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Aug 30, 2011 11:14 PM

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Bleach Jigokuhen was pretty good. I loved the animation, top-knotch during the battles. Music was pretty good, although some were kinda dull. Chokkaku was awesome though, I got hyped when I heard that playing. xD

Ichigo's hell armour looked weird. The shiny gold touch made it a tad better though. I was expecting Ichigo to have a better 'look' though. Ah well, it had to be linked with hell so I guess the skulls on his armour were necessary. Although, the golden Getsuga Tenshou was pretty cool, reminded me of Naruto's various unnecessary new Rasengans though. XD

Only real major complaint I have is the story revolving around hell, seemed to weak to me. Would've expected a bigger threat than just a mere human who wants to escape from hell. :S Also, is it just me or does Orihime's voice sound very annoying that you have to complain about it? The Orihime X Ichigo bit was quite pleasing though, never really seen much of that happening other than the time Orihime was leaving for Hueco Mundo.

Overall, it was a good movie, and probably my favourite Bleach movie out of the current 4.
Aug 31, 2011 11:02 AM

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I really liked this movie, but his Hell Armor looked kinda weird, as said before.
But where the hell was Kenpachi, you can't make a Bleach Movie without Kenpachi xD

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Aug 31, 2011 8:09 PM

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Did they use some 3D stuff or did they just mess up the drawing at some parts?

The golden armor was stupid. It would have been better if it would have been "normal" colored. Or a different design altogether.

Loved that moment were Yuzu lost her chains and Byakuya was like "wtf? i need to do.. something!" The overall thing was just stupid. Orihime is only limited by her will, if she wants something, or better, if she does not want something, it does not happen. It "unhappens". Why should she accept that Yuzu is dead, even worse, in hell (more or less)?

I can understand Ichigo not giving a damn about how it happend, he's overwhelmed by the fact that he has Yuzu back, but others, like, Byakuya.. i excepted..well, something. If they vanish without them having to do anything, they could have let Orihimes ability work, too, it's not like tthen here would not have been a reason to do some awesome stuff.

The part were the head captain was going "thats all your fault" was annoying. Where where all those captains when Shuren and his guys first attacked the school and kidnapped both Yuzu and Karin? Probably not responsible for it, it was related to hell after all! But then they want to stop Ichigo.

The head captain himself should enter hell, or at least talk to the ones responsible. Surely hell is within jurisdiction of the Soul King, too. They are still souls there, after all. Heck, Soul Society is monitoring it, they have the ability to enforce a return,they do the maintenance of the gate (i don't think the guardian are doing that..) and so on.
Either they have to do something, or the Soul King. Perfect reason to introduce squad zero (unlikely outside the main story, but still..could have given us some corps dealing with hell coming directly from the Soul Kings court, would even explain the Gotei not lifting a finger to help.

Another thing is, someone must have forbidden them to interact with everything hell related, either Yamaji or the Soul King, or someone even higher up, if there is such a thing. So there is a hierachy, and the one on top should have done something about it, even if not directly in control of hell.

It also wasn't explained how they managed to get to the world of the living in the first place, if the guardians are so strong (though they look pretty weak when actually in hell. They looked more impressive before). Might be related to the maintenance they suddenly brought up. Probably Mayuri wanting some new stuff to study)

Ichigo shooting cero after cero in his second hollow stage was nice at first, though it was a bit long. Still, it showed the power he has. They should have let him fight for real, as in, use his sword etc., like he did against Ulquiorra.

Some of the other fights were good, with them kinda taking turns, though i knew how the final fight Rukia had was going to end the moment he captured her. It was so similar to the fight with Aaroniero. Either they planned that all along, or they just had the idea to end it the same way after they had that part.

Overall, the movie was okay, probably my least favorite though. Would have been better if they had used the storyline of the promotional manga, with Szayel and Aaroniero ending up in hell. At least partially, they still could have the overall storyline, but not 20 minutes fighting without hollow form, 20 minutes fighting as hollow, 20 minutes fighting without hollow form, 20 minutes fightings to overcome the hollowfication, 5 seconds with the new form.

Which reminde me of his fight with Aizen. New form, drastically different appearance, new skills, a single attack that takes out the enemy..or not. Both attacks did not kill the enemy, after both attacks someone or something else had to finish the job. He should stick with his hollow form, at least he managed to kill Ulquiorra with it. 1:0:0 when comparing hollow form, final getsuga tenshou and "hell" form.
Sep 3, 2011 6:52 AM

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very nice movie :P liked m´uch more than fade to black xD But ichigo hell armor was weird xD Mugetsu still best looking
Sep 3, 2011 12:35 PM

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That was some interesting quality, the beginning looked really CG'd though. Buuut I really enjoyed the contrast changes in Hell. It looked pretty spiff.

Kokuto was like my favorite character in the movie until the last half though. That was pretty disappointing. I mean really, if he didn't just betray everyone by the end I'm sure Ichigo would've helped him. :U
Sep 3, 2011 8:02 PM

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It was alright, but it mainly focused in Ichi v The bad/fakegood guy. (Don't pay attention to names)
Sep 4, 2011 10:44 AM

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Just finished watching it, and whoa! Very good intro and a sweet ending. This movie satisfied one of my need when watching Bleach, seeing Ichigo in his Vasto Lorde form. Had way much more fight scene than i had hoped for. 8/10
Sep 4, 2011 4:39 PM

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SerenityB3128 said:

What do you mean by Episode 1 ? It's a movie.
Sep 4, 2011 4:55 PM

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... wait what happened to Kubo's memory fetish?
Sep 4, 2011 10:38 PM

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First off, the movie was rushed.
Secondly, the plot was extremely cliche, and I felt as if I had seen it before in one of the earlier episodes in the TV series. To put simply, it felt as if the plot was re-used.
Thirdly, *new* characters popping out of nowhere without proper introductions are a real put-off.
Fourthly, my eardrums are about to burst from the immense number of times Ichigo screamed.
Fifthly, there is no sound explanation as to why Yuzu's chains disintegrated into nothingness.

To sum up my rants and complaints (I still have a lot more up my sleeve), I hated the movie. Period. It reminded me why I dropped the TV series to begin with. :/
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Sep 6, 2011 11:27 AM

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Started good, ended somehow bad. Ichigo's "rampage" just wasn't enough. They could add more fights with hollowform instead just firing beams :S The ending song was good, listening to movie-eds is rare from me (I just skip them expect if there are animation going on)
Oh, and one last thing. Actually when Ichigo was confident that Yuzu is dead and screen went black-up moving, suddenly i just thought the "to be continued" from TV series appears. It always happen when something climatic occurs. :D

Anyway good movie.

Sep 7, 2011 1:45 AM

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Bleach movies need to step up, visuals are getting better but everything else is getting worse.

Kokuto's voice actor basically carried the movie himself, I was waiting for him to randomly say "PUT YA GUNZ ON!". Would have made the movie an automatic 10/10 then. Kokuto betraying everyone...BIG SURPRISE. Could have at least try to not make it like the other dozen betrayal situations this series is known for by now.

The further along the movies the worse the plots seem to be getting in these Bleach movies, this was nearly no better than what you would find off a random Bleach fanfiction site. I was actually moved a little by Memories of Nobody and the Hitsugaya focused one introduced a lot of quality themes that TV series repeatedly abused nowadays.

Movie saving points
- Reanimated Hollow Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra fight
- Kokuto voice actor
- Rukia and tentacles
Sep 7, 2011 2:25 PM

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i really really liked this movie
enjoyed it a lot !
Sep 9, 2011 2:06 PM

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awesomeness throughout the movie, pack with action
FACT: best bleach movie so far

but when i really think about it, going into hell without dying is silly :P
Sep 11, 2011 11:09 AM

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I think it's interesting to set in hell but the whole plot is pretty weak so I'm gonna give it a 3.5/5 !!
Sep 16, 2011 5:32 AM

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The first half was great, starting with Hollow Ichigo Vs Ulquiorra [reanimated with new scenes was epic], it was like when Bleach started with Ichigo offering flowers to the spirits and all, loved that.. The rest was OK, but Shuren Vs Ichigo was dam badass it was very well done and then Ichigo went berserk! Dam that was epic though i wish he have done more than fire Cero's, the moments after Ichigo returned from Hell where he was broken down by Yuzu's condition was well done too, don't see much of that in Bleach :)

I didn't really like that power from "Hell" Ichigo got, kinda lame if you ask me :L

All in all i enjoyed it, the fights, OST, animation was very well done, possibly my favorite Bleach movie.

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Modified by Aozure, Sep 16, 2011 5:37 AM
Sep 17, 2011 6:37 PM

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Really enjoyed watching this movie. The fight scences were a bit rushed but the animation throughout was awesome! Liked the twist on the bleach songs too. And loved seeing the fight scene with Ulquiorra and Ichigo reanimated! Was hoping to see some of the espada who died.. oh well..

Overall, gave this movie a 7/10.
Modified by FeatherLynne, Sep 17, 2011 6:41 PM

Sep 28, 2011 3:47 PM

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Hahaha. ! Loved it.!
Soooo many new ideas for my fanfiction. LoL. ^^
Oct 14, 2011 7:31 PM

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I liked it, easily my favorite Bleach movie. Ichigo was as annoying as always, but Kokuto was awesome. Hell yeah Nakai Kazuya~! I'm a little disappointed that Shuren was just tossed aside though, he was cool too.

Also I couldn't help laughing at Ichigo's wtf face after Kokuto first stabbed him and then asked if he was alright. Now that moment was really well put together haha~
Modified by Monochrome, Oct 14, 2011 7:36 PM
Oct 23, 2011 11:34 PM

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Not bad, Still prefer Diamond Dust Rebellion.

Naked Rukia scene FTW

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Nov 21, 2011 10:42 AM

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For me it's the best Bleach movie I've seen so far. Finally less crappy filler plot and more awesome fights.
Nov 29, 2011 4:25 PM

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Lol, Ichigo going psycho over his sister and not giving a damn about his friends who all got stabbed.
Guess it was a good movie though.
Also liked the Hell Armour. o:
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Nov 30, 2011 12:15 PM

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This movie is a joke. Dumb villains, generic, retarded power up, the usage of dat hollow form (Without giving Kubo the chance to explain the 'logic' behind it). And the first 20 minutes, I though I was watching the first episode.

Not to forget the most obvious and generic -good guy turns out to be bad- plottwist. And it still pains me that the plot in one scentence is "Ichigo has to defeat a bad guy to save his sister".

4 or 5/10 If I were to rate it.
Dec 5, 2011 6:59 AM

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This movie is more emotional compared to previous Bleach movies. Ichigo had to save Yuzu from Hell and cannot use his hollow form carelessly (although in this movie he used it anyway...)

The plot is kinda predictable and they don't even bother to explain anything in the movie. They said Hell is where spirits that commit crimes in the human world and cannot enter Soul Society go, but didn't those type of spirits are the ones that became Hollow?

The battle scene is very good, I enjoyed the battle with the Sinners, especially with the "last boss". Ichigo "Hell Armor Form" is quite cool but I wonder do they have to add that comedy scene at the end of the movie?
Dec 14, 2011 8:49 PM

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I think it was the worst of the bleach movies till now, the animation was excellent, but I think the story lacked potential, I was hoping for the espadas to appear as they were shown in the manga special. It was like kinda rushed, the movie began and in 10 min or so they were in Hell already and there was not much of a fight only those 4 sinners and Kokuto that was obvious an enemy, the battles were pretty good animated and cool (except the battle of Rukia, that was a deja vu :P). The capitan's appeared at the last 30 min and they didn't do much, I like when they get into battles.

It's a 7/10, mostly because of the animation.

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Dec 25, 2011 8:39 PM

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best bleach movie
Jan 13, 2012 9:39 PM

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Diamond Dust Rebellion was a better movie.
I found it strange that Soul Society knew that Renji and Rukia went to Hell but did nothing to stop them/intervene?
Don't they have those special mobile phones that allow instant communication from Soul Society?
Considering how pissed off Yamamoto was when he met Ichigo, stopping them would have been priority number one.
Yamamoto was right to be angry, if the entire world and its population were at risk because of Ichigo's actions, Ichigo should have been executed (considering that Rukia was to be executed for giving Ichigo her powers?).
I guess Soul Society owes Ichigo a lot after all the times he saved their ass.
Jan 22, 2012 3:45 PM

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I enjoyed the movie as a whole, mostly/entirely because of the godlike animation and good soundtrack. The issues I have with it are what I usually have with bleach. The retarded thing of holding back everyones powers. It actually took ichigo 56 minutes to figure out that he knows how to use shunpo and that he, in bankai, is probably one of the top 5 fastest shinigamis that exist. Now why in the name of holy hell would he not use that when trying to save his sisters? Well probably because there wouldn't have been much of a movie if he had used his "usual strength" and owned all of those kidnappers in about 2.5 seconds on his own, 10 minutes in. It was necessary for the movie to happen, but it's still annoying as hell and it ruined quite a bit of the movie for me.

And then we have the main villain who, while being quite cool and all, was just a teeny tiny bit too overpowered. He took rampage-hollow-ichigos-world-ending-blaster-beam head on, and laughed, without even so much as a scratch. The same beam that blew ulqiorra to bits. I mean if he was that powerful then why couldn't he just cut off those damned chains by himself?

Well it's not like bleach goes hand in hand with logic and consistency so if you throw those out the window and don't use your brain for around an hour and a half then it was a completely watchable movie.

/end rant
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Feb 21, 2012 7:39 PM

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That! That is how I see IchiHime... not overly touchy feely overly romantic, but with deep affection for eachother and with special romantic moments every now and then. <<33

Does anyone else realize that whenever Ichi fights and is hurt the right sleeve of his shinigami robes are all that leave of his top?
And I thought the movie was nice, no ridiculously overpowered people, but I was kinda expecting espadas...

It showed Why I don't like Yamamoto... cause seriously, how and where does he get off on blaming Ichii for everything that happened? Last time I checked, Ichi didn't wish for ppl to want to get out of hell and thus kidnap his sisters to get to him.

I also didn't get how Ori couldn't heal Yuzu when her powers are supposed to go against all things and is god-like. She can bring people back to life from their ashes...or reiatsu or whatever.
And liked Byakuya in this :) especially with the tent scene.

Ruri-san said:

The plot is kinda predictable and they don't even bother to explain anything in the movie. They said Hell is where spirits that commit crimes in the human world and cannot enter Soul Society go, but didn't those type of spirits are the ones that became Hollow?

Umm... They kinda explained that in the actual show already. When a person dies, if they have something that keeps them connected to the human world they'll become a hollow if they remain there too long. (those spirits also risk bring eaten by hollows)
Also, the shinigami come to release those spirits to wherever they need to be. The ones that have turned hollow are destroyed so they can go back to the soul society. However if the spirit that was turned into a hollow was a person who committed heinous crimes while alive they get sent to Hell. The people who did nothing wrong in their lifetimes who lingered on earth and turned into hollows: once the only crimes they committed were in there hollow forms, they still get sent to the soul society.
So to sum it up, you had to be a bad HUMAN/LIVING BEING, to get sent there.
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Apr 10, 2012 2:06 PM

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Just got around to watch this. Best movie story-wise? Not. Best movie regarding epic fights? Definitely. It was really action packed, fallowed by awesome choreography and smooth animation. Huge letdown for promoting movie using Ulquirra images. Made me think that the movie will have connection to him or other Hollows. No captains and vice-captains battles also didn't make it any interesting...

The third movie is still my favorite so far.
May 6, 2012 5:54 PM

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How did the chains on yuzu come off?

Orihime's power did not work on saving Yuzu while the chains were still attached. Does that mean her powers are not close to being god like?

And it seemed like hell just willingly gave him power to return that damned soul back to hell. He must have done a crime that is unspeakable.That brings up the question of how there's more to Ichigo than just the convincing talk he give most of the time.
Jul 18, 2012 8:15 AM

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This was a surprisingly good movie. I really enjoyed the setting of Hell and the plot was decent as far as anime movies which accompany long-running series go. I thought Shuren was going to be the main antagonist but Kokuto was fairly cool because he was voiced by Kazuya Nakai :P
Aug 8, 2012 9:39 AM

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Just Another Bleach Movie... Same Stuff.....

But it's quite watchable and somewhat enjoyable....

Sep 24, 2012 12:17 AM

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The animation was great, but I didn't like story at all, especially in the second half. At least the other Bleach movies had decent enough stories and the other movies also had fight scenes with other characters like the Captains to keep things interesting.

Instead of having those random enemies who ended up having no relevance to the plot after being beaten, it would've been more interesting if they had to fight former enemies in Hell, like the Espadas. After they showed 8 & 9 in the preview episode of the anime, and then Ulquiorra in the intro, I was hoping they would show up.

Also they didn't even bother answering some questions like about Yuzu's chains, so I feel 6/10 is the right score for this movie.
Nov 2, 2012 3:05 AM

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The fights were amazing. I think it will be my favorite movie for Bleach. XD

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Mar 25, 2013 12:08 PM

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This was actually my favorite Bleach movie, and I'm happy to say so, since film 3 was my least favorite.

The animation was gorgeous. I was impressed by the fights (I loved the Ichigo vs Ulquiorra fight), and the backgrounds looked crisp too.

The plot wasn't anything great, but its a Shonen Jump film, so...

I think Ichigo's hollow form is cool, so I was glad to see it again. I didn't care much for his film-only form, though.

The ending was nice, and I enjoyed the J-pop song.
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Apr 1, 2013 11:05 AM

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best movie ^^
May 13, 2013 7:38 PM

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The fights weren't to bad but there wasn't anything at all different from say the past three movies.
Sep 25, 2013 2:13 AM

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01:10:07 so, wth's Kurosaki papa?

01:11:47 dat boin

Horrible. 2/10.
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
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Nov 7, 2013 1:55 PM

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This movie sure was the best of all 4, really great animation and art and just amazing action and pace! And to be honest if the whole series was this way without all the fillers it sure would've been much much better!

Really loved this movie and this brings an end to my Bleach experience, it sure was a nice one and well if they ever continue with a second season of Bleach I'm sure to watch it!
Nov 13, 2013 2:59 AM

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I was expecting Ulquiorra, but no dice :(

btw, my 1st post!!!
Dec 7, 2013 7:56 PM

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Wow, that was the blast. Best "Bleach" movie for me. Thou, that's may be because I didn't expected too much - it's shounen, y'know. But in the end everything was in it's place: cool battles? - check! Pathos? - check! Sudden power-up? - check! Power of friendship? - check! Ending theme that rocks? - check! What else we need? What else you've expected? Deep meaning? Complicated twisted plot? Revealin' some previously unanswered questions/history? Come on, it's our classical shonen, moreover, not a series/special, but a movie, that's kinda like filler, only better. Just sit back and enjoy the fray.

Jan 29, 2014 2:15 AM

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Apr 24, 2014 8:44 AM

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The best movie Bleach in my opinion.Amazing and Ichigo obtained a new form.8/10 from me.

Jul 18, 2014 1:24 PM

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Pretty good movie :)
Jul 18, 2014 8:34 PM

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hahah I though it was pretty badass
I knew that guy was going to turn out to be the mastermind behind it all
it was way to convenient for him to show up when he did
Pretty good though as a bleach fan I enjoyed it
Jun 10, 1:51 AM

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I find it amusing that the one time someone tells Ichigo to butt out of Soul Society's affairs, the bad guys put Ichigo into the center of the story. Thank you! (Nah not really, but whatever).

I thought this was a really good movie compared to the previous three. They built up the story nicely without getting into battles and the art seems somewhat better. They don't force too many fight scenes with different characters and the setting is different from our usual Sereitei.

What Bleach really needs to improve on is the character development/more effort in their antagonists. When the fiery guy died so easily, I was like, "Wait. That's it?". Kokuto was alright, but maybe a few flashback scenes of his sister would have been nice.

Anyways, it was a good movie in Bleach standards. I gave it a 7/10.
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