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Sep 8, 2009 10:31 AM
#41
The only question is this: if you had never read the manga, would you see glaring plot holes or character missteps? The answer probably is: no. The movie works by itself, you dont need to read the manga to 'understand' anything, its all there in the movie. It's a seperate beast of its own. The director concentrates on different themes, thats the biggest difference between the manga and the film, and its great because we're left with two different works that approach the same subject from different angles, and this is as it should be because they're different mediums. Cramming the manga into a film is utterly stupid, and the director obviously is not, seeing as he wrote the damn thing himself, he knew better than anyone to change the focus of the story and turn it into a feature film experience. Honestly, I just dont understand people who want the manga animated into a feature film, its obviously impossible. And the chances of it being animated properly for TV also remain very low, you know they'd fuck it up, they simply wouldnt please you enough, there would be filler episodes, and other changes, etc. |
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Sep 9, 2009 8:53 PM
#42
Corrupt_Id said: M_A said: Rail_Man said: I think Akira sucks. It had good animation but the story made no sense whatsoever. It's definitely overrated. Just because you say it made no sense doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense. It just doesn't cater to the viewer, which is always a good thing. I really dislike the "i don't understand it so it's bad" menatlity people have. A lot of people bash Bergman and Tarkovsky for being too indulgent and hard to decipher at times, even though they might be the greatest directors of all time. The film failed to encompass the entirety of the manga's story. By doing so it overlooked much of the characters' motivations and major plot points. The film is constant exposition with no real explanation as to the significance of the events. You're basically forced to the read the manga in order to be able to piece it together and make any sense of it all. At least, that's how I felt about the movie. On a somewhat unrelated note, Tarkovsky's film, Stalker, is beautiful. I love the general atmosphere of the film and the dismal sense of foreboding it creates in the viewer. The lack of any particular answers throughout much of it allows for multiple interpretations and points of view which only enhance the experience for me. Akira as a film and Akira as a manga adaptation are two different discussions in my opinion. I have to agree with Cihan(ehh..Beatnik) also. Speaking of Tarkovsky, if you haven't already, make sure to watch Zerkalo. It's probably the most beautiful film i have ever seen and is my second favorite movie of all time. (and i don't even get a good chunk of it still) |
Sep 13, 2009 1:36 PM
#43
Corrupt_Id said: On a somewhat unrelated note, Tarkovsky's film, Stalker, is beautiful. I love the general atmosphere of the film and the dismal sense of foreboding it creates in the viewer. The lack of any particular answers throughout much of it allows for multiple interpretations and points of view which only enhance the experience for me. have you read the book Stalker is based on? it's called Roadside Picnic if i remember correctly, it's just as awesome. |
Oct 4, 2009 10:06 AM
#44
M_A said: Akira as a film and Akira as a manga adaptation are two different discussions You said it all now. People must have this in mind when watching the movie. Most of us that watched the movie ages ago, didn't even knew that there was a manga of Akira made and just enjoyed the movie in it's singular brilliance. |
Oct 24, 2009 8:36 AM
#45
I saw this movie along time ago, now I'm 17, into anime a lot, and have a whole different perspective in what I like. When I first saw this I was around 11 or 12 I think in my whole DBZ phase(lol). I didn't think the movie was very good. Upon re watching it now at 17 years old(me not the movie)I thought it was pretty good. I didn't like it so much to say "it's the greatest thing ever" but I kept in mind the whole time that it was made in 1988. The art was beautiful for it's time(Bluray version looks incredible, but besides the point) The animation itself was great. The story, although not my favorite genre, was also pretty good. |
Nov 3, 2009 9:36 AM
#46
well i dont claim to be an exbirt on the subject or that Akira is perfect but i know that its under rated on this site. I cannot see why anyone would rate it lower than lucky star (ranked 8.39). To me i think that when a rip off not-that-funny show get rated higher than an all time classic, the community has somthing seriously wrong with it. In my eyes it would be like rating beethoven's Symphony No. 9 worse than a jonas brothers CD. |
Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM
#47
Nov 7, 2009 5:18 PM
#48
anime_daisuki said: FALLEN101 said: The plot is relatively slow, espiecially in the manga. Wait, there's a plot? Took real guts to say that with a bleach avatar |
Dec 28, 2009 2:19 AM
#49
i didn't know K9999 from KoF was based on Tetsuo...same looks.. moves and even VA... |
Dec 29, 2009 12:14 AM
#50
Just recently saw this again, while definitely great and groundbreaking for it's time it is far from perfect. I would personally rate it from the 8-8.5 range. There were times where I was completely lost with the plot, especially towards the end. Where exactly did Tetsuo go at the end? What was the purpose of Kei? The movie was also redundant at times, Kaneda served little purpose in the grand scheme of things; he was merely the foil to Tetsuo's inferiority complex. The editing was fantastic, the plot was very compelling and the action sequences were simply outstanding. Akira is a marvel to behold among science fiction anime but no it is not perfect. Does it do itself justice just by being the way it is? Yes, it does. Also you can't really compare Vampire hunter D to Akira, they're two completely different genres. One has to do with vampires and the other has to do with a post WW3 deteriorating world. |
Jan 6, 2010 11:27 AM
#51
I must admit I find interesting how people on MAL judge 10+ years old anime by today's standards and how randomly the rates are given. it's somewhat funny, on the other hand it makes me feel like and old hag (well I may even be, considering the average age of MAL's users :3 ) anyway I've rewatched Akira today after 10 years, besides the better quality of the blu ray compared to the old VHS, it still is a masterpiece. |
Jan 31, 2010 9:54 AM
#52
FALLEN101 said: L Why does everyone like Akira? I think Gamespot pretty much nails it: We judge more critically as time goes by, because our expectations as game players are constantly increasing. When we review a game, we consider it at the exact point in time at which the evaluation is taking place (generally, the week of a game's release) and compare it to what we believe to be the current standards of quality at that time. In general, GameSpot does not favor highly derivative games, which mostly recycle elements from other, previous games. Instead, we appreciate original concepts and ideas that are executed well. This also means that each time an excellent game is released, it becomes incrementally more difficult for another game to be as good in the grand scheme of things. As the quality of gaming experiences naturally improves over time, we do not simply rate new games higher, even if they're technically better. Instead, we adjust our expectations and continually recalibrate our numeric rating scale accordingly. What this means in practice is that a high score awarded today by GameSpot is worth more than if we awarded the same score yesterday. In other words, a game that earns a high score today is probably superior in overall quality to a game that earned the same score on our scale several years ago. (If you're still confused. Hint: change the words 'game' inthe article to 'anime') |
Jan 31, 2010 1:23 PM
#53
Because Akira is in my name; Zakira zAKIRA see? Yay Me. |
Feb 5, 2010 7:46 AM
#54
Rail_Man said: I think Akira sucks. It had good animation but the story made no sense whatsoever. It's definitely overrated. Following your line of thought, then is correct to say: David Lynch movie's suck because the story made no sense? People nowadays are expecting always self-explanatory plots, which are as basic as a Children's Book. This movie though, has an mind provoking plot, where the viewer has actually to think for himself. In my opinion, a big problem today is that people don't have anymore imagination, or to put it simply, people are getting stupider (and I dont mean you guys, I'm talikng in general here). Look for example, at the time when movies were mute. At that time movie had no more than 20-30 lines, and still they were masterpieces. This shows intelligence, imagination, most of the time the viewers knew what the characters were felling, even with them muted. Another example is video games. In 1977, the Atari 2600 released and it was one huge sucess, lasting for over 10 years. And the games were amazing. Just look at this: In the 70 there was imagination. Now it looks like this: This is basically the some game: you are a plain who flies over a city shooting up stuff. the only difference is the 2nd one where no imagination what so ever was needed. I'm very sorry that I went so off-topic like this, it really wasn't my intention. The only thing i wanted to show is that nowadays people are beeing slacves of the luxury. every information we get today is direct input to our brain and we just sit and watch. please remeber that movies is a form of art, and art sould be the most thought and emotion provoking thing we have. Fortunally there are still movies, that bring the viewer to think, to have emotions and this are films where the plot is the least interesting thing, like david lynch ones. I my opinion Akira is one of them. |
Feb 9, 2010 9:45 AM
#55
And the games were amazing. Just look at this: In the 70 there was imagination. Now it looks like this: So are you saying without technological limitations that made the game that way, developers will still create a piece of SHIT like that? No. They will not. Your example is extremely flawed. But there's a tidbit of knowledge that can be inferred from them. That game probably was probably one of the first video games to be released, people that are used to playing playing barbie dools and action figures would have been totally blown out of their minds . 'Dude, the screen is displaying frickin' dots that looks like an airplane and I can control them, this is uber cool!" I imagine someone saying back then. But for the people who had experience Tom Clancy's HAWX, how could you expect people to appreciate that piece of SHIT game? The same logic can be applied to Akira. Akira sucks to today's standards. But we couldn't have reach that without Akira setting the bar very very up back then. It was the best of its time, but its time is finally up. |
jomelsontancoApr 11, 2010 1:50 AM
Feb 17, 2010 2:57 PM
#56
FALLEN101 said: Which if you asked the vast majority of the people on the planet earth, that's exactly how they would rate it. Welcome to the 21st century where everyone has either become jaded, or just plain retarded. This is sort of ironic coming from you, considering your original post in this thread. You were apparently only 15 years old at the time, though, so I suppose I can't be too hard on you... On the other hand, I saw this movie when I was 9 and never had the problems understanding it that some kids these days do. Beatnik did a great job of explaining things, but this thread is proof that younger anime fans are mostly (if not totally) incapable of reading into psychological, psychosexual, cultural, and historical subtexts in anime (or film, comics, anything). There's nothing "overrated" about Akira. Failure to understand the story it tells and all its implications is a failure on the part of the viewer, not the anime. Beatnik's already explained why this is so, so I don't need to sit here repeating things he's already made clear (even though some people still won't understand, naturally). Failure to even acknowledge its technical achievements only demonstrates a total lack of perspective. Honestly, understanding Akira requires a certain level of intuitive thought that some idiots cannot handle. Fucking retarded statements like, "There's a plot?" say nothing more than, "I failed to comprehend this story." Nothing. Get over it and go back to Bleach or whatever. Where exactly did Tetsuo go at the end? If you're seriously asking a question like this, I really pity your lack of imagination. |
zenoslimeFeb 17, 2010 3:00 PM
Feb 22, 2010 4:38 PM
#57
antitype said: FALLEN101 said: Which if you asked the vast majority of the people on the planet earth, that's exactly how they would rate it. Welcome to the 21st century where everyone has either become jaded, or just plain retarded. This is sort of ironic coming from you, considering your original post in this thread. I apologize, I meant it about the Symphony no. 9 failing in comparison to a Jonas Bros. CD. I still do not like Akira at all, I can understand why it's considered a classic I suppose but that doesn't mean that I have to like it. I did give it another chance, read the manga, etc., and I simply do not like it, however I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm incapable of reading into 'psychologival, psychosexual, cultural, and historical subtexts in anime (or anything.) I have read Samuel R. Delany's Dhalgren which pretty much the American equivalent to Akira and I love it, and I have to say that though I don't totally understand it, I don't believe anyone can, I think that I understand it well enough. And truth be told, I am a huge fan of all David Lynch's work, and was a fan when I made this post, at the time of posting I had seen Wild at Heart, Blue Velvet, and Eraserhead and I loved them all. Now I own all the ones already listed along with Mulholland Dr., Crumb, and Lost Highway and I love all of them too. So I think I'm pretty good at comprehending strange things and understanding them. (If anyone on MAL wants to start a Lynch thread PM me and I'd love to throw in my thoughts.) As for the failure to understand the story of an anime is not always the failure of the viewer. The anime MindGame was practically made to be not understood, just enjoyed. You can call me incapable of reading into it or whatever but honestly that movie had no plot or really anything cohesive to hold it together besides its weirdness. You certainly all make some good points and maybe I have become jaded now with the newer anime coming out, but I am a huge fan of a lot of older series such as Ronin Warriors, Vampire Hunter D, Kite, Megazone 23 (Which in my opinion totally shows up Akira), Cyborg 009, and so on. Just because they were made in the 80s and the animation isn't up to the standards of today is not why I like/dislike them, I really don't care what the animation looks like so long as the story is interesting or it's just plain fun to watch, and let's be honest the stories for Vampire Hunter D and Ronin Warriors were awful but they were fun. Akira however was not fun nor interesting in my opinion. Maybe I had to grow up in the 80s to appreciate it, I'm not entirely sure. All I know is that I simply do not like it. I started this thread because I wanted to see what people's opinions on the topic were, I intended for some relatively intelligent people to comment and fortunately they did, such as Beatnik(back then he was called Cyhan) and MrUtopiaMan, as well as many others who have come after them. The comments were interesting enough and passionate enough to make me give the movie a second chance, even after all that I simply did not enjoy it. I still do not. To each his own I suppose, and I guess that's really the lesson I learned from all this. But the other main reason I started this thread, and I believe I actually stated it, is why people love Akira so much and yet they turn a blind eye to the classics, like the things done by Go Nagai, Astro Boy, Gatchaman, Megazone 23, and so forth. That's what really bothers me is that everyone out there who has watched more anime than just the crap they show on Cartoon Network knows what Akira is but they have no inkling of what those other anime are, or they call them garbage. That was and is my biggest problem with the Akira business. |
Apr 11, 2010 1:53 AM
#58
FALLEN101 said: I started this thread because I wanted to see what people's opinions on the topic were, I intended for some relatively intelligent people to comment and fortunately they did, such as Beatnik(back then he was called Cyhan) and MrUtopiaMan, as well as many others who have come after them. The comments were interesting enough and passionate enough to make me give the movie a second chance, even after all that I simply did not enjoy it. I still do not. To each his own I suppose, and I guess that's really the lesson I learned from all this. Exact same thing I want to say. antitype said: FALLEN101 said: ]Where exactly did Tetsuo go at the end? If you're seriously asking a question like this, I really pity your lack of imagination. Com on, antitype. Cut him some slack. As for the answer to the question, it is pretty much unanswerable. It is not possible to provide an exact answer if the movie itself did not provide a distinct location that can be distinguish as a perceptible reality. Taking things as it is though, I'd say Tetsuo's bloated whatchamacallit is spontaneously supercompressed by a tremendous force containing it into a single impercetible dot generating enough heat to recreate the Big-bang resulting in the birth of another universe. |
jomelsontancoApr 11, 2010 2:18 AM
Apr 11, 2010 2:53 PM
#59
Both the manga and anime are great. Akira is probably one of the greatest pieces of animation though. It's smething that anime movies just don't have anymore. It was hand drawn, and had some actual thought behind it. |
Apr 21, 2010 2:37 PM
#60
Scallion said: Kaneda's bike. Seriously, it deserves its own character page. YES! that would kick @$$ i loved his bike. |
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Apr 21, 2010 6:17 PM
#61
Akira is a curse on Otomo. He will never and never did make an anime better than Akira. |
Apr 24, 2010 4:17 PM
#62
ArtRodriguez said: It was hand drawn, and had some actual thought behind it. Wow... I gave this show an 8, considering it to be really good, but with some flaws here and there. This changes a lot.... Grade up to 9.... :) |
May 2, 2010 1:34 AM
#63
nina4life said: ArtRodriguez said: It was hand drawn, and had some actual thought behind it. Wow... I gave this show an 8, considering it to be really good, but with some flaws here and there. This changes a lot.... Grade up to 9.... :) So are you saying prior to giving it a score of 9, you are not aware that it is hand-drawn and that you actually believe that no actual thought (duh, all works must have 'some' actual thought in the making of them) has been put in making Akira? |
May 2, 2010 12:19 PM
#64
Not all anime have thought to them. We have anime like Blue Flames floating around. |
Jun 3, 2010 4:01 PM
#65
Jom2 said: nina4life said: ArtRodriguez said: It was hand drawn, and had some actual thought behind it. Wow... I gave this show an 8, considering it to be really good, but with some flaws here and there. This changes a lot.... Grade up to 9.... :) So are you saying prior to giving it a score of 9, you are not aware that it is hand-drawn and that you actually believe that no actual thought (duh, all works must have 'some' actual thought in the making of them) has been put in making Akira? I'm saying that I thought this show doesn't have "only" solid animation. But seeing that it's hand-drawn actually changes looking at that side of the anime a lot. This is a great anime, no doubt about that, fact that it's hand-drawn just adds points to already good score. And no, I do not have ANY examination whatsoever on anime before I watch them besides checking what they're about. Also, I DID NOT comment on "actual thought" part of previous post, just on graphic part. |
Aug 26, 2010 1:45 PM
#66
nina4life said: Jom2 said: nina4life said: ArtRodriguez said: It was hand drawn, and had some actual thought behind it. Wow... I gave this show an 8, considering it to be really good, but with some flaws here and there. This changes a lot.... Grade up to 9.... :) So are you saying prior to giving it a score of 9, you are not aware that it is hand-drawn and that you actually believe that no actual thought (duh, all works must have 'some' actual thought in the making of them) has been put in making Akira? I'm saying that I thought this show doesn't have "only" solid animation. But seeing that it's hand-drawn actually changes looking at that side of the anime a lot. This is a great anime, no doubt about that, fact that it's hand-drawn just adds points to already good score. And no, I do not have ANY examination whatsoever on anime before I watch them besides checking what they're about. Also, I DID NOT comment on "actual thought" part of previous post, just on graphic part. Exactly. You're saying that since it's hand-drawn then it must be a 9 not an 8. Being hand-drawn doesn't merit a higher score by itself. Explain further. |
Sep 29, 2010 11:39 PM
#67
I can explain why the animation being hand-drawn merits a higher score! :3 I'm currently in university to learn animation. 2D, computer and hand drawn. And let me tell you, it's not easy. The best way to appreciate Akira is to look at the process of traditional animation, see how much money they spent and how long it took them. You guys should go see the pencil tests of Akira on youtube(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQyxQdDiOsg). They show the clean up stage of some scenes in the animation. It's amazing! You should note the amazing draftsmanship and consistency in the lines and volume of the characters and motorcycles. Let me tell you first hand that keeping lines and volumes(like making a ball stay the same size and weight) consistent is SUPER HARD when it comes to animation, especially with pencil and paper. I have a hard enough time keeping volumes consistent in a flour sack! Even in Beauty and the Beast, you can see some mistakes in the volumes and placement of eyes and noses. As an animator, after looking at the pencil tests, I don't even care about the story anymore. I liked the story, but while I was watching Akira, I was too caught up in the visuals to even pay a lot of attention to the actual plot. Hahaha. But yeah, basically, what I'm trying to say is that if you understand how hard it must have been to work on this film, you can truly appreciate it. |
ItenaSep 29, 2010 11:47 PM
Oct 7, 2010 1:00 PM
#68
Itena said: I can explain why the animation being hand-drawn merits a higher score! :3 I'm currently in university to learn animation. 2D, computer and hand drawn. And let me tell you, it's not easy. The best way to appreciate Akira is to look at the process of traditional animation, see how much money they spent and how long it took them. You guys should go see the pencil tests of Akira on youtube(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQyxQdDiOsg). They show the clean up stage of some scenes in the animation. It's amazing! You should note the amazing draftsmanship and consistency in the lines and volume of the characters and motorcycles. Let me tell you first hand that keeping lines and volumes(like making a ball stay the same size and weight) consistent is SUPER HARD when it comes to animation, especially with pencil and paper. I have a hard enough time keeping volumes consistent in a flour sack! Even in Beauty and the Beast, you can see some mistakes in the volumes and placement of eyes and noses. As an animator, after looking at the pencil tests, I don't even care about the story anymore. I liked the story, but while I was watching Akira, I was too caught up in the visuals to even pay a lot of attention to the actual plot. Hahaha. But yeah, basically, what I'm trying to say is that if you understand how hard it must have been to work on this film, you can truly appreciate it. This ^ I'm not really into drawing, actually, I suck at it, and that gives me all the more reasons to give Akira +1 for being hand drawn. I can't really explain it better than just say, that point goes simply for hard work involved into creating this movie. |
Oct 19, 2010 4:45 AM
#69
renjikuchiki1 said: to tell you the truth, this was prob. one of the worst anime movies ever, second in my book only to my neighbor tortoro....though its very close..... HOLY SHIT! O__o Psajdak said: Akira NGE is overrated garbage. *fixed* |
eyerokOct 20, 2010 2:03 AM
"...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth') |
Dec 29, 2010 9:06 AM
#70
mr_utopia_man said: Same here. I also wonder why the hell everyone rates Akira a 10. For me, it's just an overrated, presumptuous, really bad movie.As someone who really wanted to love Akira, it was an incredible disappointment to me, too. The animation and art really were something special for its time, but the actual content of the movie was just awful. |
hugging six rabbits and having pink nightmares |
Jan 6, 2011 5:26 PM
#71
Jmaster363 said: anime_daisuki said: FALLEN101 said: The plot is relatively slow, espiecially in the manga. Wait, there's a plot? Took real guts to say that with a bleach avatar I lol'd Anyways, it was a good movie. I was flabbergasted at the animation quality. Most anime even today seems to be made with the mindset "Animate as little as possible an when you do do it badly", so this was a welcome change. |
May 12, 2011 4:36 PM
#72
I've never seen so many fools who obviously couldn't comprehend Akira. Maybe this generation is just stupid and only appreciate moe after all... |
Aug 4, 2011 2:07 PM
#73
how can anyone not to love this movie ? the animation is outstanding , and don't ever forget that it's in 1988 !!!!!!!!! like 23 years ago !! i think it's the mother of all the animes these days , it brought the anime industry into a whole new level , plus the plot was very very suitable for this kind of animation & genre :) |
Aug 4, 2011 2:24 PM
#74
Manga Hell Yes very day of the week [ i Re read the manga cover to Cover 5 times a year] anime Minus the Story Decompression* is awesome as well Cell animation is better * 1 this means i read all volumes *2 i understand this was needed |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Aug 21, 2011 2:38 PM
#75
Heh, some people hype over the movie too much and some people are bitter about it just because it's popular. I approached this movie without knowing what to expect, and personally I loved it. If it brings anything new to the viewers or not, I don't care, I think the movie was very well made and I sure appreciated the animation while I was watching it. |
Aug 25, 2011 7:27 AM
#76
Really good and fluent animation(the background was amazingly detailed), symphonic epic music themes, simple yet enjoyable story, symbolism and entertianment. The story is simple, if anyone can not understand, should never watch anything more than moeblob and shounen series. |
Oct 1, 2011 12:45 PM
#77
I like Akira because of how distinctive it is. I think for back then the animation was WAY ahead of it's time even if it is a little grainy. The plot while a little vague is all about the consequences of having too much power. Through Tetsuo we see how this power corrupts him to be better than everyone else thus leading to his ultimate downfall. I really liked Akira and to say that you didn't like it because it didn't make sense means that you just didn't want to think too hard. |
Oct 10, 2011 12:43 PM
#78
I have read the manga and watched the movie. I liked the manga, that's why the movie is mediocre in my eyes. It's impossible to squeeze every little thing from manga to the movie, but that doesn't mean I should accept it. |
Feb 18, 2012 9:50 PM
#79
Oh my god, I can't believe people are still walking around and yelping to read the manga because the anime didn't cover everything. Fun fact: Animation and literature are two separate mediums of storytelling. Nausicaa's film didn't cover everything in the manga. Does it mean it's incomplete or bad? Absolutely not. The film is it it's own entity, and worked with everything it had quite nicely. And honestly, even after reading the manga, I still think the film better showcases the messages and themes in the story. The manga was messy, and had too much cultist themes going on; as I read it I kept going "Who the fuck are these overzealous assholes? How come I don't care about them when I probably should?" More or less the same works for Akira. I watched the movie and still haven't read the manga. I think it's an amazing movie that easily stands on it's own. A lot of people watched the film before they even read or knew a manga for it existed, I imagine. Psajdak said: Akira is overrated garbage. I know this was posted years ago and he'll probably never see this. But you're a fucking idiot. |
Apr 10, 2012 9:35 PM
#80
I'm with the topic creator....I just saw this movie and was very disssappointed in it...the movie was confusing and boring imo....there are many better anime movies out there especially Grave of the Fireflies!!! That movie had me in tears everytime I saw it.... |
Apr 20, 2012 5:22 PM
#82
Klonoa79H said: Cause its a good movie? I think the post was originally created to talk about the massive amount of hype for the movie and its very supportive, defensive fanbase that repeatedly says "MASTERPIECE". Pretty much, devoted fans of Akira will say its a masterpiece, as if god created it himself, while people who did not find the movie to their liking or could not comprehend it decided its exactly the opposite of a masterpiece. Either way the people need to consider the value of the movie at the time it was released and realize it was not a stinking pile of shit, but definitely not a divine piece of art. The internet is full of people and hipsters that lack common sense and the ability to recognize something of merit. But you are right, Akira was a good movie, not a bad movie nor an epic masterpiece. |
Apr 20, 2012 6:39 PM
#83
same can be said for Death Note, it's a good show, but not the ~"best anime ever" quoted from newbie anime kids. They need to watch Akira, because it's part of history. |
May 11, 2012 10:47 AM
#84
Just watched it and I was hoping I'd like it but it was mediocre,sure it must have been good for it's time but it doesn't do or show anything i haven't seen before... |
May 11, 2012 10:53 AM
#85
renders said: Just watched it and I was hoping I'd like it but it was mediocre,sure it must have been good for it's time but it doesn't do or show anything i haven't seen before... When a person picks up an old show/movie it is usually to enjoy it for what it is in respect to the period of time it came out. If people used hindsight bias like yours then shows like M.A.S.H and I Love Lucy would slowly become "bad" but that's not the case as those shows are still scene as one of the best. |
May 11, 2012 12:46 PM
#86
Because it's their oppinion? These threads are pretty pointless. People like it, or they don't, it's that simple. It is like Anime_Name said about the fact that you should respect it's values of its time, if that makes any sense. |
May 12, 2012 3:53 PM
#87
Reading a lot of these responses has definitely made me enjoy the movie much more with it filling in the pieces I was confused on. Also, I don't know how people can say the animation is bad! This movie came out in 1988 and has some of the best animation I have ever seen. The ending was a definite mind fuck though, would love to read more of peoples opinions on it. Someone posted how they saw this movie at a younger age and then saw it again at an older age... I definitely did the same thing and I remembered I liked the movie but didnt really understand much of it. Rewatching it now really puts things into perspective considering now I guess im much older and wiser. |
May 12, 2012 4:08 PM
#88
it is a good movie... good story and good plot very interesting i'd rewatch it with pleasure |
May 15, 2012 3:48 AM
#89
Jensofthedesert said: They didn't like the film?! Then they didn't understand it! Nice logic. |
The legal age of consent in Japan is 13, so shota is totally legal in Japan. In some western countries shota might be considered child porn. |
Jun 6, 2012 11:28 PM
#90
Just watched this movie today. Have to admit for all the acclaim it gets its not what i expected. Yes the animation is amazing, characters are well developed and interesting but for the life of me I couldn't understand the plot. I am a huge Sci-Fi fan and have seen countless strange Sci-Fi movies but this one in my opinion probably has one of the strangest plots ever. I liked the first half of the movie but it completely lost me after Tetsuno found Akira. Can't say I'll ever watch this again, its an OK movie with amazing animation. Compared to Ghost in the Shell which has almost as big a reputation, I think Akira is over-rated. |
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