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Jul 31, 2008 11:37 PM
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Sad episode ;__;
Oct 22, 2008 2:12 PM
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I doubt Renton would like to hear more about Eureka, actually.
Her past isn't what we would call pleasant.
Nov 17, 2008 4:52 PM
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^^ agreed.

Sad episode :| in a way its one of the best though
Nov 29, 2008 12:51 PM
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sad to see charles and ray go. they didn't seem bad at heart. that whole incident isn't going to help renton with his wondering whether he's actually helping or hurting people though.
Jun 18, 2009 1:50 AM
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Brutal ep. At least Ray went out with a bang though it is sad that she died hating Eureka.


Jul 1, 2009 8:15 PM
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Holy shit. There go my two favorite characters, Ray and Charles... and they only just showed up, too. I won't lie, I shed a tear or two, but I'm a woman.

I love how this series shows people reacting to and being corrupted by trauma. This episode was both great and terrible.
Jul 15, 2009 12:12 PM
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Another sad episode, two great characters are gone now (and still nobody tells Renton anything).
Sep 5, 2009 5:11 PM
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The truth awaits Renton next episode...
Screw being late here, I'm not going to miss that!
Sep 10, 2009 9:26 PM
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I liked the look on Eureka's face when Renton said he wanted to know more about her past.

Jan 1, 2010 5:46 PM
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I liked the part, when Ray crawled to her hand...
Apr 28, 2010 10:15 AM

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Damn I'll really miss Charles and ray
and yeah the truth in the next episode....
Jul 3, 2010 3:23 AM

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Brutal death for Ray...to crawl towards your own arm...
Oct 5, 2010 8:45 PM
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OOOOMGGGGGGGG he is still fcking alive sooooooo close and then they ruined my favorite characters wtf.
Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM
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OOOOMGGGGGGGG he is still fcking alive sooooooo close and then they ruined my favorite characters wtf.
Oct 5, 2010 8:46 PM
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OOOOMGGGGGGGG he is still fcking alive sooooooo close and then they ruined my favorite characters wtf.
Nov 11, 2010 1:39 PM

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Is it me or does Ray look like Snake in his stealth gear?
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Dec 5, 2010 2:07 AM

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Is it me or does Ray look like Snake in his stealth gear?

Lol everytime I saw Charles, I kept thinking that about him in the gear. xD

But now Ray is gone, and for Holland to stay alive he needs Renton's blood. I wonder if he'll thank him.


Dec 14, 2010 7:41 PM

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Interesting changes to the dynamic of the main cast--Renton, once viewed as the butt monkey, is now the MVP in more ways than one.

That said, as other people have noted, this is a very sad episode. The show did very well in portraying Ray sympathetically. I couldn't help but tear up when I saw how she still had those three sets of plates and silverware, and even set Renton's mug out on the table. They could just have made Charles and Ray these evil rivals of Holland, except they gave them backstories, motives, and very strong story relevance--especially for the whole theme of Renton's coming-of-age.
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Dec 16, 2010 8:25 AM

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:( I wish Renton could've given charles' ring back to Ray. that would have made for some touching moments. it's really too bad ray had to die like that though, although she was definitely prepared for it.

but they need to get on with renton sister. Talho mentions her like every episode xD
Feb 1, 2011 4:17 PM

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The kids crying mommy mommy all the time are really just annoying.
Such junk...
Jun 6, 2011 5:28 AM

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RyanMortos said:
The kids crying mommy mommy all the time are really just annoying.
hahahah sooo trueee hate it whenever they cry and call out moommyy..
Jun 6, 2011 5:30 AM

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It was reallllly sad how they showed inside Ray's ship it was all a mess except for the table which was made for 3 charles/ray and renton :(..
She died awfully :(..
Jun 6, 2011 10:32 AM

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the end for both Charles and Ray is surprisingly well done, i still cant think of them as the bad guys

the series had gone more brutal since Renton first saw the remains of the dead pilot he killed
Aug 1, 2011 9:23 AM

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Holland 2 - 0 Beams (Final Score)!!!

Well Holland is no joke in combat, but it sucks that Ray had to die I liked her. She was sweet and caring to Renton, learning from her background of not being able to bear children it made me sympathize for her. I was a little shocked that Ray went psychaotic at the end with the living quarters all destroyed, repeating Charles song on the radio, and wanting revenge on Eureka. Didn't care too much for Charles though, he was a nice guy and all but came off as a cocky basterd thinking he was just gonna run right over Holland & co.

Aug 23, 2011 4:51 AM
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I can't believe Ray and Charles got killed off so early. It's quite sad actually.

And it seems that finally there will be some kind of explanation of what's going on. Finally. I get the feeling that Eureka has a nasty Rei Ayanami kind of backstory.

Wonder how Renton's sister backstory fits in all of this.
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Sep 10, 2011 7:51 PM

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Entire time I couldn't believe how awesome the music was. Also Charles x Ray best couple ever in anime. Not gonna lie.
Sep 21, 2011 10:04 PM

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Damn.. I really liked Ray. Even though she sort of went nuts at the end.
Jan 24, 2012 8:56 AM
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Holland is so badass in this episode.
Ray totally went nuts, but man, her hubby got killed and a kid she treated like her own choose a "monster" who "stole her future" over her. derp
Also fff I love how much Eureka has changed.
Feb 10, 2012 12:05 PM
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Raaaaaay :(
Apr 7, 2012 5:24 AM

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Wow, she snapped harder than I expected.
May 1, 2012 8:53 PM
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At least there is some justifiable emoness going on.
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Jun 1, 2012 11:12 AM

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What a fitting ending to Ray and Charles, glad Holland is finally turning out to be a decent guy, he's just very hormonal.
Jul 28, 2012 2:38 PM

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Eureka is like "I want to know everything about you Renton" then shivers when he says the same. Selfish.

I'm liking Renton more and more however. But it is really time to start telling us more about his sister.
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Jul 29, 2012 11:55 AM
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Charles has some taste in music
Nov 21, 2012 4:51 PM

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That humming at the first few minutes creeped me out especially when we see shots of where Ray wrecked hers and Charles ship.

Still sad she had to die I liked her, but I seen it coming.

Also death flag for Holland "If anything ever happens to me take care of Eureka in my place" T^T
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Nov 24, 2012 10:20 PM

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RyanMortos said:
The kids crying mommy mommy all the time are really just annoying.

VERY
They didn't need to kill Ray off like I wanted one of them to survive at least. Those two were the best.
Ray is still the hottest of the series.
I just feel Renton never showed them love in the way they showed him...he's selfish to
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Mar 6, 2013 11:41 PM

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Great episode as well.
Mar 23, 2013 11:39 PM
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The last two episodes were some of the best in the series so far. Sucks that Ray died but it was a fitting end in a way.

Pretty bonehead move for Renton to want to know about Eureka's past considering he knew about her military life.
Apr 5, 2013 5:12 PM
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Sad episode! Looks like I'll never see Ray and Charles again. Although on the bright side, my suspicions of Holland and Talho as a couple are confirmed. :)
Apr 10, 2013 2:53 PM
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Eureka is like "I want to know everything about you Renton" then shivers when he says the same. Selfish.

You think that's selfish? It could be seen as considerate actually. Some things are just better left unknown and it seems the 'truth' about Eureka is one of those things.
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Sad episode! Looks like I'll never see Ray and Charles again. Although on the bright side, my suspicions of Holland and Talho as a couple are confirmed. :)

Are you kidding me? It's been confirmed a million times already lol. Wake up dude! Wake up!

It's a damn shame they couldn't let poor Ray die with her mind at ease by letting her reach her wedding ring...
Apr 22, 2013 8:04 AM

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coolep, sad. poor ray. why the hell did talho bie her lip and then kiss holand? good fluid action
but damn poor ray and charles, they were more sinister than it initially appeared.
more so ray it seems haha.
Jul 23, 2013 4:46 PM
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Vampyda said:
RyanMortos said:
The kids crying mommy mommy all the time are really just annoying.
hahahah sooo trueee hate it whenever they cry and call out moommyy..

They seriously need to stop =_= Especially the younger two. I'm more or less okay with Maurice because he's less annoying.
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It was reallllly sad how they showed inside Ray's ship it was all a mess except for the table which was made for 3 charles/ray and renton :(..
She died awfully :(..

That and how she crawled towards her own arm just for the ring ;_; too much.
Sep 7, 2013 12:20 AM

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These last two episodes were depressing, but some of the best...

I am really digging the characters in this series, probably the strongest point of Eureka Seven IMO. They are not depicted black or white, nor completely good or evil.
Powerful eyebrows.
Feb 8, 2014 11:10 AM

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I cant believe that Ray died now too. Very sad episode.
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Feb 18, 2014 6:15 PM
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Tragic episode
Jun 22, 2014 11:09 PM

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Well sadly we knew it would come to a battle between the two groups, and I knew Gekko would survive, so it'd either be an escape for Ray and Charles, or, as it turned out, a fight to the death.

btw I have no clue what that kiss with the blood was about, or what Renton means about never being told the truth (I guess I will find out).

Jul 19, 2014 6:45 AM

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My favorite characters are gone for good now. Screw all this !!
This is too depressing.. and yeah I hate how they keep all the secrets from Renton.
He's just like a dummy MC.. looking forward to seeing Eureka's past.
Jul 21, 2014 6:27 AM

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Now it's Ray?! Damn it T____T
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Aug 19, 2014 2:56 PM

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Poor Ray :/ I really filth sorry for those two being killed :( But well it had to be them or Holland and the rest of the crew... that said Eureka sure is cute being shy but well I do wonder what will happen next!
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Great episode, I will miss Ray. Really loving the new Op and ending!
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