Kino's Journey Episode 12 Discussion
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View Poll Results: Kino's Journey Episode 12 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 53 | 70.67% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 15 | 20.00% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 3 | 4.00% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 2 | 2.67% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 2 | 2.67% |
Voters: 75
#1
07-28-08, 1:38 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- What a terribly disgusting and cowardly way of seeing the reality. |
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08-22-08, 2:26 PM
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wow talk about being ignorant, those guys getting massacred shouldve just left DUH!!! |
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09-28-08, 9:09 PM
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I <3 this episode. Although both parties did suffer tragic losses during their war, to redirect the suffering to that 3rd party...it makes you wonder what the value of a life really is...and what cost peace and humanity takes. In all of honesty, I like how Kino stays neutral in situations like these, but at the same time...if you put yourself in her shoes, it feels so damn hard to stay in that position. >.<; |
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10-21-08, 8:20 PM
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I'm sorry if I was Kino I would have to fix this situation, sometimes you have to try to save your fellow man, and this is a time. I can't stand that, if you have a war fight it yourself, not fighting is a cowardly act. Normally with this show I can see both sides but this time I feel nothing for the 2 countries. My anime list |
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10-22-08, 4:54 AM
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skullking123 said: wow talk about being ignorant, those guys getting massacred shouldve just left DUH!!! LOL yeah. Those two countries were jst plain selfish and half-assed... attacking unarmed ppl like that... sheesh... |
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10-24-08, 12:08 PM
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I wonder why they don't fight their battles through sport... nothing would be wrong with that - even though I hate sport :P -. None the less kino should really try to do something about the situation, not just leave... |
#7
11-02-08, 2:21 PM
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Hm, this episode was no different from the others, at least that's what I felt. This show lacks reality quite a bit, because I see little to no emotion in it, the message in it is clear to me though. |
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11-22-08, 7:27 PM
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A flawed approach. These people cannot see for themselves how pointless their wars are. They wait all year for a 25 minute slaughter fest? They're nothing more than common murderers. |
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12-06-08, 5:13 PM
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I think it's a mistake to look at this show with reality-tinted glasses. Kino's Journey is a satire. It is allegory, a twisted reflection of the real world through which viewers can focus and learn about the world they live in. I personally loved the twist at the end of the episode. The 3rd party, whom we saw as innocent victims of the two nations at war, turns out not to be so innocent. Just like their more powerful counterparts, they turn to the barbaric slaughter of those weaker than themselves as well. Through their wanton killings of unarmed travelers, they made themselves no different than their tormentors. This episode was an excellent observation on human nature. |
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12-30-08, 9:33 PM
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Very disturbing episode. The battle scene went nicely with the music, that scene reminded me a lot of the scene in Apocalypse Now, where Duavall uses Wagner during battle. |
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01-03-09, 12:24 PM
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TheFirst said: I think it's a mistake to look at this show with reality-tinted glasses. Kino's Journey is a satire. It is allegory, a twisted reflection of the real world through which viewers can focus and learn about the world they live in. I personally loved the twist at the end of the episode. The 3rd party, whom we saw as innocent victims of the two nations at war, turns out not to be so innocent. Just like their more powerful counterparts, they turn to the barbaric slaughter of those weaker than themselves as well. Through their wanton killings of unarmed travelers, they made themselves no different than their tormentors. This episode was an excellent observation on human nature. Absolutely. This was an unremittingly dark reflection on human barbarism and I thought the total lack of empathy was particularly horrifying. Kino No Tabi really is rather depressing sometimes! "The world is not beautiful" indeed. Modified by fedaykin, 01-03-09, 12:39 PM "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." Douglas Adams |
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02-10-09, 7:57 AM
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This episode portrays really well why war is, at least most of the times, completely useless. GreatS said: That would be a very good idea, actually. =] Since they're mostly competing, they should held a sport festival once a year or so... I wonder why they don't fight their battles through sport... nothing would be wrong with that - even though I hate sport :P -. None the less kino should really try to do something about the situation, not just leave... |
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05-13-09, 11:18 AM
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If Kino ever has a child, I bet she'll just keeping traveling leaving several single dads in her wake. Or just use proper protection until she's like, 35. In which she will still keep traveling and leaving several lovesick guys behind. That relating to the woman who lost her kids. Probably wouldn't quite happen to most people who lost their kids. And especially not Kino. She's not the type. Kind of funny when people always say the statement "you'll understand when you're older" or "when you're pregnant/have kids". ![]() Old avatar and sig retired for now. |
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06-09-09, 2:41 PM
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'And that sacrifice absolutely cannot be our children' - wow, I wanted to punch what's-her-(Terminator-like)face REALLY bad. That was disturbing. And ha! The title ('Mother's Love') is so messed up...like that mother's thinking. ...Wow. Kino actually killed someone. ('No need for that, Hermes' - sure thing. People in the neighboring country would be equally f***ed up.) - If you believe this place holds you, it is a prison. If you do not wish to leave, it will become a fortress. Current icon: Kusuriuri from Mononoke by pana (LJ username) |
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08-04-09, 3:06 AM
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GreatS said: None the less kino should really try to do something about the situation, not just leave... Kino =/= Ginko skullking123 said: wow talk about being ignorant, those guys getting massacred shouldve just left DUH!!! leave where? say that to the innocent ppl in places like Afghanistan and Iraq...they have nowhere to go. "Droll thing life is—that mysterious arrangement of merciless logic for a futile purpose. The most you can hope from it is some knowledge of yourself—that comes too late—a crop of unextinguishable regrets." - Joseph Conrad (Heart of Darkness) |
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08-13-09, 4:05 PM
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Peace + Killing people is not peace at all! Well, I'm quite sad that this animes is ending... Only 1 episode left >.< At least next episode seems to be happy =D |
#17
08-21-09, 10:36 AM
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A masterpiece. One of the most beautiful anime episodes i've ever seen. |
#18
08-24-09, 9:23 PM
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What a disgusting way to thinking. I wish Kino did step in, like she did with the combat episode. I also wish that Kino's world was more cohesive. It seems that each country she goes to are totally separated from each other and don't connect at all. One country is technologically advance with hover crafts, while another has just discovered flying. |
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09-14-09, 9:29 AM
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For some reason this is one of the most memorable anime episodes to me. And okay. One whole race has to suffer because two countries were fighting over a stupid hill? Teddy said: This episode portrays really well why war is, at least most of the times, completely useless. GreatS said: That would be a very good idea, actually. =] Since they're mostly competing, they should held a sport festival once a year or so... I wonder why they don't fight their battles through sport... nothing would be wrong with that - even though I hate sport :P -. None the less kino should really try to do something about the situation, not just leave... Replace war with some sort of Olympic competition! Yes! D: There are so many alternatives to war. And even though the Tantalans or whatever they're called are justified in their anger and frustration, when they pointlessly kill other innocent people, they just lower themselves to the same level as the two other countries, only they kill on a smaller scale. But it doesn't make them any better. <_< |
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09-28-09, 9:20 PM
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I actually did feel sorry for the country that chose to divert its war onto another village. To me, the message of the story was just the futility of war in general. It's that actually the woman was right, a load of innocent people killing each other in the name of some random political dispute, and those same people killing different people instead are basically identical situations. But by making it about killing a third party, it finally becomes obvious that any war at all is just a mindless show of aggression. You feel like when they aren't actually killing each other, they'll eventually realise they have no reason to bear any ill will at all, and make peace with one another, and thus stop killing members of the other country. |












