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| Finally Masako had some development. And it seems her background is quite similar to Seto Kaiba; She even has a company like him, rofl. Now it seems that Kanba could be her real brother. Masako's father also looked like Kanba and incest for Ikuhara is something usual. |
Orulyon said: Oh, I really like this kind of explanation!!! Perhaps, Kamba's mother is still Takakura Chiemi, but his father is Masako's dad! So it could very be the case that Masako and Kamba have the same father but different moms? Now don't tell me that the reason why Mario and Himari look alike is because their mother is also Takakura Chiemi - that would be gross xDdid anyone noticed that Masako´s dad hair looks exactly like Kanba´s hair? Too much coincidence. Besides, how would Kanba meet Masako as kids? Yumekichi11 said: nah.. I really doubt it.. I'm pretty sure that the person here and the person there. is the same person from two different angles. This is Takakura's dad.Episode 13: Another interesting is that the parents may be framed here. The proof is quite simple from episode 12. Look at the person here and the person he is looking at here. Now it’s obvious they look the same right? So the one who was not framed was most likely the other one looking like Himari’s father but the other one may be the doctor itself. Yumekichi11 said: I don't think I follow how Oginome's father can be a twin to Takakura's father.I am just going to blurt out the “Twins Theory” I think that Himari’s father and Ringo’s father were twins. Both worked for the same group of penguin and perhaps not in the same division but same company. One day they had to do a job that is nasty in thee end one had to take the blame while the other was most likely so not ready for his own daughter to have died of the result of his job. Yumekichi11 said: pwwweeeeease, don't spoil other shows here ^^ I only plan to watch S;G. But no matter the case, I think that after episode 15 pretty much everyone understands the diary is the tool to change/alternate the world with the price to pay for it. I mean, that's exactly what Momoka told herself in that episode. And the first guesses that we're dealing with different variations of the world came as early as the difference in Takakura's mother's name were noticed on Takakura's postbox. Was it ep.5 or 6? Don't remember now. My question would be... just how many times have the fate been already altered? We know for sure Momoka used it successfully. Perhaps, Tabuki could have been involved (the scars on his fingers as a price for altering something relatively small). Now this episode gave me a feeling that Natsume family's fate is also screwed up - grandfather possessing Mario, Masako's dreams (which could actually all be realities, fixed to resurrect Masako's dad).Perhaps Momoka may be just swallowed up in it. You don't think she disappeared just like that in the hospital after being quite alive last we saw of her but still to make a human finish with an object and have it replaced is insane. You all don't realize that the diary may be a sort of Steins Gate able to totally transfer from Beta to Alpha worlds with a price to pay. Still makes no differences since Steins Gate also offered the prices payment for meddling with time. YayPepsi said: unfortuantely nope... or at least I haven't found the official source myself yet..How old are Natsume and Mario supposed to be? I'm assuming that current day Mario is supposed to be 8, if the flashbacks are anything to go by. (It looked like Natsume was about 10 in her flashback, and Mario was in the 2-4 age range...it's hard to tell in anime.) So if Natsume is roughly the same age as Kanba and Shouma, Mario would be about 8-10. Is there a site that has their official ages? metamorphius said: YayPepsi said: woah, the circled arrows arounf the elephant on the pics from the first link... it kinda made me think about the Mawaru's pink circles consisting of two "arrows". And I think we've already met elephants in the show earlier - back in episode 11What is Grandpa reading about? From what I can see the article's about plans to make paper from elephant dung (yes, it exists http://jp.japancorp.net/article.asp?Art_ID=19462, http://www.edgyjapan.jp/2010/12/20101224-1.html) YayPepsi said: actually.. you just made me realize that Masako, by spying over Himari, is trying to figure out about princess of the crystal, who, she believes, is the new Kamba's girlfriend, right? Because the very next sentence she says after "continue spying on Kanba and his sister." is "By the way, who's his new girlfriend?" Or does it mean, that Kamba, despite being so obsessed with Himari/PoC continues flirting with other girls? OH my.. what a womaniser...But she does recognize Himari is Kanba's sister. In the beginning, when she tells the maid to spy on them, she tells Kanba "continue spying on Kanba and his sister." |
Yumekichi11 said: Another interesting is that the parents may be framed here. The proof is quite simple from episode 12. Look at the person here and the person he is looking at here. Now it’s obvious they look the same right? So the one who was not framed was most likely the other one looking like Himari’s father but the other one may be the doctor itself. I am just going to blurt out the “Twins Theory” I think that Himari’s father and Ringo’s father were twins. Both worked for the same group of penguin and perhaps not in the same division but same company. One day they had to do a job that is nasty in thee end one had to take the blame while the other was most likely so not ready for his own daughter to have died of the result of his job. Some ideas pooping around. Let's see what anyone else makes of this. I am sure I am right with the twins theory. Interesting theory. Could be true. I thought maybe those two men were Kanba and Shouma's fathers, making them cousins instead of brothers. But the twin theory seems plausible too. Also, with Masako's father looking like Kanba - I'm guessing they're somehow related? So here's a possibility: -Shouma and Himari's father and Ringo's father are twins -Masako's father - could also be Kanba's father? -Kanba was taken in by Takakura family -Since Masako and Kanba have different last names - maybe Masako's father and Shoma and Hikari's mother are siblings? (The woman in the first pic has similar eyes to Masako - slightly different colour, but the shape is pretty much the same). So many questions. When will we get answers? |
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soulelle said: Look at the scene again, one is standing from another. It can't be a different angle at all. They also look they are communicating to each other. Yumekichi11 said: nah.. I really doubt it.. I'm pretty sure that the person here and the person there. is the same person from two different angles. This is Takakura's dad.Episode 13: Another interesting is that the parents may be framed here. The proof is quite simple from episode 12. Look at the person here and the person he is looking at here. Now it’s obvious they look the same right? So the one who was not framed was most likely the other one looking like Himari’s father but the other one may be the doctor itself. Kanba also has similar hair to Ringo but also to Natsume so he might come from either family if the adoption theorem holds true to that. |
daniellkun said: SECOND BEST SURVIVAL STRATEGY EVER. This. really. That random english speaking kissass in the background made laugh me quite a bit. LOL "OH KNOW MR. PRESIDENT, WATCH OUT!!!" yep dialogue...near perfection in my book. I was gonna keep this show as nine....now...might as well step it up to an ten. Because this definitely show deserves that ten. God I love this show. d(^o^)b |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jtxOJbzDI8&feature=feedu NO MISTER PRESIDENT, IT'S DANGEROUS |
| I don't get how Mario was possessed but i guess it makes sense if i just accept that??? Hu. NOOOO MR. PRESIDENT! |
| i lol'd so hard when young kanba opened his mouth and he sounded exactly the same as he does now LMAO. so ~mature~ and ~manly~ even when he was still a kid, that kanba |
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| I wasn't expecting someone like her to have such a lul type of past i really thought with all the laughs i was having something bad was about to happen but that wasn't the case lol!,Greatest grandfather ever you just can't crush that guy even in death. hope they do more episodes like this And Dat englrish :3. |
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| mr president!!!!!!!!!!!!! this episode was epic. enuf said |
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| Himari's silent Seizon Senryaku was definitely my highlight. And I LOLed at young Kanba's deep voice. =)) There's a lack of Ringo and Shouma in this episode. Sad face. |
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| WHY is himari sometimes referenced as princess of crystal. i haven't seen this name in the show. what is it??????? |
| So when the letter from her father said he hoped that all four of them could be together again, who was the fourth? No mother is mentioned. Is it possible that the fourth is Kanba? |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
rodac said: So when the letter from her father said he hoped that all four of them could be together again, who was the fourth? No mother is mentioned. Is it possible that the fourth is Kanba? I assumed he meant Masako's grandfather. And since Masako said she won't go down this path, seems to suggest that both her and her brother and possibly by extension, her maid as well, will be killed off. Best part was random maid fanservice haha. I guess this is the comic relief episode so I expect shit to go down in the following episodes. |
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| Why does Natsume's father have the exactly same hair color as Kanba? And, if we ignore the sheet-on-the-face part, otherwise looks like an adult Kanba...? |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| maybe kanba has been borrowing money from the nastume company |
| finally we have the seizon senryoku back,YAY!!!natsume's past was taken more comically as compared to yuri's past,the only thing they have in common that they both love their daddys'. |
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FroZen109 said: beats me, I never heard or saw it in the show either.. but since everyone somehow seem to understand that Princess of Crystal means Himari being possessed by the Hat (during the Seizon Senryaku's), I use this term too.. especially because it's easily shortened to just PoC :)WHY is himari sometimes referenced as princess of crystal. i haven't seen this name in the show. what is it??????? GaZsTiC said: Oh, by the way, I don't know if anybody else noticed, but there IS a major turning point in the show starting in the middle of this episode and taking its full effect in the next one:Just when I thought I had an idea of where the show was heading, they threw another curveball. Very interested to see what the final 8 episodes do now that the train is on it's final stretch. FroZen109 said: I believe Kamba was borrowing from Kiga group (the group originally called Pingforce but renamed to KIGA after the year '95 accident). I also believe Masako's father was also a member of this group. It is unclear whether Masako's dad used Natsume clan's money for the KIGA group.. perhaps he tried but Natsume's granddad figured it out and that's how Masako's dad got kicked out of the house and separated with his children. This theory is proved by the events in that last dream of Masako in this episode: she sees her father in another car, surrounded by and being involved with those same people in black and KIGA lables on their clothes. And the moment later Masako sees Kamba's there as well.maybe kanba has been borrowing money from the nastume company |
maybe it represents the possible changes of fate? |
tellosOct 29, 2011 6:48 AM
| *Looks in one direction *slowly turns head *hold up paper saying "Survival Strategy" in Japanese *World goes insane |
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soulelle said: metamorphius said: YayPepsi said: What is Grandpa reading about? From what I can see the article's about plans to make paper from elephant dung (yes, it exists http://jp.japancorp.net/article.asp?Art_ID=19462, http://www.edgyjapan.jp/2010/12/20101224-1.html) woah, the circled arrows arounf the elephant on the pics from the first link... it kinda made me think about the Mawaru's pink circles consisting of two "arrows". And I think we've already met elephants in the show earlier - back in episode 11 Good call on the elephants that appeared in ep 11 (again related to Natsume), I had been completely forgotten about that. I thought of that circle arrows too when I saw the logo. The article was too neatly written and easy to read to be just random. Related to eco-terrorism perhaps (yeah, random nonsense I just came up with xD)? FroZen109 said: WHY is himari sometimes referenced as princess of crystal. i haven't seen this name in the show. what is it??????? It's not really Himari that's referred to as PoC, it's her possessed form. And even though that name hasn't been mentioned in the show itself, it's official, as we can see in an official character map that's been around from the beginning of the anime. soulelle said: Oh, by the way, I don't know if anybody else noticed, but there IS a major turning point in the show starting in the middle of this episode and taking its full effect in the next one: Yeah, I've noticed that too, and it was expected if we follow this invazn said: rodac said: So when the letter from her father said he hoped that all four of them could be together again, who was the fourth? No mother is mentioned. Is it possible that the fourth is Kanba? I assumed he meant Masako's grandfather. I somehow didn't get the impression it was the grandpa he was talking about. There is animosity between two of them (well, at least from granpa's side), so I'm suspecting it's someone else. The most obvious guess would be Masako's mom, but that'd be too obvious plus she hasn't been mentioned so far at all so... |
metamorphiusOct 29, 2011 8:50 AM
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| The screaming English dude made this episode for me. |
| loved this episode!! it was FABULOUS MAX!!! too much funny parts!!! And the new ED was EPIC!!! XD |
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| All this talk of putting the world back on track makes me wonder if Sanetoshi is trying to reverse the changes Mamoka brought upon the world. Or finish what was started before she changed things. |
| OH NO,MR.PRESIDENT, WATCH OUT! LOL And now, shit will turn real once again. |
soulelle said: Oh, by the way, I don't know if anybody else noticed, but there IS a major turning point in the show starting in the middle of this episode and taking its full effect in the next one: And the storyboard for ep.17 is done by Ikuhara himself... so it must be something mind-blowing. I wonder if those grey branches have an extra meaning... I noticed that curve in the line too. I wonder if those gray lines are possible routes of fate. For example, Masako said the she won't get on that train, so the gray path originating from the ep 16 node would be the path that Sanetoshi wanted Masako to take; but since she's not taking it, we're riding the red line instead. Now I wonder what Sanetoshi is up to. I thought he was just an observer; he made a bet with Momoka to see if fate really exists, by watching these people race to get the Penguindrum. But now it seems that he's a more active participant in this. Was Mario being possessed by his grandfather a dream? Or was he really possessed somehow? (like by the sword that the grandfather used?) The eating blowfish scene made me laugh, with how fast and how much they ate in one go XD |
sexiji said: All this talk of putting the world back on track makes me wonder if Sanetoshi is trying to reverse the changes Mamoka brought upon the world. Or finish what was started before she changed things. Very interesting... I know he's trying to test "fate," but this would be really interesting as well. I wanna know more about what Kanba and Masako's Dad got into.. the organization. This show is so fabulous max. ps. The silent 'survival strategy' had me dying....lol |
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That's one hot maid, damn no panty shot. So, it seems that after Misako ate a bunch of poorly prepared Fugo, she was revived by the same scum doctor of Himari, so what would the doctor have her do? |
| just when I thought it couldn't get any weirder. you know her dreams were rather amusing though....... |
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| favorite part: When Himari turns toward the window and holds up a paper that says survival stradegy! XDDDDD |
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| Survival Strategy is love. I really hope there'll be more of that to come. |
Paiguy said: MR. PRESIDENT WATCH OOUUT I CRY. This episode was just a giant mindfuck, and I loved it. I was utterly confused upon what was real and what was a dream and the whole time I was laughing my ass off at the random American character and the, I like my woman like I like my... bits~ sillyriri said: So this is a show about stalker girls with daddy issues? xP BUT IT'S TRUE!!! Also, NEEDS MORE MARIO!!! |
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| Another great episode. Character development level over 9000 in this show. Ikuraha is a master. |
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| A few days too late for the Kanba theory bandwagon :( Young girl watch oooouut |
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| The blowfish also appeared in the survival strategy sequence hahaha. I didn't notice that at first. XD |
| Absolutely hilarious, and I loved the survival strategy for this episode. 5/5 for this episode. |
| "The R1 Anime business is a cruel and shallow financial trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." |
| Dat seizon senryaku muted beginning made me laugh :D |
| Gosh, that was unexpected, especially the fact that Masako killed Mario accidentally... lol It was a refreshing one, perhaps from #17 on it's going to get tedious (ooooh how I hope so :DDDDD). |
| OH NO , MR.PRESIDENT! This episode was really funny. |
I LMAO @ The way the put Survival Strategy |
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| the silent senzou senryaku was priceless |
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| This show needs more FABULOUS MAX and less MR PRESIDENT WATCH OUT =.= |
| Dutch anime blogger with a love for Ikuhara's antics and proper storytelling. |
| I couldn't take this episode seriously because it was just too insane, and that's why it had some very funny moments! |
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| Another episode featuring TERRIBLE parenting. This definitely felt like a Nanami episode from Utena. While her past is certainly tragic, I think it's more twisted than anything. The English in this episode was epic! X^D And yay!!!! Survival Strategy returns! It's been too long.  |
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TechDragon said: i'm amused. XDD;I LMAO @ The way the put Survival Strategy <img src="http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/1047/43193535.jpg"> |
| I wonder what Masako meant when she said "I wont get on that train" the one that the man in suits, her father and Kamba were on. and they had the Kiga group logo. Hmm... has anybody wondered where Kamba is getting all that money? seems fishy to me :/ |
 i seriously lol'd. |
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| Even with only glimpses of Kana, he was pretty much a kiddy badass still. |
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