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Aug 21, 2011 2:02 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Claude and Camille finally meet each other! Oh man there is a certain level of tension between them when they talk.

Alice's imagination continues being as amusing as ever though, and of course there is no shortage of Yune's HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG!

GOD I love ths show! Gets better every episode! And the next episode shows even MORE of the past of Claude and Camille, my body is ready!
Aug 21, 2011 2:06 PM
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Lovely. They did change some stuff from the manga, but they managed to make it right. i got teary and that only happened to me on special episode 4.5 of this anime. Now they managed to make me teary again.
So in this episode we see a short flashback of Camille x Claude and we get to see they were childhood friends, and Claude brought her stray cats.
Also Camille´s cat is some sort of symbol to show the lack of freedom on Camille´s life. i feel so sorry for her and Claude, really.
It was nice to see the love Camille has for her sister Alice, as well as jealous Camille and Camille becoming friend of Yune.
Im officially a Camille fan now (lol, i already was on the manga, now ill keep being it in the anime version).
next episode preview is so awesome. we´ll get a whole episode of Camille x Claude childhood, cant wait to watch it!
and i have to say the ending song of this episode was just great. Not so good as the song of episode 4.5, but still awesome.
now...i think Claude still loves Camille just like she loves him.
but i also love Yune x Claude so much....im still divided!
Yune was just too adorable dressed like a doll and with her different hairstyle. Adorable*.*~~~~
and damn, i want subs so much T_T

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Aug 21, 2011 7:03 PM
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Lovely. They did change some stuff from the manga, but they managed to make it right. i got teary and that only happened to me on special episode 4.5 of this anime. Now they managed to make me teary again.
Yeah me too and that dragon in the ceiling drawn out. Amazing really!
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Also Camille´s cat is some sort of symbol to show the lack of freedom on Camille´s life. i feel so sorry for her and Claude, really.
She always felt too much shit pressed on to her by the family, like wearing the stupid robe full of metal bars. That thing is like a cage. It's horrible then there is "we expect things from you such as manners and posture/behavior" That's really bad and to make things worst is that Camille was suffering from it. I bet would not give a rat's ass for her new husband. She would lose her innocence to Claude and be with him to commit adultery than being fake happy with the chosen person for her to marry, whom is most likely a rich snob.

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Aug 21, 2011 8:53 PM
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Camille wanted to marry Claude when they were little?

Another day of Yune visiting Alice. And more young memory of Camille and Claude. Interaction between Claude and Camille are very tense.

lol~ Momotarou!!

So they have different room to sleep between when they are kid and grow up?

I was afraid that Camille's aura to Yune would hurt her, but Yune's surprising that even Camille "lost". So she's giving that dress to Yune.

Nice special ED!

More Camille and Claude past next ep.?
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Aug 21, 2011 9:34 PM
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Camille wanted to marry Claude when they were little?


More like she wanted to be with Claude even after she married someone else (cause she obv couldn't marry Claude)
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Aug 22, 2011 2:42 AM
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> More like she wanted to be with Claude even after she married someone else (cause she obv couldn't marry Claude)

Yeah. She said smth like "Could we play together even if than I get married"
Aug 22, 2011 3:45 AM
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This episode is a pretty faithful adaptation of the manga's chapter 6, though they did leave something out that I thought was important.
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Aug 22, 2011 3:57 AM
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Awww. Such an adorable episode yet again! My week will be great for another week until I see the next episode.

For a moment though, I thought Camille was being rude to Yune. But it all turned out all warm and fuzzy. This is probably the best ongoing show at the moment (alongside natsume ofc.)

Every time Alice talks I want to give her a hug! I usually get annoyed with girls like her, but she is amazing at appreciating good things. her remarks on Claude is of another matter though.

Every time Yune smiles makes my heart melt. I love the way she always apologizes even though she is not at fault. She is just too adorable.

Nice ED of a great episode. This anime is turning out to be a real gem! Only 4 episodes remain though. Which is sad. T_T
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Aug 22, 2011 4:42 AM
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One of the best episodes so far. Looking forward to next episode to see more of the story between Claude and Camille.
Aug 22, 2011 5:06 AM

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I don't know what it is with Camille. On one hand she's kind and caring but on the other hand she seems frustrated and rather rude. I don't really know what she was trying to accomplish by talking to Yune, but I think she wanted to find out how much she got influenced by Claude. Looking forward to the next episode, to see where this goes.

Aug 22, 2011 7:07 AM

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I can't get over how cute Claude and Camille are.
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Shit! Camille scares me I thought she'd play the antagonist in this ep, her voice is so calming yet scary when she was talking to Yune but well I'm happy nothing happens between them

and I like the song played at the end and

I'm liking Alice more and more <333 the type of Tsundere that is not irritating.
Aug 22, 2011 10:23 AM

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it is very interesting that even as a kid she knew she could never marry him. it is also interesting that she curses her fate as being born into aristocracy and cant or won't choose to escape it.

the next episode is called secret but in french its called secret garden. that is a very crucial distinction that seems to be lost as they mean different things.
Aug 22, 2011 10:24 AM
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I don't know what it is with Camille. On one hand she's kind and caring but on the other hand she seems frustrated and rather rude.

Rude? Have you seen Claude? He is the one who is rude towards Yune whenever she does something wrong and also to Alice when he said "Yune is being manipulated by Alice", which FYI was not how we saw her treat Yune in this episode. Camille was not even the least bit rude, she was only being honest and straight and look what has happened in the end, she kindly gave Alice's old dress to her and told Yune exactly what Claude thinks and she was right. In the manga Claude denied at first that Camille was like Yune when she was young but in the end he accepted it and she was right. Camille is probably the only person besides Oscar who knows Claude better than anyone else.
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I totally support Claude x Camille. they really suit each other and i feel really sorry for Camille for taking all those family burdens on her. i wish if she could runaway with Claude but i know it's not gonna happen because Claude don't have guts even if he does love her.

Conversation between Claude and Camille is bothering me. I don't know what happened between them but i don't like Claude behavior with almost everyone and i somehow agree with Alice for his twisted personality.

Camille thinking Yune as her rival was a bit off for me.. I don't see them like that at all. Yune better be just like a caring little sister to Claude.
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Shit! Camille scares me I thought she'd play the antagonist in this ep, her voice is so calming yet scary when she was talking to Yune.

Scary? you wanna see scary, try looking at Claude. That's pretty much how his character has been when he first showed his rebellious nature and the way he scolds Yune for doing things wring and how he thinks Alice is manipulating Yune, which was totally bogus. Claude lied that he doesn't like girls because of stray cats yet he doesn't mind Yune who apparently likes stray cats. He was wrong when he denied Camille saying that Yune is just like her and at the end of the manga's Chapter 6 he admitted she was right. Face it, to Yune x Claude fans she may be assumed to be bad but when people get to know her like they eventually knew about Claude, they're totally wrong. Camille is probably the only person besides Oscar who knows Claude better than anyone else
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Camille thinking Yune as her rival was a bit off for me.

Camille never assumed that. She was only telling Yune about what Claude truly thinks about the dresses girls wear. She also encouraged Yune not to let Claude's decisions cloud her judgement of the things that she likes and he doesn't. Truth be told she does a better job of giving advice to Yune than Claude. And lo behold, she became Yune's fourth best friend counting Alice, Claude and Oscar. She completes Claude.
Aug 22, 2011 10:59 AM

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The Camille x Claude pairing is shown here.

The imaginations of Alice never cease to amuse me. :)

Yune was way too adorable this episode. :)


Aug 22, 2011 12:22 PM

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Best episode by far, I just loved it. Alice as a child was just sooo cute, and her personality of being free probably had Camille jealous. You can tell how much Camille wants to be free, actually being in awe of Alice's story. Thought Camille was going to be mean and stuff when talking about Claude, but it turned out very sweet at the end.

Man these coincidences are pretty cool, picking the same dress and telling a story that happens years later.

Ugh every episode makes me love Alice even more. Her personality is just great.
Aug 22, 2011 1:00 PM

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I support Alice x Yune.
Alice is an excellent young lady with an excellent taste in girls, mmhmm.
Dat Oscar skipping out on work though...
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Aug 22, 2011 1:06 PM

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I was hoping there'd be more Claude x Camille, but it seems there'll plenty of that next episode. They are so cute together, I hope they'll get to together in the end. ;w;
Alice and Yune are adorably, I find myself smiling at them every time.
Aug 22, 2011 1:07 PM

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Alice x Yune ftw

Alice was dreaming of meeting and befriending a Japanese girl when she was little and then you got Yune's dream of going to Paris. It was a friendship formed by fate.


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I'm really interested in the relationship between Camille and Claude. I don't know why, bit when Yune was picking out clothes I thought that Camille was going to yell at her or slap her. Something like that. Don't know why though.

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Shit! Camille scares me I thought she'd play the antagonist in this ep, her voice is so calming yet scary when she was talking to Yune but well I'm happy nothing happens between them

and I like the song played at the end and

I'm liking Alice more and more <333 the type of Tsundere that is not irritating.


I thought so about Camille as well, she sounded really scary at points yet she still kept calm.

-I couldn't stop smiling how cute the scene where Alice was telling her story, that made the episode that much more better.
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Aug 22, 2011 2:14 PM

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A child's imagination is wondrous to behold. Alice's little story was so cute and pretty telling for what would happen to her in the future.

I'm really looking forward to next week's flashback tale of Claude and Camille. Hoping they patch things up later on.
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Aug 22, 2011 3:12 PM

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ignorance is happiness.

yune and alice seem to get that part well. they don't know anything about the world as it seems they don't even care. yet on the other side, Claud and Camille are two that have faced the harsh reality. seeing small portions of the flashback it seemed whatever society did it turned them into some quite bitter people.

on the lol side. i love the grandpa. definitely a comedic relief character which are crucial to any drama since..well the invention of dramas. his character design is quite excellent and his placements in screen time are exceptional. and the stray cat metaphors: excellence

seeing Camille for some reason reminded me of netorare...

if i end up misunderstanding the hints i'm sorry.

aside from my naive side, which refuses to accept such reality, these things happen often. so much so it doesn't bother me or as a matter of fact, anyone.
going back to the anime, because we are slightly in depth of Camille we empathize with her, although the same thing happens practically daily elsewhere in the world.

it may be just me but this anime to taking some deep turns, and i would definitely want to see a second season because there is just so much story that can be generated, past, future or present.

oh, i'm a CamillexClaud. Before i new about their past i was a YunexClaud. i'm still a Yune fan. i can't get enough of her modestly but pairing wise i believe Camille deserves it more no matter how Yandere she is.

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Aug 22, 2011 5:32 PM

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I knew there's some kind of relationship between Claude and Camille.
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"Nothing really happens, but in a really good way"

Heh, I love the ending part ^^
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Aug 22, 2011 6:22 PM

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Alice x Yune ftw

Alice was dreaming of meeting and befriending a Japanese girl when she was little and then you got Yune's dream of going to Paris. It was a friendship formed by fate.

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Dat metaphor! I felt a strong hatred of Camile coming on in defense of our precious Yune, but by the end of the episode, I couldn't tell if she was actually mean to her! Claude/Camile has to happen in one way or another.
Aug 22, 2011 6:56 PM

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Im looking forward to that insight in Claude's past relationship with Camille :)
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Hoppy said:
Alice x Yune ftw

Alice was dreaming of meeting and befriending a Japanese girl when she was little and then you got Yune's dream of going to Paris. It was a friendship formed by fate.

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LOL. yes. dat ringo! <3 penguindrum references.

But yeah, I'm still on the fence about Camille... I want to know more about her and Claude's relationship...
Aug 22, 2011 7:49 PM

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Oh my god, awesome episode! Claude stop being so mean to Camille! D: I really like her for some reason ... oh my god, young Alice was so cute :3 Her story was so awesome lol, she thought of meeting a Japanese girl XD The dragon was pretty awesome. I like the dynamic between the two sisters :3
More Claude and Camille past next episode :D
Aug 22, 2011 8:28 PM

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Camille was never mean, rude or whatever. She was just frank about what she says yet very true. But yeah, her manner of speaking definitely has something to do with jealousy XDD

PS: Anyone know how old is Yune?? o.o I haven't thought about this until it was mentioned in this episode. XDD

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same here xD

Camille is pretty much jealous of them both, two of them for being free and one for being with someone she wanted to be with.
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Way to tease us with Camille x Claude prelude there... I was like "WHERE THE HELL IS THE BACKGROUND??" but the spoiler saved it lol. I want to see more!!!! oh and....
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Aug 22, 2011 10:01 PM

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For a moment I thought Camille was going to lock Yune inside the closet. >_>
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Camille was never mean, rude or whatever. She was just frank about what she says yet very true. But yeah, her manner of speaking definitely has something to do with jealousy XDD

PS: Anyone know how old is Yune?? o.o I haven't thought about this until it was mentioned in this episode. XDD
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For a moment I thought Camille was going to lock Yune inside the closet. >_>


this actually crossed my mind too LOL Camille scared the heck out of me when she talked to Yune jealousy in her eyes D:< lulz but im glad it ended so peacefully
the momotaro visualization was like the cutest thing ever LOL and of course alice's fairy tail :3
looks like next epi's gonna be more Claude x Camille ;O
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I thought that Camille was going to yell at her or slap her. Something like that. Don't know why though.

Dude, so true. For some time there was a tension of really dramatic, maybe even thriller anime like Higurashi/Umineko series - and maybe if Yune wasn't Yune, she would end up locked in a closet with a blunt wound in her skull... ... ... Dude, now that's too much of Ace Attorney for ya XD
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Yune looked cuter in that oversized dress if you ask me.
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Camille was never mean, rude or whatever. She was just frank about what she says yet very true. But yeah, her manner of speaking definitely has something to do with jealousy XDD

No, as a matter of fact she is not jealous of Yune being with Claude. Do you want to know why? She only asked about Yune's background from Claude because it was the first time he had ever approved of a girl being at his side. Camille only asked Yune to be more careful than always cheerful and what Claude truly thinks about dresses and she was right. If she was jealous she would have openly told Yune to stay away from Claude instead she gave Yune some healthy and truthful advice and kindly gave her Alice's old dress. Yune and Camille are two special angels in the show right now.
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Im a Camille x Claude, but i do believe Camille in the beginning was a bit jealous of Yune, perhaps because she knows she will never be able to be with the man she loves, living in the same house, just like Yune is. Its normal, i would feel like that too. Being jealous does not make you a bad person, its a human reaction that everyone feels.
In fact, by doing that she showed more of herself and her true desire than her usual behavior which is a behavior that follows too many rules of her status.
and her jealousy disappeared right away when she realized Yune was a kind warm person:)
Usually her smile seems so fake, but we were able to see Camille smiling with a genuine open smile to Yune, just like she smiled in her childhood to Claude.

And hell, i love Claude, but he is a bit harsh on Camille. She always knew she never could marry a guy from lower status, so she told him that quote "Even when i marry, will u still come over to play?" and hurt him, but, deep inside is clear that we can see her suffering. she loved him and still clearly loves him.
But...she will do everything for the sake of her parents aka society even if she is miserable and unhappy. You really cannot blame her, its not her fault. Besides the only way for them to get together would be to elope and i just cannot see that happening, because she wouldn't leave her sister, and he wouldn't leave his gallery plus, they don't have money to support themselves.
I just wish Claude could understand that.

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Shit! Camille scares me I thought she'd play the antagonist in this ep, her voice is so calming yet scary when she was talking to Yune.

Scary? you wanna see scary, try looking at Claude. That's pretty much how his character has been when he first showed his rebellious nature and the way he scolds Yune for doing things wring and how he thinks Alice is manipulating Yune, which was totally bogus. Claude lied that he doesn't like girls because of stray cats yet he doesn't mind Yune who apparently likes stray cats. He was wrong when he denied Camille saying that Yune is just like her and at the end of the manga's Chapter 6 he admitted she was right. Face it, to Yune x Claude fans she may be assumed to be bad but when people get to know her like they eventually knew about Claude, they're totally wrong. Camille is probably the only person besides Oscar who knows Claude better than anyone else


Scared at Claude?? No No No!. Tsundere characters never scares me for once they are the loving and caring type at all despite of their rude impression at 1st.

This is what scares me of Camille in this ep.
She looks calming at 1st

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Great episode.seems like Camille has really a cute personality she just hides it under her cold attitude...
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Shit! Camille scares me I thought she'd play the antagonist in this ep, her voice is so calming yet scary when she was talking to Yune.

Scary? you wanna see scary, try looking at Claude. That's pretty much how his character has been when he first showed his rebellious nature and the way he scolds Yune for doing things wring and how he thinks Alice is manipulating Yune, which was totally bogus. Claude lied that he doesn't like girls because of stray cats yet he doesn't mind Yune who apparently likes stray cats. He was wrong when he denied Camille saying that Yune is just like her and at the end of the manga's Chapter 6 he admitted she was right. Face it, to Yune x Claude fans she may be assumed to be bad but when people get to know her like they eventually knew about Claude, they're totally wrong. Camille is probably the only person besides Oscar who knows Claude better than anyone else


Scared at Claude?? No No No!. Tsundere characters never scares me for once they are the loving and caring type at all despite of their rude impression at 1st.

This is what scares me of Camille in this ep.

Camille is a possible candidate of being a Yandere that's why she scares me.

Were you even listening to what she was saying? It's in the picture you posted: "Claude wouldn't praise you for choosing things based on his opinion". She was only telling the truth about Claude's attitude and she was right. A Yandere is a psychopath who desperately goes after the one she loves even if the one she loves has someone else. Have you not heard what Camille said when she was a child? "Even if I get married would you still come over to play?" She's fine with however things turn out even if it is with Yune. And in the end she becomes Yune's new best friend.

In case you haven't notice Yune and Camille are the same. They both like stray cats, they are both beautiful angels at heart and they empathize with others.
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I want Camille x Claude, somehow dunno why. I just want it.
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Great episode.seems like Camille has really a cute personality she just hides it under her cold attitude...


She is not cold, she never is. Anyone can just assume that with the face that she makes towards Yune, but she never showed it nor have any thought of it. The only one who is cold is Claude. That's exactly what everyone thinks whenever he scolds Yune for doing things wrong or at Alice when he thinks she's manipulating Yune. He can't even put on a thankful face to the Blanche family especially since they were the ones who helped Yune get better by calling the doctor. If you call Camille cold after that then you have not seen this episode entirely.
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It was nice to see that Camille trying to be mean to Yune did not really work. I'm seeing a lot of supporters for Camille and Claude, but I really don't want that. I would love to see Claude end up with Yune. I'd feel sorry for Camille, but this is what she chose and although she could change her mind, I think it is too late now. Also, I'm seriously wondering how old Yune is even more.

Yune x Claude FTW!!!

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