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View Poll Results: Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon Episode 3 Discussion
| 5 out of 5: Loved it! | 30 | 36.59% | |
| 4 out of 5: Liked it | 16 | 19.51% | |
| 3 out of 5: It was OK | 19 | 23.17% | |
| 2 out of 5: Disliked it | 12 | 14.63% | |
| 1 out of 5: Hated it | 5 | 6.10% |
Voters: 82
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10-15-11, 12:29 PM
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Online Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 15889 |
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Still feeling stupid watching the anime (not get it). Ok, I admit that I wasn't paying attention while watching this anime (for all 3 eps.). Currently rewatching now. Still hearing Yune's voice for that girl with her bang covering her eyes. Oh, she's blind, so she has her bang covering her eyes. Minorin's character... singing Yuki Nagato. Edit: I just understood one thing, Horizon, Minorin's character, is a robot (no wonder she's emotionless like Yuki Nagato)? So Toori is in love with a robot because she looks like the girl that passed away long ago? lol @ the room sharing part because I want to agree on what the wheelchair girl said. And so what he said in the beginning of the anime about not running away is about going through that road?! ok... Modified by tsubasalover, 10-16-11, 1:55 PM |
#2
10-15-11, 3:10 PM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 10142 |
For me this episode translated into 3 important parts. Part 1 To me the most important was the following, ![]() How Suzu got some warmly welcomed by Toori and Horizon when she was young. That was really important and I actually liked seeing Suzu here. Suzu was very refreshing with her shy face and how Horizon and Toori touched her hand during their welcoming of her. That alone was worth that Suzu blush and nice back-story. While during all that I liked Asama’s smile here. Lovely group pose this was taken from afar and Claude from Ikoku Meiro no Croisee would be proud should he have seen the sign of the store where Horizon is working. Part 2 The following made me cry, ![]() Really emotionally done well when considering how beautifully shown Horizon is here and what caused her tragedy. Now I understand the “The Remorse” meaning. Despite that Horizon must had a reason to run like that in the crowd and ultimately end up being dead. Really it was a hard part indeed. Kudos to this series to make me emotional! First part in this episode! You can clearly see that Toori had major problems crossing that path since he clinged way too much to that pole here despite during that time having most a most amazing face here. Despite all that I applaud my man Toori for going wild into the path running like wild. Not to mention his expression while being in from of Masazumi here was not all the best at all. Nor was his behavior towards Masazumi here. While you can tell he was totally out of it being on that path especially with a further pitiful expression but it was hilarious to me and of course the running out again. In thee end my man Toori overcame and crossed the path while it was warming to see his sister tend to him. This might look stupid and all but see how you like seeing your girl being squashed when you are a kid. Now I understand Toori much better thanks to this episode. His regrets and remorse. Part 3 The final section is to commend on the ecchi. The ecchi was mainly focused on Asama with a nice start of seeing her wake up and of course that chest exposure. Now the best comes in the following, http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2010/d8dfa24e.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2010/6fb88e2f.jpg Full frontal view from afar and close up that may get uncensored. If it does, those breasts sure will epically big to see. Already them being more revealed shows how much of a size they are. I liked seeing Asama in another of her dresses and with more of her breast exposures along with more of it here as well as there. However it was cool to see her shoot out her bow at a real lost soul from what it looked like. Asama was totally win with her funny faces here and there before she shoots her arrow. There was some Masa breast rubbing around. Now that was not so bad. About thee end of the episode, the end was top notch that introduced more people. For one this guy here whom is very cool in looks and his sister is hot. Guess it has to do with her breasts mostly but face wise she ain’t so bad either. For 2 there is this crazy looking guy. I have a bad feeling about him but his assistant looks cool in appearance itself. Looks like one of the maids that replaced the Honda business from last episode attacks here someone and most likely kills him. The patrol dude. There is some portal here that opens or something is happening there while the ghost hunt failed badly here. Seems that Margot here did not really control well her powers for them to blow up a lot of things around like that. About preview, Toori is goofing out again. I wonder what the heck affected Suzu to be scared like this here and who the heck is taking P-01’s hand here? Can’t wait for maid battle! With some Futayo action. BTW Image Stitches are done here: http://myanimelist.net/blog.php?eid=178787 among them being group pics that are nice. Modified by Yumekichi11, 10-16-11, 2:12 AM |
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10-15-11, 5:39 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1983 |
Ariadust Horizon seem to be dead but not really dead, but what I don't get it's flashback. Did she lose amnesia or something? ProBlackbird.Wordpress.com - Check out my Blog |
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10-15-11, 7:24 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 4877 |
it seem MAL doesn't even allow me to quote people for now.... The "History repeats itself" is very simple concept. Refer to your bible at home,Christian like to refer to the past of what written in it to learn its moral and concept.Some people even mimic those holy act .Well, instead of making a new history , it is better to repeat the past and improve it. And ya, if you are faithful , you will go up heaven . The time line in this Anime is at around 1648.Whereby religion = power and authourity ... After 1638, the bible(seihu), seems to be malfunction and it stop telling people what suppose to do !! oh no, word end T.T |
#5
10-15-11, 8:13 PM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 481 |
I don't see the point of this episode. Like really... NOTHING really happened There goes more setting/past/history I demand history to repeat NOW! |
#6
10-16-11, 2:01 AM
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Offline Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 10142 |
Yeah it was interesting and people not understanding....sry people if you don't use your brains you will miss on this. There is no spoon feeding here anyone. The result is ????? I don't get it! While others like me get it. Thanks to my buddies Morninglory and that other person who mentioned in doing actual history research that it helped. So you see they are all trolling you with the notion of "History repeats itself." And so the historical reinstatement of what separated Japan before all due to some catalytic element. More later. Think we should lick Morninglory a little? He is reading the novel and damn well sharing amazing thoughts from it. |
#7
10-16-11, 9:30 AM
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Offline Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 4877 |
well... i am waiting for the sub as well. I don't really understand how did MotoNobu take matsudaira's name and change to Ariadust will appeal to Seiren(association that abide to Seihu)?...When the name was give back, 2 thing is create.First is the Ariadust academy, and second is the MotoNobu's secret daughter. So, when the name is back, does that mean he fully inherit the name Matsudaira? .. Now,Sensei's name is Matsudaira Motonobu. I can see that he is now using the name .When I press the link of his name in wiki, it show Tokugawa Ieyasu ...they change name T.T 竹千代(幼名)→ 松平元信 → 元康 → 家康 → 徳川家康 Takechiyo→matsudaira Motonobu→ Motoyasu → Ieyasu →Tokugawa Ieyasu The word "moto" means previous/original....So the new Nobunaga is hiding somewhere. MotoMatsudaira , the Shitennou(四天王) consist of Honda Tadakatsu,Sakakibara Yasumasa, ii naomasa, and Sakai tadatsugu.They all doesn't have the Matsudaira name anyway. I am suck in history, So I may have made mistake here. pls help T.T |
#8
10-16-11, 12:58 PM
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Online Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 15889 |
MorningGlory said: ]well... i am waiting for the sub as well. I don't really understand how did MotoNobu take matsudaira's name and change to Ariadust will appeal to Seiren(association that abide to Seihu)?...When the name was give back, 2 thing is create.First is the Ariadust academy, and second is the MotoNobu's secret daughter. So, when the name is back, does that mean he fully inherit the name Matsudaira? .. Now,Sensei's name is Matsudaira Motonobu. I can see that he is now using the name .When I press the link of his name in wiki, it show Tokugawa Ieyasu ...they change name T.T 竹千代(幼名)→ 松平元信 → 元康 → 家康 → 徳川家康 Takechiyo→matsudaira Motonobu→ Motoyasu → Ieyasu →Tokugawa Ieyasu The word "moto" means previous/original....So the new Nobunaga is hiding somewhere. MotoMatsudaira , the Shitennou(四天王) consist of Honda Tadakatsu,Sakakibara Yasumasa, ii naomasa, and Sakai tadatsugu.They all doesn't have the Matsudaira name anyway. I am suck in history, So I may have made mistake here. pls help T.T There's list of the family who inherited Matsudaira in here. I kind of looked into it, but still cannot find the answer to your question. I'm suck in history, too. Modified by tsubasalover, 10-16-11, 1:18 PM |
#9
10-16-11, 1:11 PM
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Offline Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 120 |
I dont understand anything about this anime yet I've seen 3 episodes o.o |
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10-16-11, 4:44 PM
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Offline Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 29 |
Polarity said: It usually takes 5 episodes for things to get started.I dont understand anything about this anime yet I've seen 3 episodes o.o ![]() |
#11
10-17-11, 10:43 PM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 616 |
No, by 2 episodes of a 12-13 episode series, you should have some understanding of the story... I think there story is progressing far too slow for a 13 episode series as well. This episode flooded us with history of toori and how suzu became happy to be around toori. The understanding so far that I came up with is... The future is in constant power struggle where citizens and assassins are used to oppose each other. The reason the students we see a lot are going to be involved is because of toori's connection to the Horizon family... |
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10-18-11, 12:41 AM
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MorningGlory said: well... i am waiting for the sub as well. I don't really understand how did MotoNobu take matsudaira's name and change to Ariadust will appeal to Seiren(association that abide to Seihu)?...When the name was give back, 2 thing is create.First is the Ariadust academy, and second is the MotoNobu's secret daughter. So, when the name is back, does that mean he fully inherit the name Matsudaira? .. Now,Sensei's name is Matsudaira Motonobu. I can see that he is now using the name .When I press the link of his name in wiki, it show Tokugawa Ieyasu ...they change name T.T 竹千代(幼名)→ 松平元信 → 元康 → 家康 → 徳川家康 Takechiyo→matsudaira Motonobu→ Motoyasu → Ieyasu →Tokugawa Ieyasu The word "moto" means previous/original....So the new Nobunaga is hiding somewhere. MotoMatsudaira , the Shitennou(四天王) consist of Honda Tadakatsu,Sakakibara Yasumasa, ii naomasa, and Sakai tadatsugu.They all doesn't have the Matsudaira name anyway. I am suck in history, So I may have made mistake here. pls help T.T I have the same question, but a answer is something I don't have neither. This is story is way to much random. Hadena subs don't help too much either. I've understand most of this show, last ep discussion there was a post talking about the actual plot, it helped me a lot. This episode was interesting too. Also, why the hell Toori was running like that? Because he was close to Horizon's grave or something? I didn't get it, even though it was really funny. |
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10-18-11, 12:55 AM
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This show is a waste of budget. Even I gave it 3 episodes worth of my time for anything to start happening, but no, no idea at all what is this about. Even with the overthe top boring opening episode I thought the "shining strings FAB" guy will descend into the world below, the wilderness, embarks on a quest to find that girl and confess. That just didnt happen, dashed overbloated hopes to seek any greatness in a waste of time this is. Some animators should read a few books and start writing scripts instead, thats what the industry lacks, not boobmonsters or girls with differently coulored eyes, mildly mannered old sisters or ones with wings for no particular reason. |
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10-18-11, 2:04 AM
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Offline Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 197 |
Some animators should read a few books and start writing scripts instead Did you just ask the animators to become screenwriters? O.o |
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10-18-11, 2:25 AM
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So close to dropping this anime. I've already given it 3 episodes to surprise me, but it hasn't happened. What a disappointment. ![]() |
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10-18-11, 3:05 AM
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daniellkun said: They mention that Toori killed Horizon. Toori felt like going back to the place he killed Horizon but He is just a chicken. So...he end up going in and out .Also, why the hell Toori was running like that? Because he was close to Horizon's grave or something? This episode we learn there is a special place is made just for Toori in the remembrance of his greatest regret in life.Everyone know Toori's regret but from what we seen in this few episode, Toori look like just a idiot, happy going, and pervert guy.How can people still accept him and love him so much. Koukai Toori( path of regret), The word Toori can be translate to "path" or his name Toori. Its a double meaning. This episode also reveal that Horizon is the daughter of MotoNobu(sensei).Toori suspect that Robot is Horizon, but why she was sent to Musashi last year. ShortTermCrook said: This show is a waste of budget. Even I gave it 3 episodes worth of my time for anything to start happening, but no, no idea at all what is this about. So far, I think the story is quite interesting for this episode, unless those big boob is blocking the story lol. oh, and one more thing. The character's boob in light novel is much more bigger than that .. Modified by MorningGlory, 10-18-11, 3:20 AM |
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10-18-11, 3:42 AM
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When this anime startet, I at least had hope, the action could be somewhat good. But now it's these ridiculous and unspeakably boring characters all the time. Friggin bad stuff. |
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10-18-11, 3:42 AM
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MorningGlory said: I can concur with proofs:So far, I think the story is quite interesting for this episode, unless those big boob is blocking the story lol. oh, and one more thing. The character's boob in light novel is much more bigger than that .. http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2010/dcac6cee.jpg http://i1207.photobucket.com/albums/bb480/Yumekichi11/Picture%2010/3ab9cd58.jpg Unfortunately I wish I could put in a spoiler cause it would be awesome for people. Those breasts are so much better in those illustrations. Oh dear oh dear. |
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10-18-11, 4:29 AM
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Okay, after watching 3 ep and still not getting most of it, I'm dropping this one. I'm not saying the story is bad, it's just that I think it may be much too complex for me, especially with the background and everything. I guess this anime is just not for me. I want Rambo in a mecha-suit with a laser-chainsaw gun that fires nuclear warheads, fighting the love-child of Predator, Alien, a group of Bangladeshi terrorists, and Satan. (Actually that would be a pretty sick show) - StopDropAndBowl |
#20
10-18-11, 5:13 AM
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Offline Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 37 |
People need to stop giving this show credit. If you can't follow the plot because the show decides to have 30+ characters and info dump for like 5 mins an episode, than that's the show's poor writing and pacing, not you being dumb. It's not like some shows where you might miss bits because the shows being subtle. If you really wanted to get the most out of this show than your going to have to watch it multiply times and pay attention to all the characters names. Though in my opinion, so far this show doesn't seem worth the effort. |











