers for Utena and the title of Ep 22:



Kanba was the one narrating the preview, which might hint at the next episode being centered around him, though he always uses "Ore" to refer to himself and in the title tehre's a "Boku" which is always used by Shouma, Sanetoshi and Tabuki.

Very good episode,we got confirmation of many things.

First Kanba/Natsume are confirmed siblings something many people already suspect,still as some say they had already kiss so "incest is in the air" or maybe there is still something else we will see.

Shouma/Himari flashback was amazing the OST was on top form specially the scene when Shouma rescue her that was a amazing song i wan the OST NOW!!.
Also the new couple rise and Kanba got kick in the nuts by Shouma x Himari but......no just NO Shouma x Ringo = win but will see T_T


The meeting place was interesting but still obvious since most of the time all secret meetings are in shit holes.

With many questions answer but at the same time new ones rise...4 more to go lets hope they keep the lvl until the end.

BTW Pedo doctor is win.

Interesting episode. Cute flashback moments with Sho and Himari = ♥

And so I was right about thinking that Kanba and Masako could be related. I wonder how Sho is related to them. 'Cause when they saw him playing outside...I think Masako said something about "our" father but I'm not sure if she meant "our" as in her, Mario and Kanba, or whether Sho was included in the "our". Though it's possible that Sho is their cousin (which is another theory I have).

Only four more episodes. I wonder how it'll end.

Two episodes and the show destroyed two other shipping that is built up in 18 episodes.


IKUUUUUUUUUUHAAAAAAARAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

While the Shouma/Himari scenes are cute Shouma/Ringo is way better.

I guess I can feel a bit better shipping Kanba/Himari now since it isn't incest cause they are not blood related.

Can't wait to see what happens next.

Shouma why you so pathetic and negative? The useless one gets a harem while Kanba has only Masako.

hmmmm..This episode explains that Kanba is Masako & Mario's brother,we are not actuallly explained that they are real siblings or step ones but my guess is that they are not real siblings since both Masako & Kanba have same age(am I right?) or atleast the age gap between them is small.So this makes Shou & Kanba half-brothers.Himari isn't part of the family but she is adopted with Shou's help.

A little worried about how they're gonna end this, with four eps left and all. I do, however, have high hopes that they will end this in Fabulous Max fashion, so yeah, still awesome ^^

Beautiful episode, as a shipfag - I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SHIP ANYMORE! D: I think I'm still gonna stick with Shoma/Ringo and because of the latest episodes I ended up shipping Kamba/Himari, too, even though I thought Kamba's feelings were kind of creepy at first.
Well, shipfaggotry aside. One thing makes me wonder. Does anyone have any idea why the meeting led by Kenzan was Penguin Force's at first, and then Kiga group's? Someone said Kiga is the former Penguin Force, but on the day of attack Kenzan had a Penguin Force logo on the back, not Kiga's. It could be the other way around (Penguin Force was called Kiga before), but...
I ended up thinking that these are parallel worlds, in one of them Kenzan's group is Penguin Force and his children are Kamba, Masako and Mario, and in another it's Kiga and his son is Shoma. And then Momoka messed around with it a bit and it all changed. But idk idk I don't know who is whose sibling and stuff anymore ><
Also, it surprised me that Kamba is older than Masako, somehow I thought Masako is a bit older than the rest of cast (like, 17 or 18).

Wow, that was the most beautiful anime episode, I've seen in a long time. =)

But damn, just when the cat got my name, it died. ._.