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Sep 2, 2011 12:48 PM
#61
SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. |
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Sep 2, 2011 1:00 PM
#62
FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. What male body parts can be damaged beyond repair and require a full body sex change? sure his dick and testicals may be crushed but it doesnt require a full body change. What anime has someone turn into a car? Yeah I guess about the Utena element but still, why would he turn into a girl what is there to gain from such a radical change? change in body will not change personality or attitude, unless female hormones are given to him and that wont kick in for a long time and won't cause much of a change. And yeah I get that but there is a difference between getting a sex change for being hit by a car and a scene which was made clearly to show a tense situation. though strangely enough I don't mind your theory.... lol |
Sep 2, 2011 1:09 PM
#63
Lol Ringo is such an amusing crazy girl. Drugging the cake and planning a rape. Hahahaha! Maybe is because i can't take the anime seriously or don't care about that teacher guy but i find this incidents kind of funny. Lot's of nice Ringo fanservice too. Tragic ending there. Lets see if her feeling gratitude or even guild will resold in her noticing the guy that was by her side until now. |
Sep 2, 2011 1:37 PM
#64
SkyHigh said: The anime where he turns one of the characters into a car is the Utena movie, Adolescence Apocalypse.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. What male body parts can be damaged beyond repair and require a full body sex change? sure his dick and testicals may be crushed but it doesnt require a full body change. What anime has someone turn into a car? Yeah I guess about the Utena element but still, why would he turn into a girl what is there to gain from such a radical change? change in body will not change personality or attitude, unless female hormones are given to him and that wont kick in for a long time and won't cause much of a change. And yeah I get that but there is a difference between getting a sex change for being hit by a car and a scene which was made clearly to show a tense situation. though strangely enough I don't mind your theory.... lol The director has also cosplayed as Sailor Mars in the past, and this is a guy we are talking about. He's just really into gender-bending and that kind of thing, which one of the reasons I'm expecting some form of sex change. Not to mention about those two fictional characters in the ED and the resemblance that the two brothers have to them. Shouma (and later Kanba by extension) could end up in some live-action production as those characters, with them playing the main characters. |
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Sep 2, 2011 1:43 PM
#65
SkyHigh said: I like this idea. May even be Momoka died saving her like this too.I think there is more significance than mere affection and shock causing her to make that expression, perhaps something to do with Momoka, she may have experienced something similar or witnessed death before (Momoka) which would obviously make her panic. |
Sep 2, 2011 1:59 PM
#66
FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: The anime where he turns one of the characters into a car is the Utena movie, Adolescence Apocalypse.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. What male body parts can be damaged beyond repair and require a full body sex change? sure his dick and testicals may be crushed but it doesnt require a full body change. What anime has someone turn into a car? Yeah I guess about the Utena element but still, why would he turn into a girl what is there to gain from such a radical change? change in body will not change personality or attitude, unless female hormones are given to him and that wont kick in for a long time and won't cause much of a change. And yeah I get that but there is a difference between getting a sex change for being hit by a car and a scene which was made clearly to show a tense situation. though strangely enough I don't mind your theory.... lol The director has also cosplayed as Sailor Mars in the past, and this is a guy we are talking about. He's just really into gender-bending and that kind of thing, which one of the reasons I'm expecting some form of sex change. Not to mention about those two fictional characters in the ED and the resemblance that the two brothers have to them. Shouma (and later Kanba by extension) could end up in some live-action production as those characters, with them playing the main characters. I will admit I am a fan of gender bender anime, but still I fail to see how it will enhance the plot, seriously there would be no change from what I've seen and who knows about the ED, but you do realise this is an anime, all the characters are fictional :P Besides I still fail to see how a car incident would cause a sex change, but you are free to believe what you want, besides if this crack theory is true I doubt Kanba would also change, he's just too manly :P |
Sep 2, 2011 2:22 PM
#67
SkyHigh said: Well, I never said that was actually going to happen, nor did I say that it would improve the anime. I am merely stating it as a possibility.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: The anime where he turns one of the characters into a car is the Utena movie, Adolescence Apocalypse.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. What male body parts can be damaged beyond repair and require a full body sex change? sure his dick and testicals may be crushed but it doesnt require a full body change. What anime has someone turn into a car? Yeah I guess about the Utena element but still, why would he turn into a girl what is there to gain from such a radical change? change in body will not change personality or attitude, unless female hormones are given to him and that wont kick in for a long time and won't cause much of a change. And yeah I get that but there is a difference between getting a sex change for being hit by a car and a scene which was made clearly to show a tense situation. though strangely enough I don't mind your theory.... lol The director has also cosplayed as Sailor Mars in the past, and this is a guy we are talking about. He's just really into gender-bending and that kind of thing, which one of the reasons I'm expecting some form of sex change. Not to mention about those two fictional characters in the ED and the resemblance that the two brothers have to them. Shouma (and later Kanba by extension) could end up in some live-action production as those characters, with them playing the main characters. I will admit I am a fan of gender bender anime, but still I fail to see how it will enhance the plot, seriously there would be no change from what I've seen and who knows about the ED, but you do realise this is an anime, all the characters are fictional :P Besides I still fail to see how a car incident would cause a sex change, but you are free to believe what you want, besides if this crack theory is true I doubt Kanba would also change, he's just too manly :P Besides, there are other ways to incorporate gender bender, with Shouma getting his own penguin hat and survival strategy transformation (or sharing Himari's) being one of those ways. That means he dies, of course, but is brought back to life by "The Princess of the Sapphire" or whatever they decide to call Shouma's penguin form if they go down that route. |
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Sep 2, 2011 2:35 PM
#68
FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: Well, I never said that was actually going to happen, nor did I say that it would improve the anime. I am merely stating it as a possibility.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: The anime where he turns one of the characters into a car is the Utena movie, Adolescence Apocalypse.FOE-tan said: SkyHigh said: This director has turned people into cars before.FOE-tan said: The one who tore Ringo's dairy was not Kanba. The proof is underneath the spoiler. That looks like a girl's body to me, so it was mostly likely Masako who was riding that bike. Also, I'm going to call this one now. Shouma will survive, but he will require a sex change operation in order to do so. are you being serious, a sex change? why would a sex change save the life of someone hit by a freaking car? it's actually an intruiging theory and I wouldn't be massively against it I guess, but It's unrealstic and destroys Ringo x Shouma which is nooooooo. Do you think this because of his androgynous features? Also, I don't think that Shouma becoming a girl would destroy Shouma x Ringo. You would realzie that if you watched Utena. And what's realistic about Kanba clinging onto a truck with his bare hands for at least one full minute to get the penguin hat again? Or most of the other stuff (relationships aside) in this show, for that matter? Anyway, I'm thinking that the crash may have damaged ...certain body parts of Shouma's beyond repair, hence the need for a sex change. What male body parts can be damaged beyond repair and require a full body sex change? sure his dick and testicals may be crushed but it doesnt require a full body change. What anime has someone turn into a car? Yeah I guess about the Utena element but still, why would he turn into a girl what is there to gain from such a radical change? change in body will not change personality or attitude, unless female hormones are given to him and that wont kick in for a long time and won't cause much of a change. And yeah I get that but there is a difference between getting a sex change for being hit by a car and a scene which was made clearly to show a tense situation. though strangely enough I don't mind your theory.... lol The director has also cosplayed as Sailor Mars in the past, and this is a guy we are talking about. He's just really into gender-bending and that kind of thing, which one of the reasons I'm expecting some form of sex change. Not to mention about those two fictional characters in the ED and the resemblance that the two brothers have to them. Shouma (and later Kanba by extension) could end up in some live-action production as those characters, with them playing the main characters. I will admit I am a fan of gender bender anime, but still I fail to see how it will enhance the plot, seriously there would be no change from what I've seen and who knows about the ED, but you do realise this is an anime, all the characters are fictional :P Besides I still fail to see how a car incident would cause a sex change, but you are free to believe what you want, besides if this crack theory is true I doubt Kanba would also change, he's just too manly :P Besides, there are other ways to incorporate gender bender, with Shouma getting his own penguin hat and survival strategy transformation (or sharing Himari's) being one of those ways. That means he dies, of course, but is brought back to life by "The Princess of the Sapphire" or whatever they decide to call Shouma's penguin form if they go down that route. Hmm okay.... btw have you checked the ED again, I think those other girls next to Himari may just be pallete swapped versions of herself with different hair accessories and styles. Well if he did die it wouldn't be permanent, I mean I just don't see it, it's too early to kill him off if they planned it that way xD |
Sep 2, 2011 3:14 PM
#69
shi just got real....anyone else missed the "survival strategy"? |
"....i am the villain in this story" |
Sep 2, 2011 4:03 PM
#70
amginex said: noticed its absense at the end of the episode, after that i missed it a little :|shi just got real....anyone else missed the "survival strategy"? |
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Sep 2, 2011 4:04 PM
#71
this series getting worse and worse after each episode....its a shame, it looked so good....:((( |
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Sep 2, 2011 4:12 PM
#72
LasDen said: points of viewthis series getting worse and worse after each episode....its a shame, it looked so good....:((( if one can put himself in the drama and minds of the characters it's actually pretty interesting, i think sure there is still a lot of potential it should be showed, but hopefully 16 episodes will be enouth (but the pace should get a bit faster for that) |
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Sep 2, 2011 4:31 PM
#73
Shouma is a gift from heaven. KaitoDash said: I thought Ringo was born after Momoka's death? Or am I confusing fan speculation for reality?SkyHigh said: I like this idea. May even be Momoka died saving her like this too.I think there is more significance than mere affection and shock causing her to make that expression, perhaps something to do with Momoka, she may have experienced something similar or witnessed death before (Momoka) which would obviously make her panic. |
Sep 2, 2011 5:08 PM
#74
Wow, so many F-bombs being dropped this episode. Seriously, though, this episode reminds me of episode 4. That incident with an unknown female culprit acting with knowlege of the contents of Ringo's Diary. Episode 5 proved that Natsume was somehow involved with the incident, because she immediately took steps to silence the victim. But her direct approach determining whether the victim saw her attacker would seem a bit stupid if she were actually the culprit herself. And we still don't know who filled in for Tabuki in the first part of the episode. I think that all three must be the same person. The only reasonable one to suspect at this point is: Anyway, Ringo's father's new family's portrayal is an obvious reference to the Moe Eel back in episode 6: windy said: That's probably my own speculation. Frankly, I'm still not sure whether Ringo was born first or Momoka died first.I thought Ringo was born after Momoka's death? Or am I confusing fan speculation for reality? |
Sep 2, 2011 5:17 PM
#75
Weirdest episode yet? Weirdest episode yet |
Sep 2, 2011 5:33 PM
#76
This shit pissed me off it should been the crazy bitch who got hit by a car NOT shouma! |
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Sep 2, 2011 5:33 PM
#77
SkyHigh said: What anime has someone turn into a car? The Utena movie had that concept. Anyways, another bizarre episode. Ringo is even more crazy and I am so surprised by her confidence to win Tabuki, which it seems impossible. And I think too, that it was Masako who torn the diary. She is the only one who goes against. And if Shouma gender-bender, it will be hilarious. |
Sep 2, 2011 5:35 PM
#78
This is turning into my favorite. Great plot and pacing. Looking forward to next episode. |
Sep 2, 2011 5:47 PM
#79
Ringo is fucking insane! I wonder what would happen if Ringo really does get hit by a car. And who was that person on the motorcycle that ripped the diary? |
Sep 2, 2011 6:15 PM
#80
Could not find an op with animation on youtube so i recorded my own http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_hlNK7HxxY |
Sep 2, 2011 6:51 PM
#81
Sep 2, 2011 6:51 PM
#82
Any1 else notice the egg on the couch after they got druged? |
Sep 2, 2011 7:53 PM
#83
Another epic episodeXD Jeez, Ringo is creepy, but definitely her Cowboy delusion was so awesome XD I think this is heading for ShoumaxRingo. Next episode finally some drama, lol. I bet Ringo and Kanba will appear crying. Shoumaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, i love youuuuuu, dont die! (and dont get possessed by a penguin hat too, please). I hope Shouma recovers fast because he is my fav. T_T |
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Sep 2, 2011 8:21 PM
#84
+10 to all the shenanigans. |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
Sep 2, 2011 8:51 PM
#85
best epoisode so far and wtf ringo xD anyway her eye was kinda freaky espicially at 15:24 where she is dragging the body |
Sep 2, 2011 9:04 PM
#86
Alright, really getting sick of the Ringo shit. I get it, she's insane. I really, really get it; since her increased shenanigans screen time has been at the cost of Himari and Kanba. It would be cool if we could get more than 3 minutes of them in an episode versus the countless minutes of Ringo, thanks. Also hoping Ikuhara trolls the RingoxShouma pairing 'cause I just cannot get into it at ALL. I have faith in MPD to redeem itself in the second half, but I am admittedly getting bored with its latest episodes. It's still my #3 favourite currently airing, it still has interesting characters and plot, awesome visuals and music; I just need to vent. I still like it a lot. I just can't wait to move beyond the Ringo stuff and focus on something ELSE -- Kanba and Himari, heyoooo. Good cliffhanger, though. Helps me look more forward to the next episode! |
Sep 2, 2011 9:57 PM
#87
Kanba and Himari's little screen time was so good! Himari was adorable as ever...I miss them in the latest episodes Ringo made me laugh with the cowboy fantasy, but during the episode it was so like..creepy. I wonder about the biker, but I'm pretty sure that is Natsume. I also wonder what does the M stands for in her Project. And Shouma was great in this episode. Hope he's alright! I love this show, is so Fabulous Max. |
Sep 2, 2011 10:02 PM
#88
SkyHigh said: We don't know if she saw her dead or not but we do know she was with her a lot so when the incident happened she may have been there. There is more chance of that. She really looked like she may have been clingy to her sister, especially with the picture she had. She respected her father and sister most, which is strange because I want to know why her mother is not. Agree with your view of Ringo experiencing dead. It may have been like that of the many possibilities you wrote.Yumekichi11 said: SkyHigh said: I see, well we hope she does. We want this whole arc done soon.Yumekichi11 said: I think I mention this slightly, in regards to knock some sense into her, by saying his words hit home and that this event will probably snap her out of her crazyness once she gets over some depression which will probably follow.SkyHigh said: Well SHOCK was part of the factoring among the others of her surprised state and yes she was still broken at that time indeed. Guilt? I did not see it in her that way yet. Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret. I do believe that Shouma did knock some sense into her but I think his sacrifice is what made Ringo realize them. What do you think? SkyHigh said: YES! I come back to reality due to her illusionary thinking being premordial in her actions. Indeed she always shut herself in in a disbelief system.I believe Shouma's 'sacrifice' is what really drilled the message in, because before she probably was able to delude herself into thinking "this guy hates me, just trying to upset me, he's the crazy one" or how she may have reacted to his words originally, but once he proves that he doesn't hate her or at least proves that he wouldn't want harm to come to her regardless of how he feels towards her she wouldn't be able to deny his words, thus the sacrifice was necessary. SkyHigh said: Interesting so you theorizing that Ringo indeed saw her sister die in front her and had the same reaction of today as she had which means that a shift from Momoka towards Shouma may have a mental impact and change it? That would be good although I think that she should not forget Momoka. If she can be gone and be replaced by Shouma so much the better to dumb that shit ass teacher. TBH I love to insult him now because he screwed up Ringo's life! RAGE! Now I feel the built up! Because of that teacher and his involement he made Ringo into a crazy btich as some woudl say. The reason I say guilt is just a theory, I believe there may be more than one reason why she is so obssessed with becoming Momoka, or why she would try to hard to become her, not just to re-unite her family, I think she may have accidently attributed towards her death or at least she has made herself believe this, which would obviously mean that if she saw someone 'die' in front of her she would be overcome with grief, shock and guilt, of course this is just a theory. This has got to stop and this teacher out of the picture. I would have liked to have a double kill but it won't happen so I am hpong Natsume does something. Still that teacher screwed x days x life time. Making poor Ringo be so crazy of him to go under hishouse and all. *Shakes head* SkyHigh said: I also get what your a saying and TBH am pleased to have started a discussion with you. There is sense in what your saying though and I understand what you're getting at, but I think there is something more, I mean sure someone would be surprised and shocked but those eyes looked strangely similar to the eyes I saw in a anime where someone died because of the character and they were overcome with grief/guilt, don't ask me for the anime I really cannot remember. We hope that Ringo will become more normal and fuck the teacher. I am hoping for a lovely Shouma x Ringo in the future where Ringo may be an amazing ally for Shouma and his family. Having gone out of the teacher arc and learning the lessons from there. I possibly would love to have a twist where the teacher reveals that Ringo's sister was killed by him or Yuri and it's a plot! Ringo taking revenge on him and Yuri. Something like that would be fun to move up. SkyHigh said: Yes it's possible. That talk of visiting her sister while it was Ringo birthday, there could have been a mental mix up indeed.Another reason why she could believe this is the fact that her parents argued, and her name was brought up, which since she was so young could have influenced her into believing such things. SkyHigh said: I was leaning more towards the fact that he did jack shit to notice her around him as a love interest nor anything to even notice her doing all this stuff to him nor enough smart to notice some kind of love around Ringo towards him. In that he screwed her life by being totally ignorant towards her. He may be a flake but he should not be stupid. I think he screwed her life by being ignorant is my point.He didnt screw her life up actually, his situation only amplified what she wanted, which was to make everyone happy and thus become Momoka, her parents are to blame as well for arguing, also I don't think Tabuki really wanted Ringo to sleep under his house, I mean I don't think he is clincally insane or creepy. SkyHigh said: Exactly! Ringo's not scared of the big bad hat nor of the penguins considering how she sat on the last one in last episode.I do think Ringo would be a good ally, because her personality shows strength and determination, I mean she is the only person to stand up to the ALMIGHTY HAT, I think that she would be a useful asset to them, I have also been wanting Shouma x Ringo from the start, ever since Shouma saw her walk past, because I thought this is probably the default pairing. SkyHigh said: Exactly! Yuri could be a problem in all this and the root of Momoka's death. She has the money therefore some power to hire someone to get rid of Momoka.Nah I dont think Tabuki was involved in Momoka's death or caused it anyways, well not on purpose, because of his depression, but Yuri may have who knows, perhaps she has had stalker tendencies or obssessive tendencies for Tabuki for a long time, I mean remember her attitude shift in the park episode when it was just her and Ringo :P |
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Sep 2, 2011 10:23 PM
#89
Yumekichi11 said: You got it wrong, she was born before Momoka's death. There is a picture of her with Momoka and her father. It means she was born before her death. Does that make sense? No, actually you have it wrong. There is no such picture. I think you're referring to the picture of Ringo, her mother, and her father; not Momoka. The most we've seen of her is a shadow. In episode 6 in the flashback when Ringo is 4 years old, they mention promising 5 years ago to take care of Ringo like she was Momoko, or something to that effect. Momoka was pretty young when she died if she was the same age as Tabuki who was around 18 when Ringo was 11. |
Sep 2, 2011 11:38 PM
#90
S_R said: Yeah you are right, mind screwed me over or should I say memory. Ringo is only seen with her parents. So I am assuming all this happened when Ringo was born or one year later. Because it was mentioned that Momoka's death falls within Ringo's birthday and I am pretty sure about that one.Yumekichi11 said: You got it wrong, she was born before Momoka's death. There is a picture of her with Momoka and her father. It means she was born before her death. Does that make sense? No, actually you have it wrong. There is no such picture. I think you're referring to the picture of Ringo, her mother, and her father; not Momoka. The most we've seen of her is a shadow. |
Sep 3, 2011 12:20 AM
#91
wow that was quite an episode o_O the fabulous max, the drugs, THE WEIRD LOOKING CAKE O_O, the pseudo rape, the dolls, the cowboys, and the car crash .___. seriously shouma why would you eat a weird looking cake like that, in fact a curry rice shaped cake is just plain weird LOL anyways getting to the main point, i wonder if Natsume and Yuri are working together to foil Ringo's plans o_o my mind is too full to make anymore speculations @_@ so ill just leave it at that >_> that sex change uhh theory is interesting, ive been wondering how the other two girls in the ending song look like Shouma and Kanba; it sounds awfully bizzare if it turns out Shouma really does need a sex change but hey anything can happen i guess lol maybe they're just metaphorical representation? |
Sep 3, 2011 12:42 AM
#92
HiyuuT said: You got me thinking it could be a price form in exchange for the hat to revive Shouma or heal him so that he lives.that sex change uhh theory is interesting, ive been wondering how the other two girls in the ending song look like Shouma and Kanba; it sounds awfully bizzare if it turns out Shouma really does need a sex change but hey anything can happen i guess lol maybe they're just metaphorical representation? |
Sep 3, 2011 12:59 AM
#93
Yumekichi11 said: HiyuuT said: You got me thinking it could be a price form in exchange for the hat to revive Shouma or heal him so that he lives.that sex change uhh theory is interesting, ive been wondering how the other two girls in the ending song look like Shouma and Kanba; it sounds awfully bizzare if it turns out Shouma really does need a sex change but hey anything can happen i guess lol maybe they're just metaphorical representation? that actually makes a whole lot more sense than a sex change operation, the question is if he needs to directly wear the hat or if the himari-hat can somehow heal him then again what if he undergoes a sex change operation because the almighty penguin hat only works on girls O_O yea okay ill stop there with the weird imaginations LOL |
Sep 3, 2011 1:11 AM
#94
HiyuuT said: Or maybe they're already immortal...Yumekichi11 said: that actually makes a whole lot more sense than a sex change operation, the question is if he needs to directly wear the hat or if the himari-hat can somehow heal him HiyuuT said: You got me thinking it could be a price form in exchange for the hat to revive Shouma or heal him so that he lives.that sex change uhh theory is interesting, ive been wondering how the other two girls in the ending song look like Shouma and Kanba; it sounds awfully bizzare if it turns out Shouma really does need a sex change but hey anything can happen i guess lol maybe they're just metaphorical representation? then again what if he undergoes a sex change operation because the almighty penguin hat only works on girls O_O yea okay ill stop there with the weird imaginations LOL and the penguins are their soulgems. |
Sep 3, 2011 1:30 AM
#95
HiyuuT said: I think that the hat will heal him and he will be under its command. Most likely Himari will be the medium once again. He may become a girl when he in Survival Mode World and be normal back in the real world but regardless it will be a price to pay.Yumekichi11 said: HiyuuT said: You got me thinking it could be a price form in exchange for the hat to revive Shouma or heal him so that he lives.that sex change uhh theory is interesting, ive been wondering how the other two girls in the ending song look like Shouma and Kanba; it sounds awfully bizzare if it turns out Shouma really does need a sex change but hey anything can happen i guess lol maybe they're just metaphorical representation? that actually makes a whole lot more sense than a sex change operation, the question is if he needs to directly wear the hat or if the himari-hat can somehow heal him then again what if he undergoes a sex change operation because the almighty penguin hat only works on girls O_O yea okay ill stop there with the weird imaginations LOL And yes it may be the hat only likes girls like the MODs in Kampfer anime series whom only choose girls to fight. |
Sep 3, 2011 1:38 AM
#96
Yumekichi11 said: SkyHigh said: We don't know if she saw her dead or not but we do know she was with her a lot so when the incident happened she may have been there. There is more chance of that. She really looked like she may have been clingy to her sister, especially with the picture she had. She respected her father and sister most, which is strange because I want to know why her mother is not. Agree with your view of Ringo experiencing dead. It may have been like that of the many possibilities you wrote.Yumekichi11 said: SkyHigh said: I see, well we hope she does. We want this whole arc done soon.Yumekichi11 said: I think I mention this slightly, in regards to knock some sense into her, by saying his words hit home and that this event will probably snap her out of her crazyness once she gets over some depression which will probably follow.SkyHigh said: Well SHOCK was part of the factoring among the others of her surprised state and yes she was still broken at that time indeed. Guilt? I did not see it in her that way yet. Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret. I do believe that Shouma did knock some sense into her but I think his sacrifice is what made Ringo realize them. What do you think? SkyHigh said: YES! I come back to reality due to her illusionary thinking being premordial in her actions. Indeed she always shut herself in in a disbelief system.I believe Shouma's 'sacrifice' is what really drilled the message in, because before she probably was able to delude herself into thinking "this guy hates me, just trying to upset me, he's the crazy one" or how she may have reacted to his words originally, but once he proves that he doesn't hate her or at least proves that he wouldn't want harm to come to her regardless of how he feels towards her she wouldn't be able to deny his words, thus the sacrifice was necessary. SkyHigh said: Interesting so you theorizing that Ringo indeed saw her sister die in front her and had the same reaction of today as she had which means that a shift from Momoka towards Shouma may have a mental impact and change it? That would be good although I think that she should not forget Momoka. If she can be gone and be replaced by Shouma so much the better to dumb that shit ass teacher. TBH I love to insult him now because he screwed up Ringo's life! RAGE! Now I feel the built up! Because of that teacher and his involement he made Ringo into a crazy btich as some woudl say. The reason I say guilt is just a theory, I believe there may be more than one reason why she is so obssessed with becoming Momoka, or why she would try to hard to become her, not just to re-unite her family, I think she may have accidently attributed towards her death or at least she has made herself believe this, which would obviously mean that if she saw someone 'die' in front of her she would be overcome with grief, shock and guilt, of course this is just a theory. This has got to stop and this teacher out of the picture. I would have liked to have a double kill but it won't happen so I am hpong Natsume does something. Still that teacher screwed x days x life time. Making poor Ringo be so crazy of him to go under hishouse and all. *Shakes head* SkyHigh said: I also get what your a saying and TBH am pleased to have started a discussion with you. There is sense in what your saying though and I understand what you're getting at, but I think there is something more, I mean sure someone would be surprised and shocked but those eyes looked strangely similar to the eyes I saw in a anime where someone died because of the character and they were overcome with grief/guilt, don't ask me for the anime I really cannot remember. We hope that Ringo will become more normal and fuck the teacher. I am hoping for a lovely Shouma x Ringo in the future where Ringo may be an amazing ally for Shouma and his family. Having gone out of the teacher arc and learning the lessons from there. I possibly would love to have a twist where the teacher reveals that Ringo's sister was killed by him or Yuri and it's a plot! Ringo taking revenge on him and Yuri. Something like that would be fun to move up. SkyHigh said: Yes it's possible. That talk of visiting her sister while it was Ringo birthday, there could have been a mental mix up indeed.Another reason why she could believe this is the fact that her parents argued, and her name was brought up, which since she was so young could have influenced her into believing such things. SkyHigh said: I was leaning more towards the fact that he did jack shit to notice her around him as a love interest nor anything to even notice her doing all this stuff to him nor enough smart to notice some kind of love around Ringo towards him. In that he screwed her life by being totally ignorant towards her. He may be a flake but he should not be stupid. I think he screwed her life by being ignorant is my point.He didnt screw her life up actually, his situation only amplified what she wanted, which was to make everyone happy and thus become Momoka, her parents are to blame as well for arguing, also I don't think Tabuki really wanted Ringo to sleep under his house, I mean I don't think he is clincally insane or creepy. SkyHigh said: Exactly! Ringo's not scared of the big bad hat nor of the penguins considering how she sat on the last one in last episode.I do think Ringo would be a good ally, because her personality shows strength and determination, I mean she is the only person to stand up to the ALMIGHTY HAT, I think that she would be a useful asset to them, I have also been wanting Shouma x Ringo from the start, ever since Shouma saw her walk past, because I thought this is probably the default pairing. SkyHigh said: Exactly! Yuri could be a problem in all this and the root of Momoka's death. She has the money therefore some power to hire someone to get rid of Momoka.Nah I dont think Tabuki was involved in Momoka's death or caused it anyways, well not on purpose, because of his depression, but Yuri may have who knows, perhaps she has had stalker tendencies or obssessive tendencies for Tabuki for a long time, I mean remember her attitude shift in the park episode when it was just her and Ringo :P First of all I'll say it's nice to have such a long discussion over something, rarely happens for me in regards to anime lol. I do believe Ringo at least saw her dead body, because that would still invoke memories of seeing a body lying lifelessly which would bring back shock to Ringo especially if she witnesses it again (Shouma). I think the reason Tabuki never noticed is the clear age gap, I mean I have a similar experience, I've known this person since I was like 9 and she was 3 at the time, and she is still clingy to me now I'm 18, she's 12 now, Ringo has the same age gap I think, anyways whilst the ages don't add up completely I understand Tabuki's viewpoint even if he did realise her feelings, he would number one not want to be a pedophile, and number two potentially see her as a little sister, it's not bad ignorance, it's for the best of all of them. I think Yuri could have done something but I think she has been into Tabuki longer than we know, maybe since kids, perhaps her confidence that no-one can beat her stems from the fact that she knows she can get rid of rivals easily, either way I don't see Yuri as completely innocent, but at the same time I don't really want to see her as evil. Question what do you think about the Opening of the anime where you see Ringo turn into flames, I've been wondering what significance that holds... Oh and on the other subject about the Sex change thing which i've talked about as well, your idea about MOD's from Kampfer don't you think it's going a bit far, I think that more than one Survival Strategy would be going too far, though gender bender may be fun if it brings a little more comedy, I just don't want to see the entire cast changed into girls lol. |
Sep 3, 2011 1:50 AM
#97
DrHouse said: I read it here but it has a question mark after it so ¯\(°_o)/¯windy said: That's probably my own speculation. Frankly, I'm still not sure whether Ringo was born first or Momoka died first.I thought Ringo was born after Momoka's death? Or am I confusing fan speculation for reality? |
Sep 3, 2011 2:14 AM
#98
Sep 3, 2011 2:50 AM
#99
THISSS BITTCHH!!!!! EHRYHNBJTUGM7INMJ7KN Okay Ringo, you crazy ass bitch you have taken it waaay too far!! She was like 10 seconds away from raping Tabuki, WHILE UNCONSCIOUS! YOU KNOCKED HIM UNCONSCIOUS!!!D8 The whole time I just wanted to fucking slap her; I could not agree more with Shouma when he called her the craziest bitch he'd ever met. She deserved getting her book ripped, I'm just SOOOO PIISSEDDDDD she had to put Shou in danger! OH BITCH I SWEAR IF YOU KILL MY FAVORITE CHARACTER I WILL BE SO DAMN ANGRY/// Don't pull a Blood-C on us please. DrHouse said: Or maybe they're already immortal... and the penguins are their soulgems. I lol'd. |
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Sep 3, 2011 3:22 AM
#100
SkyHigh said: Pirokinesis power given by the Penguins? Now that would be one Fantastic Four add on except it's a human torch female version. Well if she could fly and be like Human Torch then even Natsume can't do jack shit, well even normal Pirokinesis can burn those balls of hers.Question what do you think about the Opening of the anime where you see Ringo turn into flames, I've been wondering what significance that holds... SkyHigh said: No and don't you think you should think maybe based on the chicken with the eggs?Oh and on the other subject about the Sex change thing which I’ve talked about as well, your idea about MOD's from Kampfer don't you think it's going a bit far, SkyHigh said: I think it would be an amazing feature itself to see more survival Strategy but most of all other factions that are not Penguins. I think that more than one Survival Strategy would be going too far, though gender bender may be fun if it brings a little more comedy, I just don't want to see the entire cast changed into girls lol. I had this sudden idea that this show might be about Super High Beings being cute little furies like Penguins and wage war between themselves with the only human in it and able to see them are in fact those who are on their side, which does make sense since Ringo never saw any of those penguins,. Regardless it would be interesting to see if it goes in that way. |
Sep 3, 2011 3:30 AM
#101
Yumekichi11 said: SkyHigh said: Pirokinesis power given by the Penguins? Now that would be one Fantastic Four add on except it's a human torch female version. Well if she could fly and be like Human Torch then even Natsume can't do jack shit, well even normal Pirokinesis can burn those balls of hers.Question what do you think about the Opening of the anime where you see Ringo turn into flames, I've been wondering what significance that holds... SkyHigh said: No and don't you think you should think maybe based on the chicken with the eggs?Oh and on the other subject about the Sex change thing which I’ve talked about as well, your idea about MOD's from Kampfer don't you think it's going a bit far, SkyHigh said: I think it would be an amazing feature itself to see more survival Strategy but most of all other factions that are not Penguins. I think that more than one Survival Strategy would be going too far, though gender bender may be fun if it brings a little more comedy, I just don't want to see the entire cast changed into girls lol. I had this sudden idea that this show might be about Super High Beings being cute little furies like Penguins and wage war between themselves with the only human in it and able to see them are in fact those who are on their side, which does make sense since Ringo never saw any of those penguins,. Regardless it would be interesting to see if it goes in that way. You really want the cast to change into girls.... I mean I've seen your anime list and you seem to like anime with a higher proportion of girls than guys but still I think it could actually harm the plot, I mean seriously I'd hate to see Kanba become one because well his whole playboy attitude seems to actually have some kind of significance. I actually think there should be only one penguin hat person, because each survival strategy needs a human in it for the bitch hat to mock so she can feel superior, god damn superiority complex :S, but I just can't see it, the sex change thing doesn't seem likely at this moment in time but who knows sighh. Pyrokinesis wouldn't seem likely I think since she actually burned up into flames it could mean something else, I can't think of anything yet but it may be trying to symbolise something. |
Sep 3, 2011 6:42 AM
#102
OH MY GOD! That was one action-packed episode...I see hope in the future with ShoumaxRingo!!!! I just can't sit still for the next episode, I mean, now that Ringo's diary is in shreds and Shouma sacrificed himself to save Ringo (I hope he's still alive...) this will entirely change the plot (I believe). I think now Ringo will snap out of it. If not completely, then by a little because when Shouma told her he was the craziest bitch he had ever met, it really stuck to her, lol. I can't help but appreciate the efforts Shouma went through to save his sister, but in a way he's not only there to save his sister, but by trying to help Ringo and learning more about her...he has the power to change Ringo too. Even though every time Shouma's asked if he's falling in love with her and he kind of just says,"NO WAY!" I think that by the two falling in love with each other, it can seriously make Ringo turn into a different person. Although, I have absolutely no clue what that penguin hat girl will say now that the "penguin drum" is "broken". |
Sep 3, 2011 6:57 AM
#103
EarlCiel said: OH MY GOD! That was one action-packed episode...I see hope in the future with ShoumaxRingo!!!! I just can't sit still for the next episode, I mean, now that Ringo's diary is in shreds and Shouma sacrificed himself to save Ringo (I hope he's still alive...) this will entirely change the plot (I believe). I think now Ringo will snap out of it. If not completely, then by a little because when Shouma told her he was the craziest bitch he had ever met, it really stuck to her, lol. I can't help but appreciate the efforts Shouma went through to save his sister, but in a way he's not only there to save his sister, but by trying to help Ringo and learning more about her...he has the power to change Ringo too. Even though every time Shouma's asked if he's falling in love with her and he kind of just says,"NO WAY!" I think that by the two falling in love with each other, it can seriously make Ringo turn into a different person. Although, I have absolutely no clue what that penguin hat girl will say now that the "penguin drum" is "broken". Exactly what I think, I believe this is a turning point for Ringo and Shouma, that's if Shouma survives, I believe the denial in this episode highlights that Shouma and Ringo will get together, especially that blush on his face when he denied it. You raise a good question, what the hell will happen now that the Penguindrum has been torn, I wonder if bitch hat will rage or be like "It must not have been the penguindrum!" and then order the boys to do something else, either way I think that hat is going to rage. Aww can't wait for next episode |
Sep 3, 2011 8:41 AM
#104
NOOOOO!!! dont pull a sex change on me, cant have RingoxShouma then T.T |
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Sep 3, 2011 11:56 AM
#106
Sep 3, 2011 2:20 PM
#107
This is indeed the best episode yet. I mean, if this anime is this good right here... it makes you wonder how incredible its ending is going to be. |
Sep 3, 2011 3:16 PM
#108
My reaction throughout the episode was like Screw you, Ringo, I hope someone kills you off. Then at the end I was OHMYGOD SHOUMA WHYYY And a few hours after watching the episode I'm still OHMYGOD SHOUMA WHYYY |
Sep 3, 2011 3:43 PM
#109
I really hope they don't say everything was cool after that hit with the car. He should be in pretty bad shape. Knowing this show he will walk it off. |
Sep 3, 2011 4:08 PM
#110
Ringo is a crazy yandere I like her. xD But at the end of this episode all I could say is WHY SHOUMA WHY! He is my favorite character along with Ringo and Kanba. I doubt he will die though he will probably get up like nothing happened or wind up in the hospital because its way too early to kill him off like that. D8 |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
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