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You know, I actually kind of saw that coming, mostly because I had ruled out Kanba due to having a really deep voice in Masako's flashback, and I had also ruled out Mario due to the boy being noticeably taller than Himari, which wouldn't have been the case if her chosen one was Mario. That left Shouma and his friend (because Ikuhara likes trolling, doesn't he?) as the only possibilities for Himari's fated one.

@Lemonysunshine:

If Shouma turns out to be Momoka resurrected, then wouldn't that mean that Ringo x Shouma is an incestuous pairing?

@Raven_Shinobi:

Utena Spoilers!

Haha yeah Matrix allusion, good one Ikuhara

Other interesting things that happened in this episode:
- So what's the deal with Kanba and his "parents"? What train of fate are they on, that Natsume refuses to join?
- Why does Dr. Pinkhair [forgot his/her/its name] want the diary burned? Is it actually the Penguindrum?
- WHERE IS SURVIVAL STRATEGY!?!?!?!

the red apple remind me of snow white .
I wonder the forbidden fruit apple also got any meaning in it.Since it also symbolize temptation(seduction),immortality, ,knowledge, and sin...
Thing doesn't look well if red apple involve lol

Right when I thought this show was coming together another shocking truth revealed.

FINALLY my favourite character shines!!! I will write more when I'm saner and done crying.

this is no doubt the best anime of the year!

Himari is adopted? DDDD:

ok, so im returning this time to put here some new findings in symbolism.

Everyone already knew that apple meant "youth, immortality, temptation, desire".

Now i went to search for the meaning of sharing an apple and not the apple itself. to anyone who cares to read:

Results:
"In early Greek history, the apple figured in courtship as well as the rites and customs of marriage. For example, a happy couple in the seventh century B.C. might share an Apple as a symbol of their marriage"; (...) "In Norse mythology, Legend says that the goddess Idun guarded the magical golden apples".


hum. Himari is Shouma´s bride. (Am i the one getting crazy to find out Shouma´s identity?! He cant be normal after all. Just like Momoka. plus, survival strategy was never made with him. Geez, does he has penguindrum inside him?

Now i wonder if Shouma forgot all about it too, or he didnt?

An amazing episode that blew me out. I cannot believe all was amazing and so happy in the beginning only to be ruined by Natsume of all people. The only thing I really can say about it is the following,

Along with Shouma x Ringo part in the spoiler of whom Ringo actually teased Shouma but also pouted. :D I like Ringo pouting. Same can be said of the penguin whom they all start cooking nicely here with #3 helping out mainly until that is #2 puts too much oil and it deviates to #1 burning him red again! ROFL! I did not see good times like these since a long while in episodes. The happy reunion in the spoiler Did indeed start well. Himari was smiling! She was interacting with Ringo splendidly and looked so nice besides Ringo. I did not see this in a long time. Glad that Kanba and Shouma liked their gifts. Those sweaters look good on them and the colours too. While the ones the penguin got gave way to good comedy.

Shouma and Ringo look so well as husband and wife in the spoiler while Kanba being happy and relaxing was a nice change considering what he went through. However in thee end something was up with Himari considering that she looks regretful of something upon seeing Shouma with Ringo. Upon a
closer look at her face here I can say ti looks more like depression/sadness perhaps even with regret. It can’t that Himari does want to give Shouma to Ringo?

Well it sure reveals itself in thee end with the following,

That sure confirms that Himari considers Shouma more precious than I though. Moreover it was quite the shock to find out that Himari was a given up child in the spoiler

the broiler is total shit! I hate it! On top of that ti was scarier! They showed the real thing from real life here! That is real footage of the ones they use to slaughter animals. You think farmers do it manually nowadays? No, for it is too cruel and the machine is better.

In regards to Natsume in the spoiler that was one hell for Himari and she almost got shot. I never Himari so scared. Poor her! D: I assume the blue bullet is the opposite of the red. It returns any memory taken away. If so then who changed Himari's memories and why? Who could do it?

Small points

• Kanba upon meeting his parents in the spoiler
  
  
  just gave away eh knew exactly where they were and his smile/blush was nice but why oh why he knew all that? There was totally nothing to even think that he knew. We got trolled big time there. Along with the money man being with his father’s organization. So it’s true that he works for his father or even Natsume’s father.
  
  
• Really loved the gag in the spoiler
  
  
  the “I shine my forehead and I shine mines back at you” was hilarious. Good one between Natsume/Himari.
  
  
• Another interesting thing is to compare both books of the penguins in the spoiler
  
  
  correlate colour meaning and surface characters. There may be some meaning to pull out.

In conclusion I soundly think that Himari is adopted and not sure who saved her yet but to me it has to be Shouma x Ringo. Kanba x Natsume would be a plus! Maybe now Himari running with Shouma away from Kanba may mean leaving him to do his things alone and eventually he will be the one giving them money. Who knows. Who knows why Himari did not even use Survival Strategy like she used on the maid.

I would also like to know what are the glass shards mean despite reading last thread???? I am assuming time stop to save Himari or something to do with time. After all the conveyor belt was still running and she was getting closer to being minced meat. Another is IRL most people in Asia do not want girls so they get rid of them. Especially if they have DNA defect like physical weakness. Too expensive to pay bills if the family is poor.

BTW the end art of the episode in the spoiler

is amazing! Wow! It shows Himari Yin/Yang style! Except the darkness is eating her much more!

Image Stitches in the club:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=366577

I'll still ship ShoumaxRingo regardless of these fated person revelations, because half of the characters in this show hate fate anyway.
xP

It seems you are going for the incest(shouma x Himari)...Well, miracle(penguin drum) may appear from Shouma in the last episode....

I think you may be right. I rewatched episode 13 and then episode 9 and I think that Momoka can be inside the hat(or maybe her soul? is Momoka Princess of the Crystal?). in episode 13, Sanetoshi said to Momoka "Farewell, my love. my love, the only one who can see the same scenery as I. see you again, in that world" so I think that Sanetoshi wants to change the world (and because of that he wants to destroy the diary but he can't do it himself - maybe if someone destroy the diary it will erase all the things that Momoka did and then it changes the worlds/fate. or he will come back to 'that world'. does Sanetoshi wants to be together with Momoka? (whuut, Momoka, you troll, everyone wants you)] if not, why he called her 'my love'??
but he said 'she rejected me. she rejected me, the only person who could see the same scenery'. I don't get it at all. why almost everyone in Mawaru loves/wants Momoka? :I
is Princess of the Crystal related in any way to Momoka? because Sanetoshi once said in episode 13 'she had the same kind of eyes'. Princess has similar eyes to Sanetoshi's. and Momoka has different eyes...
and I totally forgot that scene with Shouma and Himari from episode 9 and it was a really big shock for me when I saw that Shouma is Himari's fated one... I ship Shouma x Ringo with all my heart + Kanba x Himari (I really don't want Kanba to be in pairing with Masako). I'm afraid that Ringo will sacrifice herself for Shouma/Momoka or something like that, Kanba will be with Masako (or maybe he'll kill himself xD? well, it's possible if he can't be with Himari but he wants this) and Shouma will be with Himari. or Sanetoshi will destroy everything. he is a good troll LOL
*sigh* I totally don't get it...I have to rewatch previous episodes to understand what's going on? xD
but I must say that this anime is awesome, totally awesome, even better than Steins;Gate. and Mawaru is trolling me more than S;G. I want to know the truth but at the same time I don't want this anime came to an end...

Child Broiler. Why does this place even exist?

oh, so the parents are still alive and that explains as to how one of the brothers was able to get some money for their expenses.

I am a crazy fan of Kanba x Masako and Shouma x Ringo.
Oh well, I think Kanba x Masako is somehow unhopeful, it's only my wish after all, and Kanba only thinks about Himari but he is always rude to Masako at the same time. Because of that, I think I can be hate him :-<
My last hope is a happy end for Shouma x Ringo, but now, I'm afraid that Himari will ruin everything, so, maybe I hate Himari too.
About the theory which is about Masako and Kanba are siblings, I hate it.
About the theory everyone has to suffer more than now for Himari's sake, I hate it too.
Maybe I am crazy for real.
But, it's a good episode after all and this series is so awesome.

Same to me. I'm too curious to wait for next thursday. But thinking it's only 5eps left, it's somehow so sad at the same time.

yeah, it does bother me a little that now everything is because of Himari, but I still like her. but seriously, if because of the fact that Shouma is Himari's fated person he must be with her - I 'll probably won't like her anymore. I want him to be with Ringo. we know that ringo loves Sholuma, but does Shouma loves Ringo?
at the same time, I hate Momoka. it's all her fault, everyone are crazy about her, wants her, loves her - it's really annoying that everything is because of her and what she did.
at first,I hated Yuri. now I kind of like her. I hated Masako. now I don't dislike her (but don't like her either) - it's because of their pasts. but I can't stop hating Momoka. she's just a little troll girl who wanted to help everyone but in the end she caused more problems.

They're alive... cool. Hahaha, the conversation between Himari and Masako about the present. Masako and Kanba being family doesn't surprise me with the flashback some episodes earlier. Lol, the houghing scene reminded me of the most awkward episode of Star Driver. That Kanba kick. Buu, Shouma x Himari? =.=

Suddenly, Shouma is Himari's soulmate. What a tweest!

Ringo just become irrelevant, well that has been the case since ages ago.

What i can say...? omg...

SAME HERE..I can't believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I WANT SHOUMA X RINGO!!!