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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
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4 out of 5: Liked it
 
14 21.54%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
4 6.15%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
2 3.08%
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11-21-11, 10:32 AM

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This was a very interesting episode i really loved all those arguments.
It's a shame that in the end it all turns out that the Catholic church wants to rule everything story again then again this does go hand in hand with history so they aren't of on that part.
I liked Masazumi's way of dealing with the Pop using his own words against him at one point.
It's a shame that the Pope interrupted her in her speech tho it was very nice and she finally has some confidence.
As for the story line it's starting to get really interesting now i wonder how it will turn out.

Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.

 
11-21-11, 10:35 AM

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Aversa said:
Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.


No way, he deserves a medal for that. :D

Anyways, looks like the goal now is to get all the Sins/Emotions and return them to Horizon? They're either gonna rush that or pull a dues ex machina because there's no way they can get all of them within 4 episodes.
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11-21-11, 12:51 PM

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Aversa said:
Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.
Euh what? No not at all buddy. Sure it was shameful and all but her proved in the face of the old geezer that she is a girl. She would not wearing panties less she was a freak in which no one would dare to address such accusations.

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11-21-11, 1:05 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:
Aversa said:
Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.
Euh what? No not at all buddy. Sure it was shameful and all but her proved in the face of the old geezer that she is a girl. She would not wearing panties less she was a freak in which no one would dare to address such accusations.
Well yes he proved it but still pulling down ones pants is going to far there should be other ways to prove that she is a girl.
Besides the Pope was aware that her surgery wasn't finest so he should have known she was still a girl.
From what i am able to tell the only thing that's changed about her so far is the fact that she doesn't have any breasts.
Which she seems to be ashamed about.

 
11-21-11, 6:00 PM

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THE DEBATE!!!

"I wish to reclaim the emotions that each country stole from her in the form of the Deadly Sin Armaments"
LOL Masazumi, you kicked ass there. Not only she freed Musashi from being a criminal but she also turned Musashi into a victim instead.

Also lol@ Toori for making his life much easier by using all the questions that were sent to ask him and used them as his weapon to ask Masazumi instead. Now he got his questions answered for him and he didn't have to come up with a question, one stone kills two birds.

Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Aversa said:
Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.
Euh what? No not at all buddy. Sure it was shameful and all but her proved in the face of the old geezer that she is a girl. She would not wearing panties less she was a freak in which no one would dare to address such accusations.
Well yes he proved it but still pulling down ones pants is going to far there should be other ways to prove that she is a girl.
Besides the Pope was aware that her surgery wasn't finest so he should have known she was still a girl.
From what i am able to tell the only thing that's changed about her so far is the fact that she doesn't have any breasts.
Which she seems to be ashamed about.
I think his point was not that. He just wanted to prove that she is a fine girl which was not what the Pope was trying say. The Pope was saying she is neither man or woman, a creepy person and this will make their situation worse by weaken her moral down. His point was trying to make Masazumi regain her confident and stand up and fight again. That said, that action is too much in real life but this is just a show and this is not out of his character to begin with.
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11-21-11, 8:06 PM

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From the utter confusion of the first episodes, we have moved to an almost coherent plot and action. If this keeps up I may have to consider bumping up its rating. What is it about this season and shows that require you to have intimate knowledge of the source LN/VN to understand the action?
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11-21-11, 8:12 PM

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... so my comment get deleted cos im just saying i dont like this anime zzzzzz

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11-21-11, 8:13 PM

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notzky said:
Uhm.. The episode was good and all for me, with the interesting debates and the start of the war, but I'd like to ask this, this series is only 13 episodes right?.. well, assuming that it doesn't have a second season, it's already in episode eight, and Toori still ahsn't showed any signs of fighting yet, can he really fight?


I think they already anounced a second season.
 
11-21-11, 8:18 PM

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Siva said:
THE DEBATE!!!

"I wish to reclaim the emotions that each country stole from her in the form of the Deadly Sin Armaments"
LOL Masazumi, you kicked ass there. Not only she freed Musashi from being a criminal but she also turned Musashi into a victim instead.

Also lol@ Toori for making his life much easier by using all the questions that were sent to ask him and used them as his weapon to ask Masazumi instead. Now he got his questions answered for him and he didn't have to come up with a question, one stone kills two birds.

Aversa said:
Yumekichi11 said:
Aversa said:
Toori needs a beating for pulling down Masazumi's pants a guy should not behave that way.
Euh what? No not at all buddy. Sure it was shameful and all but her proved in the face of the old geezer that she is a girl. She would not wearing panties less she was a freak in which no one would dare to address such accusations.
Well yes he proved it but still pulling down ones pants is going to far there should be other ways to prove that she is a girl.
Besides the Pope was aware that her surgery wasn't finest so he should have known she was still a girl.
From what i am able to tell the only thing that's changed about her so far is the fact that she doesn't have any breasts.
Which she seems to be ashamed about.
I think his point was not that. He just wanted to prove that she is a fine girl which was not what the Pope was trying say. The Pope was saying she is neither man or woman, a creepy person and this will make their situation worse by weaken her moral down. His point was trying to make Masazumi regain her confident and stand up and fight again. That said, that action is too much in real life but this is just a show and this is not out of his character to begin with.
Totally agree on this in that it melded superbly with Toori's personality and there is the +of gentleman that surfaced in him in this episode.

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11-22-11, 1:38 AM

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this 13 ep season will only cover volume 1 for the "light" novel

Season 2 has already been announced/planned I think.

The story is not even finished yet on the light novel, so rest assured that it won't get rushed.
 
11-22-11, 3:25 AM

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I do not know what they were debating about but the last 5 minutes were good.
 
11-22-11, 5:45 AM

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jeroz said:
this 13 ep season will only cover volume 1 for the "light" novel

Season 2 has already been announced/planned I think.

The story is not even finished yet on the light novel, so rest assured that it won't get rushed.
OMG LN is not even finished yet? Sunrise, hold your horse take your time and you better not trying to come up with an original ending or I will sue you for sure. I can wait and watch slow shit but I don't watch crappy shit.

 
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Yeah, this episdode was quite hard to follow. It's way easier to follow a debate in written form rather than watching it in real time.

And Toori, there are far better methods to prove that she's a proper girl. Pulling down her pants isn't one of them.
 
11-22-11, 2:30 PM

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Siva said:
OMG LN is not even finished yet? Sunrise, hold your horse take your time and you better not trying to come up with an original ending or I will sue you for sure. I can wait and watch slow shit but I don't watch crappy shit.


I doubt that. It's more likely that they will remain faithful to the books and leave it open for future adaptations if it turn out to be successful.

They will be doing a disservice to both new watchers and LN fans if they decide to do a JC. They are not that incompetent, I hope.

At the moment it's going according to the pace of the LN, so just sit back and relax, and hopefully the franchise will remain strong so we can see more of it in the future.
 
11-22-11, 4:10 PM

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I think the Pope think that Masazumi is also wearing male's pants as well but she is wearing a girl's pants...
Politician's trustworthiness is very important.Citizen don't like politician that has full of lies in it .The girl's pants prove that she is a fine women. lol
 
11-22-11, 6:27 PM

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I thought it was obvious Masazumi is a girl plus shes wearing that white skirt thing. Masazumi really shined this episode, she's brilliant and really stood her ground against that oldfag Pope. Haha Toori is legit, he does something goddamn awesome every frigging episode. He also protects Masazumi, props to this guy. Toori has got to be one of the best and manliest mc in a lonngg time.

Good to see Futayo make her decision in supporting Musashi. Shit is getting intense now, war is starting and a fight is already in the way. I wonder if Toori's got any abilities to fight with. This has got to be my most anticipated anime every week even in a great season like this.
 
11-22-11, 8:10 PM

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notzky said:
Toori still ahsn't showed any signs of fighting yet, can he really fight?.. well, I like his personality, bein g perverted and funny, he's the main character here, I think he should be fighting the most here.


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Tes toori is not good at fighting he is more of a support character
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11-22-11, 8:24 PM

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All I got out of this was now Musashi is going to fight against Testament Union in order to collect all these Deadly Sins shit to save the world. So what I've gathered from all the episodes so far, Musashi is the Divine State ran by a bunch of kids? Then what the fuck does that make Mikawa? Who controls who? Why the fuck are kids in charge of such an important ship? Were the Armaments created from the original Horizon or from P-01S Horizon? Who created them again? What the fuck is going on? Why are there basketballs attached to the majority of the female characters? What the hell is going on?
 
11-22-11, 10:07 PM

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lol @ everyone that doesnt understand the whats going on
You guys either need to pay more attention to what you watch or you need to stop watching Hadena subs.

Either way this was prob my fav episode of Horizon so far, Toori you unbelievable and glorious BASTARD! Im really starting to get into this series now, its been getting progressively more interesting and with great action and soundtrack...this one looks like a winner.
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11-22-11, 10:35 PM

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The only problem I have with this anime is the fact that you would assume from toori bring the Main Character that he would be either smarter, stronger or more relevant. The truth is he is none of that I would really like to see him get a more interesting role instead of the role of "comic relief" and either be a tactician or just a straight up badass fighter


Sent out the only, albeit unexpected, guy in the group with enough collecting power to face against the giant mecha alone, which i doubt any other students is capable of doing so.
sent out a timid girl to ensure the honorable knight will not disgrace herself in front of the ones she wants to protect. Not to mention the first one to realise Neito's plan to make the situation a lot worse, and pass down the message to stop her from doing so.
use the rules of the debate to make the best suited person in the academy to lay down the ground work for him, instead of him being put on the spot.
solved the gender problem in an elegant way to ensure the argument holds ground

Now if that's not awesome tactician work I have no idea. He knows how to use his people, and is a lot smarter than most people here gave him the credit for. He has the intuition and charisma of a great leader, and that's all you need to command a faction. He won't be the first one to charge into the enemy field as he already has plenty of friends to handle the job better.


Indeed quite correct.. Just because someone plays the fool - doesn't mean they actually are a fool.


notzky said:
Uhm.. The episode was good and all for me, with the interesting debates and the start of the war, but I'd like to ask this, this series is only 13 episodes right?.. well, assuming that it doesn't have a second season, it's already in episode eight, and Toori still ahsn't showed any signs of fighting yet, can he really fight?.. well, I like his personality, bein g perverted and funny, but in all eight episodes, almost all of his parts were for the comedic part only, he's the main character here, I think he should be fighting the most here.

But still, this series is looking good for me. 4/5 for the episode.

And Oh,

Toori: "Hey, is there anybody here who loves DFC?

Here! *Raises Hand*


Sadly 13 isn't nearly enough to cover what the series has just so far in what 6300ish pages? so I certainly hope for more... I mean bad anime originals get 20+ episodes .. finally a horizon adaption and it only gets 13 -_- and has about 10x the detail , character and plot development. not to mention infinite faction-ism and detail overall
 
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