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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- You know, it was bad enough that they inexplicably brought back the ridiculously-named Four, but to kill her off again!? Newtypes just cant catch a break, can they? |
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| It's a ridiculous name, but at least there's a reason behind it (She's the fourth subject at the Murasume Newtype lab), unlike some of the other names in the series. |
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| It may be a ridiculous name for people who talk english, but to the japanese ear, maybe it doesn't sound that ridiculous, maybe you don't know it but, "Quattro" actually means Four in Portuguese, I guess it doesn't sound ridiculous cos you're not hearing a number, you're just hearing a strange name. To the japanese ear Four is just a strange name. I liked her character, this episode was sad. |
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| so goes four again, and it seems char is going to have to own up to being char |
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| Why did they kill of Four again? It was heartwrecking to see how Kamille hugged her at the end... |
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| Man, what a kickass kick the the face by Kamille. And then what a kick to Kamille's face. They bring her back just to kill her again. So not cool. |
Veethorn said: It may be a ridiculous name for people who talk english, but to the japanese ear, maybe it doesn't sound that ridiculous, maybe you don't know it but, "Quattro" actually means Four in Portuguese, I guess it doesn't sound ridiculous cos you're not hearing a number, you're just hearing a strange name. To the japanese ear Four is just a strange name. Yeah, to me even Quattro sounds ridiculous since I can speak spanish (quatro, same pronunciation), but I understand that it might not be so silly to a Japanese. It'd be like someone named "arba’a". Surprise, it means 4 in arabic! |
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| Four? I liked her better when she was called Lalah Sune |
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| Four's death was expected |
| Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. |
| That was pretty good kick Kamille! Jerid just went flying. xD Jerid killed Kamille's mother and nowhe killed Four. Kamille is going to kill him very slowly and painfully if possible. :) |
| That was awesome. Four's death was expected but necessary to start the end of the series. |
| NOOOOOOO FOUR!... again... |
| This episode (and the some of the last) was completely pointless. What's the point of bringing back a character only to kill them again while not adding anything of interest to her character? All this episode did was retread the same old crap they did before AND in MSG. Was it really necessary for Four to become Lalah 2.0 for no reason? If so, why can't this show be about Amuro and Char again? Plus, will this show kill off Jerid already? He's so pathetic that it's embarrassing to watch him. On a good note, we need more people bitch slapping Kamille. Four's "Bitch move" slap was the best scene I've seen in Zeta in a long time. Tralan said: Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. This x2. |
| I like how Jerid keeps on trying to kill Kamille, but never succeeds. xD This time Kamille kicked him off the cliff. Meh, Four's death didn't really touch me. I find it silly how easy it is to infiltrate to a top secret Titan research lab. Just wear a Titan coat and you have a free pass. |
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Tralan said: Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. This x3 Can't understand it for the life of me. |
| Another Tragic episode :( Woo at least they showed Four's naked body :) She's soo beautiful! It seems drugs are suppressing the pain inside her head. Of course the Four character archetype will be used by future Gundam series like Seed's Stella and 00's Louise. Damn Jerid is pissed for not only who lost two lovers(Milla Rira and Mouar), so of course he wants some revenge. To be honest i actually thought they would pull a Gundam Seed Destiny on this one since Seems Four can actually put mental pressure on other Newtypes like Char. So She is a Cyber-Newtype, genetically engineered to surpass real Newtypes. I do not like how they reintroduce Four in the last episode, only to be get killed in the next one. Wtf Tomino-san!?! I do agree that Four became Lalah 2.0. Underdeveloped and killed instantly. Seriously i was hoping they would expand her story, how she grew up and ended with titans. Even Lalah upon first time showing her felt like she was gonna be something special, but get's killed by Amuro out of nowhere. Char warned Kamille about this, but he never listened. Kamille has to learn it the hard way : Seems Amuro feared the worst. History repeats itself. Only thing people can do is to learn it and try not to make it again as possible. And yeah Kamille saying he's gonna call him Char from now on kinda doesn't make any sense. It's not like Char showed him that he's back on his usual self. Oh well i do feel the lost of Four though. Let's hope Kamille actually learns something here and move on forward. Can't wait for the next episode though!! |
Tralan said: Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. This x4. He could've literally said that any other time. Just... Why the fuck now? Also, did Four just fucking die again? And in the exact same trippy, stupid ass manner as a certain underdevelopped Newtype woman from 0079? Good Lord. |
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Tralan said: Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. This x5 In the end Four was just a copy of Lalah... and I now that they will create a clone of Four (Stella)... and from what I've heard there are more like her... Originality is not one of the strong points of this franchise. |
| Four's death was expected,but goddamnit it should've been Fa instead. JGChaves said: Tralan said: This x5Kamille telling Char that he had to own up to being Char seemed to come out of nowhere and make no sense to me. There were plenty of other times where it could have made more sense, but it just felt completely out of place in the final scene. |
| So predictable -_- I would have liked a change on the Lalah's schema, where the NT girl survives. I see everyone complains and says Lalah's case was already not good. So it makes sense I loved this "variation" since I liked the original (from The Origin and movies trilogy). Plus it is interessant for the reactions it triggers in Amuro and Char. Even if it was "childish", "annoying", etc... I am glad Kamille never losed his will to save her. What would the opposite make him look like, seriously? I'm sure he would have been the target of as much criticism. My appreciation of Jerid as a person is even lower than before. His persistence is one of the causes here. "I will be able to see you whenever I want." Oh... how disappointing, she doesn't see the time like Lalah. I was also impressed when I saw this psychic attack on Char. I forgot, but how the hell did Four land away from her robot when only the head was severed? o_o 5/5 theGreenDeath said: I thought Kamille saying he would call him Char was down to the fact that Char took some very pragmatic actions in these fights and encouraged Kamille to actively attack the woman he loved because it was war. Kamille saw that as a betrayal of the "father figure" he'd built Quattro up to be. "This x6" Camille might also see the need of having a big leader like Casval Deikun / Char Aznable in order to stop the war, after he suffered again a human loss. |
Rei_IIIMay 1, 2016 1:55 PM
| A major step forward was, though it seems, I wonder if you truly Four has left us this time, since his possible departure, it was possible. Jerid seems not to want to die, damn! Good episode. |
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| Very good but very sad episode Four :( |
| A lot sure happened in this episode, that ending sure was intense and sad :/ pretty great episode nonetheless! |
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| Man, Jerid has some serious dedication, hunting them down on a snowy mountain with that crutch...just to get kicked in the face. Also this episode is like a Bond movie on speed. |
| I have to ask, why in the blue moon did author bring back Four if she was gonna bite the dust again??? I said this because the first time it was for a good cause (getting MC into space) and this time not only did this decision to bring her back negated her sacrifice it also diminish her as a character because the first time she died she was a better person (decided to move on) the second time she was a broken doll *Sigh* |
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| This episode has some really good moments hidden by how stupid it all was. Jerid was a walking plot device who appeared wherever it was most inconvenient in spite of his injuries. Four has superhuman strength by being able to lift Kamille with one hand, she teleports out of the Psycho Gundam somehow once it lost its head, and even though her gundam was destroyed in a manner that caused no damage to the pilot, she somehow dies of what I'm assuming is a broken heart. Amuro Ray Kill Count: 0 kills this episode 6 kills this war 83 kills total Kamille Bidan Kill Count: 0 Kills this episode 45 Kills total |
| Poor Jerid, Kamille kills both women he's loved and then he gets thrown off a cliff. |
| I don't mind that it was a predictable outcome, but this episode could've been way better. |
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Rei366 said: theGreenDeath said: I thought Kamille saying he would call him Char was down to the fact that Char took some very pragmatic actions in these fights and encouraged Kamille to actively attack the woman he loved because it was war. Kamille saw that as a betrayal of the "father figure" he'd built Quattro up to be. "This x6" Camille might also see the need of having a big leader like Casval Deikun / Char Aznable in order to stop the war, after he suffered again a human loss. This x7 Just.. why now ? Wtf ? |
| Fours death was such a throwback to 0079 MSG. In the original, Amuro killed Lalah, and now in this Jerid kills Kamilles love interest. New types are so unlucky. I feel like all newtypes are going to be met with demise. Char definitely felt Kamilles pain, especially since Char lost his very own New Type love interest in 0079 MSG. |
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| I just saw the muhfuggin tears of time yo ;_____; From my first time watching this several years ago I remembered this episode being super tragic because Kamille throws Jerrid off a cliff. That came and went right before the commercial break and I was like "... Well it'll probably still get worse," and it fucking did Dx Phaetons_Folly said: Four has superhuman strength by being able to lift Kamille with one hand I'm glad somebody else noticed |
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| Holy crap, this show's awful. |
| Kamille should’ve escaped with Four as soon as he found her. Also, how did her body not get badly mangled from that explosion? I feel like her death was avoidable. Kamille is much better in the second half. |
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| LOL of course that titan dumbass would show up again and then he also the one that gets the kill on Four smh well at least now this should be reason enough to finally kill him for good this time cause he is living waaaay to long but over all good ep also looks like Sayla is finally back come next ep finally |
DazeFireOct 7, 2019 9:31 PM
| "one step at a time" |
| I found it kinda weird that they dropped the Four storyline early on just to get back on it now. Especially since they introduced the threat of the remnants of Zeon just a few episodes back. This show's structure is kinda weird but I like it nonetheless |
| Yay, Kamille just sneaked into the base without security and of course he found Four because why not! Maybe his Titan suit has something to do with it. And what next? Ah, a can of Cola. I'd totally behave the same. The profile of Four said that she was born in...0071? So she's 15 now, even younger then Kamille? Oh. When Kamille and Four escaped from Jerid, they had 2 guns, yet when they faced him outside, they had none? And Jerid just didn't shoot almost point blank? Damn I'm so picky. Just when we were told that Four becomes uncontrollable because of the experiments in the lab, she just suddenly "awakens" her powers in the middle of nowhere. Why? Jerid finally killed somebody in battle, and it was Four, and then he just...disappeared. Damn. I didn't really think that the cockpit was inside Psyco Gundam's head. It's usually inside the body. Or was it not a cockpit and Jerid hit some sort of psychic computer that damaged Four's brain so much that she died? Char and Amuro remembered Lalah, how couldn't they? I also remembered her because she's so similar in her fate. Even the post-death magic stuff is the same. I also noticed that in this episode some really weird lighting effects were used (especially during the psychic shenanigans), almost as if they were real. Finally, "Quattro" has no choice but return to being called Char, because Kamille said it. Okay! |
St0rmbladeJun 16, 2020 6:57 AM
| The same mistake. |
| In the moment Jerid reappeared at the base, I knew Four was going to die. I laughed when he was thrown off a cliff lmao. |
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| I'm really torn about this episode. On the one hand, I really like Kamille and Four, so I was excited for them to continue with that plot line. On the other...they didn't do anything with it. Also, Why tf did Kamille say that to Char at the end? x8 At first I thought it was a sign of Kamille losing respect for him, but the very next episode made me realize that wasn't the case (and also solidified me thinking that they brought Four back for no reason) I'm really starting to question why this particular Gundam is so highly praised. |
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