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Sad to see Haman go, I think they handled her death well though (unlike most of the others).

So uh, Pure Two just kind of ... died? I wonder if she's still just lying in that chair? Wow...

Either way, I do have to say this was a great ending, it was actually satisfying and didn't feel so sudden/abrupt like some other Gundam's. Congrats to that.

All in all I think I can only give it like a 7/10 though.

Beecha V Elle. I think that was the shortest amount of time between slaps by different people in a MSG episode (yes I'm obsessed with slaps in this franchise)

Interesting twist that the Zeon girl was a double, but kind of pointless to just throw that at us in the last episode. Well, they better elaborate in the next Gundam show after this.

LOL @ Bright getting hit. The dude...cannot catch a break.

Where was Judau going at the end and why didnt his sister want to see him yet? I'm confused.



Yeah, that was a good last speech from her about humanity not getting past the asteroid belt.



LOL. You know I still cant remember wtf happened to the first Puru, she never really got a send-off, I think. Both deaths badly handled.

Puru Two blasted Puru in one of the mech's when she tried to save Judau or something ... but eh, yeah, that one was handled terribly too. I remember Judau being perfectly fine later on in the episode.

Oh and yeah, that Mineva double thing was kind of out of nowhere. A little ridiculous, but I guess it's believable with such a royal based faction and whatnot.

Bright, lol ... I think he deserved that hit after MSG, Zeta, and this, etc, I felt bad for him though. XD

Haman Karn is my favourite character from ZZ Gundam. She's one of the best MS pilots. She's also magnificent and a fiery redhead. I don't like that she died either. But, I agree about how they handled it. It was better than either Puru or Puru Two.

It's been awhile since I saw ZZ Gundam. But, I seem to remember the other characters including Judau not showing any sadness about Puru or Puru Two dying. I mean it was especially sad for Puru. Considering, she was with them for quite awhile.

I'm still laughing over Puru Two being slumped over in that chair...completely ignored. They should cut back to her after the credits have rolled, then have her fall off out of frame, then cut to black.

I thought it was a pretty nice ending, and overall I rate this show 7/10.

The deaths were definitely a weak part of this series. Most of them really were just not done right, which is kinda disappointing.

Well the first half of this series was crap. Too much comedy and stupidity with the likes of Mashima and the shangri-la. Thankfully once they left there the show got into gundam form.

Its sad Haman died, but it was necessary and Glemy, finally the bitch got what was coming to him.

Wow! I really liked the ending, despite what few things about it nagged me. Haman's death was a sad moment for me, she was one of the better, if not best female character in the show. But in the end, it seemed like she was just so tired of fighting and struggling that she just didn't want to do it anymore and killed herself.

When I first started watching this show, I did so just to see if I could find out what happened to Kamille after he brainwiped/mindf*cked/"scirroccoed", but I'm glad I stayed for more than that. The Earth (Africa/Dublin) arc really lifted this above the HORRIBLE CRAP that was the beginning of the series.

This show really earned the name Gundam once it was finished, but I can't forgive it for such a horrible, disrespectful beginning and how badly they handled the deaths. Puru Two didn't fade into nothingness, she died right there are the bridge and was practically ignored! Puru was hardly missed either. Hell in the previous Gundam series they cried if people left the shiP.

6/10 ... I had given this a 2 or 3 in the beginning.

Good ending, not as good as previous ones, but good enough. I don't have a whole lot to say.

True the beginning of the series was slow, silly and almost ridiculous, but it had very funny moments, I lol'd, and the middle arcs in the Earth (specially the Desert arc) were among the best Gundam arcs if you ask me.

I'm still thinking if I'll give it a 7/10 or a 8/10. I think either one is fair, I mean, the earth arc alone was worth a 9/10 for me.

Nice ending.

R.I.P. Chara and Haman, why do the good characters always die.

BTW what the hell happened to Iria Pazom? I believe she didn't die in the battle, the last time I saw her was after Mashymre death

Maybe the viewer should decide whether Puru two died or not. Nonetheless it was a great show, but I'm dissapointed about one specific couple.

haha.. i finally finished the AEUG series of UC.. nice ending i should say.. looks like i got entertained by the show, too, as i laughed at all the loltominos at the early part of this show no matter how much i know that everything is just outright ridiculous and the middle part was just outstanding and Zeta-like.. Haman's death in this ending and her speech is also good.. but they handled other people's deaths so ridiculously especially for both Puru's.. also, this seems to be a bonus if you want to see the happy ending of Kamille and Fa, because damn Kamille got scirrocco'ed in Zeta which made me really hate that ending..

Unicorn connection: because i watched Unicorn ep1 before this, i think i learned some stuff.. the Mineva Zabi in ZZ is a double.. therefore, the real one is hiding somewhere and she'll come back in 8 years as Audrey Burne.. and i bet one of the pilots of those Qubeley Mass Production Types is Marida Cruz aka Ple Twelve..

Nice ending to the series, and the moment between Leina and Judau was sweet at the end.
I was really bothered by the first part of the series, it was like they took the whole Zeta Gundam as a joke and even what happened with Kamille was overlooked. But with the Earth arc the series redeemed itself and really made me exited over every episode. Though there are a lot of things that they haven't really explained and quite a few plot holes, I enjoyed ZZ very much from the beginning till the end.
I'm still thinking about the rating....

Man, you guys really go for melodramatic nonsense, don't you? Not saying that Zeta was bad, but you should lighten up and laugh, because the beginning of ZZ was supposed to be a respite. Sure, call it disrespectful, but it's his own creation, if anything it's self-deprecating humor; he of all people has the right to do that. Even though on a crude 10-point scale it's the same (7/10), I honestly preferred this to Zeta. Zeta fucked up a few deaths too (remember how they just sort of forgot that Kamille's parents were murdered?), so both series failed equally at that regard. Though overblown at times, it also felt more honest overall, and the characters were better developed. Or at least the relationships between characters was better. Anyways, shit was good, I can't wait to see Char's counterattack :)

Ok ending for an anime that was entertaining, yet all over the place. I can't help but thinking that there were too many hands involved in the script and so many changes. In any case the first 20 chapters were very odd although things got a lot better, I cannot help but thinking that the fact that Tomino got green light for Char's Counterattack messed up what should have been the original plan with ZZ.

One thing I did like a lot was Judau leaving for Jupiter. It means that Judau was actually listening to Haman's last words, and will be doing his bit to make sure that humanity can leave the Earth and help preserve it.

What is a bit confusing is that there seems to be implied some sort of relationship between Judau and Roux. I cannot really recall them having any kind of intimacy during the course of the series.

Lastly, I was very happy to see that Kamille is doing fine and seems to be happy with Fa. Those 2 really deserve it.

Despite the mediocre start, I was surprised that ZZ became quite entertaining after the first 18 episodes or so. I found it somewhat disappointing as Haman just commits suicide at the end of this episode, I was expecting her to go out with a bigger bang since her character was such a badass in Zeta. Also the Judau/Roux ending felt somewhat tacked on. Her attraction to him wasn't really implied very well and was only briefly hinted in like 2 episodes, with no real development in their relationship. I find it as one of the weaker series(but not a horrible one), ZZ is miles better than Seed and Wing in terms of enjoyment despite its rocky start.

7/10

What happened to the real Mineva isn't revealed in the next Gundam show (which is Victory), but it is revealed in Gundam Unicorn.

Edit: Also I am baffled that anyone can prefer this show to Zeta. Kamille's parents are not as important of characters are Puru and Puru II were... And at least you could tell they died. I didn't even know that Puru II had died until I read this thread, and it took me a little while to realize Puru had died, too, because their deaths were handled so nonchalantly.

Char's Counterattack is even worse in terms of deaths though.

Nice ending. Felt a little rushed, with too many fights and prominent deaths in quick succession, but that's not so bad. The ending was vaguely cheerful, offering a lot of relationship closure while only mentioning the potential for future conflict.

I thought it was an okay series. Frustrating and annoying at times, but occasional quality made it bearable. I wouldn't mind seeing Judau return in a different show.

I really liked the fact they showed Kamille and Fa at the end. I'm really happy for them =3

During Haman and Judau's fight I shit a brick when images of all the previous dead Newtypes (Lalah, Four and such) It just came out of nowhere!

ZZ so far has been the weakest for me, as most people said above the first half was bollocks. But it gradually got better.. But it still doesn't live up to 0079 and Zeta.

So since the Zeta movies were made, this story has been forced out of canon.. Same with Counterattack as well. And seeing though they're reanimating the original MGS (Origins manga rather) It looks like they might be rewriting the UC timeline..

I'd like to see that happen.. Especially when I was expecting to see Sayla in Counterattack.. Maybe this time around she'll have more involvement in the post Zeta stories.

7/10 anyway. I really liked the ending =)

So in the end it's Judau x Roux? It's a sad for a guy to lose his harem...

I see they opted for the "happy ending" rather than Zeta's depressing one. I was quite skeptical when I first started this series, but in the end it was much better than I had expected; it definitely isn't a terrible series.

Definitely don't overlook ZZ Gundam, especially if you're going to watch all of the UC Universe!

8/10