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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
53 70.67%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
15 20.00%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
3 4.00%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
2 2.67%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
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10-20-09, 4:26 AM

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Yea, I was thinking they should replace war with sports or video games. Too bad they don't have laser tag or paintball guns. That was freaky at the end. Kino was lucky. She could've given them warning shots in their heads.
 
11-25-09, 1:44 AM

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W.........T.........F?
 
11-25-09, 10:04 PM

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Best episode yet. This episode really hit home for me.
She said, "Don't make others suffer for your personal hatred."
 
11-28-09, 3:50 AM

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Wow... Now that is sick...

Makes you really question the solution of war... and nessasary sacrifices, but I really hope our world won't resolve in such solution...
 
12-17-09, 4:36 PM

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Holy shit, I think that was the sickest thing I've ever seen in an anime. Loved the ending - the villagers are also cowardly and just as willing to kill people weaker than themselves for their own satisfaction.
 
12-30-09, 12:02 PM

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Lepchin17 said:
W.........T.........F?
This. How can the people of those two countries even think of a solution like that?
 
02-16-10, 11:33 PM

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stAtic91 said:
Lepchin17 said:
W.........T.........F?
This. How can the people of those two countries even think of a solution like that?
Truthfully, that solution is much better than war... That being said, it is still simply a contest that could of been done without killing.
 
02-21-10, 2:49 AM

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And that leads me to the conclusion.. War is never good. Whether your intention is good or bad, it doesn't matter because war is war.

Also, I'd like to quote something my former social studies teacher told us "The end does not justify the means" - it means that even if your intention is good, the end result is not worth having if you have to break rules to achieve it.
 
03-24-10, 12:48 AM

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As soon as the "indigenous tribes" were pointed out, I knew what was coming.
It started off so well, too... T_T
Just my two cents.
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06-14-10, 3:40 PM

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damn what a controversial episode O.o...but it satirised the real war so nice,it was awesome :)
for 80% of the time,i just wanted to slap that old hag :\

5/5

PS:next time they should just play paintball and stop killing innocent people
Sayonara,papa!


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06-19-10, 7:40 PM

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"War. War never changes."
 
07-04-10, 9:57 AM

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TheFirst said:
I think it's a mistake to look at this show with reality-tinted glasses. Kino's Journey is a satire. It is allegory, a twisted reflection of the real world through which viewers can focus and learn about the world they live in.

I personally loved the twist at the end of the episode. The 3rd party, whom we saw as innocent victims of the two nations at war, turns out not to be so innocent. Just like their more powerful counterparts, they turn to the barbaric slaughter of those weaker than themselves as well. Through their wanton killings of unarmed travelers, they made themselves no different than their tormentors.

This episode was an excellent observation on human nature.


This sums it up quite well. Of all the episodes so far, I think the message in this one was the most fittingly presented. Probably the best episode so far. I loved it.
 
07-13-10, 6:26 AM

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another stupidity of human beings.
 
11-05-10, 9:11 PM

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ARXLaevatein said:
"War. War never changes."

+1
 
01-18-11, 2:18 AM

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The cycle of violence.
I think it's quite realistic.
It may be a metaphor but this is pretty much what takes place in our world.
On a large scale.. and even just one person passing on abuse to another who passes on abuse to another.
 
03-07-11, 5:21 PM

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How twisted being humans are. “We haven’t had a war, nobody has died” – In the two “fighting” countries, that’s it. It’s like a game. A very sick game. “Let’s see who can kill more Tatatans and that’s who wins this war, this time!” It’s like they don’t consider them to humans, just animals, or mere things that are there just for them to sort out their differences in this perverse way – if there’s no casualty between them, then everything is OK.

“And that sacrifice absolutely cannot be our children”— Ha, other peoples’ children don’t matter, do they? Human selfishness reaches unimaginable heights.

And yet, we see. What we thought were the innocent victims are not so innocent anymore. Just because they want to take out their frustration, their anger and all the anguish they feel. No matter on who, it’s the same. One always fall lowly, trying to seek revenge. Wars are hopeless, there’s no way out of the hole; we only dig on further.

It’s futile. Even if they change wars for sports, or videogames competitions, someone will feel unhappy and suggest the idea of war once again. It’s a vicious circle. It’s impossible to free of it. We’re, in real life, in the same situation, aren’t we?
 
06-10-11, 8:04 AM

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I'm surprised no one's mentioned the Cold War yet. This seemed to be a (simplified) satire of that to me.

This was probably the most pessimistic episode of this show yet. The subtitle of "the Beautiful World" has never been more ironic. So much unnecessary bloodshed and death.
 
08-09-11, 4:11 AM

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I thought the end was quite interesting, in the way that Kino reacted to killing that man. She was clearly shaken, and we've never seen her like that before. She always stays so calm.

I wondered what she was thinking at that moment, and the thought sturck me - was she comparing herself to the two warring countries? They killed the Tatatans in order to keep peace amongst themselves and protect their citizens. She killed the man in order to protect herself. Pehaps for a moment she really did understand how the curator felt.

A very interesting ending to a fantastic episode.
 
10-23-11, 1:06 PM

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Im actually impressed at the responses here. That people took to it so personally means that the episode did a good job of building a bond between people. Similar to school days where despite hating the show, you get drawn in and get emotionally involved with the show.

Kino so far has been an epceptional anime as it makes you think due to good writing. Yet it has always touched on my reason this is the first time my emotions have been hit and im positevely shocked.

Too most people saying kino should have gotten involved, if she did she woulnd't be who she is if she did. Think of her as someone who follows the prime-directive of star trek, but not out of any false sense of morality. She is a traveler, she merely observes. Its like an anthropologist who stuides other cultures. You are there to observe and learn from them, not change it.


Couldnt help but feel the parralells between this episode and the hundred years war in france. They'd be figthing on and off never really accomplishing anything in the long run. Wasnt until france fought the english off france that the conflict ended (which didnt stop em from participating in the crusades).

The one thing i didnt see is that there wasnt anything that was gained through this sideshow. Would have made more sense if the winner of the game gets territories etc.... This would make things even more interesting since it would mirror tribal warfare yet with modern arms, an interesting contrast.
 
12-04-11, 10:03 PM

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THAT CURATOR WAS A WOMAN!????
Plato is my friend — Aristotle is my friend — but my greatest friend is truth
 
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