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Jul 31, 2008 11:14 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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New OP rules! But unsure about the new ED.
I'm kind of glad that Ray escaped but I didn't want either to die in the first place.
Oct 22, 2008 1:45 PM
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Papa:(.
the bomb was so obvious. It was a fitting ending for him. Using his last breath to shoot and his body to save Ray.
Nov 17, 2008 4:30 PM
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Awesome.
Dec 20, 2008 11:13 PM
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i'm a big fan of charles and i felt sad to see him go.
Feb 5, 2009 12:46 PM
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Sad to see Charles die...he was such a cool stepdad...
Kind of happy Ray survived, although it was painful to see Renton hold a gun up to her.


Feb 19, 2009 1:49 PM
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Charles :'(
Jun 17, 2009 1:36 AM
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God, timestamps are so lame!
Oh well...awesome ep, suprised that Charles died but at least Ray was saved. Kinda confusing though, why did Ray and Charles board the Gekko-Go? What were they trying to accomplish. I guess I'm going to need to rewatch.


Jun 17, 2009 6:19 AM
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Um... ColdBeans, I think the reason is that they joined the military force. The military ordered them to kill... capture... whichever, the guys in Gekko-Go. And... the reason they joined is because, well, Charles and Ray wanted to mee their old friend Hollan.

By the way, sad to see Charles died. I had that coming though, I couldn't help myself but go to wiki and search for everything. However, even on the moment he died, I was still shocked...
Sep 5, 2009 4:48 PM
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... I'm so sad for Ray and Charles now...
Poor Ray, I hope she was at least pregnant since she wanted to be a mother so much...

The new OP sucks though, but at least the new ending seems cool ^^
Dec 5, 2010 1:31 AM

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Wow that was crazy.I was going to say Holland is pretty smart when it comes to battle, but since he knew what Ray & Charles were going to do because he knows them personally., lol idk.
Poor charles is gone, and now Ray has escaped. This is getting even more interesting.
Plus, I love the new ending theme song.


Dec 11, 2010 2:33 PM

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What I don't understand is why the ending theme has contrasted scenes of Talho and Anemone. I thought Anemone was Eureka's antagonist counterpart, not Talho's...

Well, I guess the Gekko has been damaged again. I wonder when they'll get around to fixing it this time. First time sure took a while.
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May 3, 2011 10:06 PM

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....Thought I was the only one that likes the OP. XD
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Jun 6, 2011 5:25 AM

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Loved the fight between Charles and Holland.. it was really nice and pro.. but really sad how Ray activated the bomb in Charles body :(.. wanted them both to live on through the show and one day Renton would hv called them Papa and Mama..
Sep 21, 2011 9:21 PM

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Well, I'm glad that Ray got out at least even though I didn't want Charles to die because he was a bro.. I already had a feel that he was going to die in this ep.
Oct 19, 2011 10:48 PM

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R.I.P. Charles Beam.
Apologies, I just can't avoid to rant.
Jan 24, 2012 7:47 AM
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I love this OP, I think it's my favourite, though the last one is epic too... The ED is nice, too.
This episode gave off the "serious bussines starts here" feeling. The military starts to leak the false informations about Coralians and Vodarac to prepare for appearance of a new charismatic leader everyone on Gekko is talking about.
Charles ;-; well, someone had to die if another one wanted to survive. I like how both Gekko and Charles and Ray were shown as positive characters so you wasn't sure who you should cheer on. Every character in this series has their bad and good sides, no one is black or white, that's really good.
I'd love to see a spin-off about Holland, Charles, Dewey and all others in the military.
Apr 7, 2012 3:29 AM

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It was obvious that would happen to his corpse, but it was still pretty brutal. Charles ;_;
Apr 9, 2012 5:04 PM
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He died how he lived. with a smile on his face, still really sad though. Wished they could have been Renton's parents
May 31, 2012 9:54 PM

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New music :D

I kind of figured he would blow up, I think that's what they swallowed ahead of time.. Just curious on how she detonated it.

This episode was great with all the action.
Jun 6, 2012 5:34 PM

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It saddens to see that likely "bad" guys die, and so many stupid and boring villains live so long, maybe even survive the ending, in so many anime.
Jul 28, 2012 2:02 PM

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Wow, great ep. Sad to see Charles die but Holland really is a badass in battle!
"We're nothing more than fools and whores with sad highs"
Jul 29, 2012 11:31 AM
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charles-san!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 21, 2012 3:26 PM

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NOOOO CHARLES! I loved him T^T
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD"
Nov 24, 2012 9:51 PM

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Pandaman0529 said:
Sad to see Charles die...he was such a cool stepdad...
Kind of happy Ray survived, although it was painful to see Renton hold a gun up to her.[/quote

Ya Ray and Charles were cool and yeah I was upset when he pointed that gun at her she loved him so much probably still does
Mar 3, 2013 4:54 AM
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*sigh* It's not like I wanted Charles to die but hey.... he had to go :(
I wonder what Ray might do!
Mar 6, 2013 11:14 PM

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The animation in the opening is so good.
Great episode too.
Mar 23, 2013 10:41 PM
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Had a feeling Ray and Charles would bite it together but I feel like she'll get offed in the next episode. Sucks that Charles died he was kinda cool. Love their theme song as well. Holland going full-on commando, literally and metaphorically was neat. Liked the animation for their fight in the hangar and Nirvash's spaz out.

Not feeling the new OP at all though
Apr 10, 2013 2:17 PM
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DAMNIT! I knew it was going to happen yet it still sucks huge balls to actually see it happen. Shame we get no more Charles, but luckily we still got Ray. I do kind of expect that Ray will be kind of less 'cool' without Charles. After all the chemistry the two had was a big part of their awesomeness.
Apr 20, 2013 5:53 AM

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what...the...fuck. he died fast.poor guy. lol look at holland all painted and shit. i thought charles mighta had like a strong bulletproof vest or something. im surprised renton was so calm about. i for sure was expecting him to trip balls. and ray had a little evil side to her. it was decently bloody too, esp, after they showed where he bkew uo, lol just a giant blood splatter. i thought ray woulda got herself killed with him.
Jul 9, 2013 9:32 PM

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Holland should have died in place of Charles.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Jul 14, 2013 4:36 PM

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Ray = Aisha, Charles = Andrew Waltfeld...total foil off of Gundam Seed


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Jul 23, 2013 11:49 AM

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I am finding this arc eerily similar to that of Ramba Ral and Crowley Hamon in the original 1979 Mobile Suit Gundam.

- Amuro Abandons White Base/Renton abandons the Gekko
- Amuro meets with friendly Zeon troops who don't know his identity/Renton befriends Charles and Ray who don't know his identity
- Amuro returns to White Base/Renton returns to Gekko
- Ramba Ral killed in raid on White Base/Charles killed in raid on Gekko
- Both explode

All we need now is for Ray to killed off in an act of vengeance next episode and you have pretty much a mirror image of 0079.
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That was a sad episode :( I actually really likes Charles and Ray. I mean yeah Ray is still alive, but poor Charles. And also how Ray really loves Renton. Holland was cool though with his paint, I like how he was able to predict a lot of their moves. One of the few episodes that I have really enjoyed so far.
Venom900 said:
Ray = Aisha, Charles = Andrew Waltfeld...total foil off of Gundam Seed

Oh I didn't think about it that far, but Charles definitely reminded me of Andrew Waltfield.
Aug 3, 2013 2:42 AM

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I don't like the new op :< (And chaaaaarles ç_ç )
Dec 13, 2013 6:14 PM

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I had a feeling Charles was going to die, still pretty sad though. :/ I actually didn't suspect that Ray had planted a bomb on him lol.
I think the new op is fine, better than the first one anyway.
Feb 8, 2014 10:44 AM

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How are Renton, Charles and Ray supposed to live together now?

Very sad episode...
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Jul 19, 2014 6:03 AM

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Shit.. my happy family gone for good.
The bomb was god damn... I have a feeling Ray is next.. oh why ??
Jul 21, 2014 6:03 AM

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Noooo! Charles!!! :( I hope Ray doesn't go all bat-shit insane the next time she meets Renton. Couldn't care less if she kills Holland. I actually wish it was Holland who died >__<
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Aug 19, 2014 2:39 PM

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Damn what an episode! Quite sad actually that Charles was killed in some way, and I really still wonder what's up with Ray and Eureka or the backstory in general with her! Either way let's see what's next.

The new OP and ED sure are nice!
Dec 10, 2014 11:15 AM

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Noooooooo, not Charles, he was so cool... :(
Rest in peace, Charles, you were cool 'til the end, exploding like a magnificent bastard.

Ray said that's how a SOF member atone his sins. I feel a strong foreshadowing for Holland.

Again, a lot of hate from the characters toward Eureka. In fact, it's again from a woman. She said that she would never reconize her has a mother. Is this because of what she did, slaughtering the civilians? In the flashback, she looked extremely cold, not reacting at all to those she were killing. Maybe, she was never showing any emotion after a fight and that annoyed the other party member...

That was a really tense episode to start a new arc. I'm really curious to where this will lead.
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Jan 5, 2015 12:50 AM
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I really wish Charles would've gone 'til the end of the series or something. I feel like Eureka was genetically modified or something, and that's why all these military personnel (aside from Holland) either hate her, or want to capture her. It was definitely one of the more action packed episodes, and in such close quarters too! I enjoyed it.
I also really enjoy the opening, much more than the ending, which is odd to me why people dislike the op and like the ending.
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Poor Charles. Great episode and I love the new Op and ending!
Jun 30, 2015 3:35 PM
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I've seen people saying Eureka 7 is a rip-off of Evangelion, then of Macross Frontier, then of Gundam. I think that the simple truth is that there are some tropes in the mecha genre that you'll find more than once sooner or later. The important part is how they are used, and I think this anime does a pretty good job at it.
Jan 26, 2017 3:08 AM
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Still not sure if Gekko State are the "good guys".
Jan 26, 2017 12:14 PM

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Eureka Seven isn't really a rip-off of something it's it's own thing...
Jun 28, 2017 4:59 AM

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Holy crap am I watching the same show?
Sep 24, 2017 9:20 PM

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Props to Holland he actually managed to protect everyone during the attack, first good thing he's done in weeks.
Oct 16, 2017 2:10 PM

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I'm surprised they locked up Renton and Eureka with the kids, unless it was just to keep them safe.

I can't believe how much action there was, this was an intense episode, one of the best. I've started to like it more since Charles and Ray have been in it, not just because they are great characters but the story seems to have progressed more swiftly I think. The episodes have been more enjoyable, to me at least.

Charles vs Holland and Nirvash trying to help too was unexpected! and crazy.

Holland went all Predator!

But seriously, taking out Charles was so sad! I really liked him and Renton will be/is devastated! so is Ray!

And blowing him up to escape, that was a smart move by Ray but sad. Putting a bomb in your husband, damn.
Jul 22, 2019 6:52 PM

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Noooooo WTF are the OP and ED's songs? I hate them, especially considering that all the other songs were absolute bangers. But the OP's visuals are very nice, I really like the scene when Anemone gets shocked by seeing Renton protecting Eureka. But unfortunately, RIP Charles. And ngl, really liked Holland's camo, reminded me of Metal Gear Solid 3.
Dec 12, 2019 2:28 PM

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Took me till this episode to realize that Ray probably can't bear a child, feels bad. Not that it would matter anymore with Charles gone ;_; aaah this sucks.

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