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I'd say it depends on if Lelouch is in his Zero suit or not. If he is, then Light can't see his face. Even still, that's only relevant if Light knew Lelouch's name.

Hey, now that I think about it, doesn't Lelouch use a fake name to hide his royal identity?

It's like Lelouch was SO brilliant he foresaw the battle between him and Kira. ;O

Actually, you guys are are asking the wrong question. The right question would be whether the Geass is superior to the Death Note. You all say that it would be easy for Lelouch to win because he has a lot more allies than Light, but what if it was Light in Lelouch's position and Lelouch in Light's position? If they have to fight, they each have to fight under the same condition, aka one on one.

That being said, I assume that they are both equal in intelligence (though I think Light is smarter because he's #1 in the nation, and knows more variety). Therefore, the only thing to compare is the Geass and Death Note (and by that I include Shinigami eyes). Since both of them require eye contact, the person who can make it and then kill the other wins. And based on that alone, Lelouch will win because its easier to give a command than it is to take out a piece of paper and then scribble something down.

But, there's another factor that favors the Shinigami. Light just has to see his opponent's face just once to be able to win, however, with Lelouch, he has to make eye contact AND issue the command at the same time. So, if in a series of events Light is able to remove Lelouch's mask without being Geassed in the process, then he won because Lelouch will never have another opportunity.

So, in the scenario that they are actually fighting without firearms, it would be a tough match. Although Light has an edge physically, he isnt able to look up at all into Lelouch's Mask, basically he has to rely on shadows or some other form, forfeiting his small physical advantage. However, if he can take off Lelouch's mask with his eyes closed or something, then he will win, but the chances of that happening are already slim. Therefore, the fight would probably get dragged on for a long time, and Lelouch has presumably less stamina than Light, but Light would be consuming more energy.

Therefore, it is a STALEMATE!

i think light is physically more powerful than lelouch, but tactically speaking lelouch would have the advantage. as for the geass and the death note: sure lelouch has to make eye contact, but once he does whoever he makes contact with would be under his power instantly, so they couldn't take out the death note and write his name. besides light would have to know lelouch's REAL name and see his face, so all lelouch has to do is wear his zero mask and only open up the eye slot to take down light. also lelouch has the black knights (who all wear masks by the way) and with his tactical genuis he could take down light. as for light, he is very smart, i'll give him that, but hes to arrogant, also he would never take the shinigami eyes b/c he would not shorten his own life (now misa's he would).
still my vote is for lelouch

Yes you are almost right, but there is one condition geass won't effect if another person has glasses.
I have wrote about earlier about Death Note ability's. And you all are saying that Light is weaker because Lulu can geass him. But what if Light use helmet like Lulu too? To Light it's easy comand for something even like Schneizel or Emperor. With DN he just can command them to anihilate Japanese (in R1 I think they could have easy done that, maybe even in R2) "Charles vi/li(don't remember which is correct) at July 11 day 16:50 commands entire empire attack and kill (or just arrest) every single person in Area 11 and of course don't let anyone to escape. Then two months later he dies from heart attack". So he just need to escape Japan and write this. I believe that Light use even this kind of things to archieve his objective. So even if geass is stronger in short distances, Death Note is much stronger in large distances. So Light can use his DN to control stongest people in the world and then Lelouch would be just easily crushed because than would be OotBK vs entire world. Hmm which is stronger?:D

Then use a mech and blow him up.

Unfortunately, doing that would be a cheap way to kill those you don't know the name of. The creators already thought of this beforehand, and have already made it a rule :

"Whether the cause of the individual’s death is either a suicide or accident. If the death leads to the death of more than the intended, the person will simply die of a heart attack. This is to ensure that other lives are not influenced. "

Another rule which may be interesting: "Also, even though some parts of the face, for example the eyes, nose or mouth are hidden, if he can basically see the whole face, he will be able to see the person’s name and life span. If above conditions are met, names and life spans can be seen through photos and pictures, no matter how old they are."

So basically, Light has to bring a digital camera with him and then take a picture of the unmasked Lelouch looking at the screen and then he'll be safe from being affected by Geass while finding out his identity, if he could manage to pull that off ^^

Actually, there is one flaw to that. It's not that because Ohgi or Diethard or etc. doesn't know who Zero is that he couldn't kill him, but it is because it's not something realistic that they would do. Remember that episode in Death Note where the prisoner could not right "I know who L is". It's because it's not something realistic they would do without outside interference and therefore can't be done



That is possible I guess...

Yes, but he can command just to kill Zero, they know Zero as masked person, so it's enough for them to attack that masked person even if there isn't Lulu.

But from where Light would know that Charles knows who truly is Zero?

You cannot use the Death Note to manipulate a person to kill another person, you can only control what they do to themselves before they die.

"Whether the cause of the individual’s death is either a suicide or accident, if the death leads to the death of more than the intended, the person will simply die of a heart attack. This is to ensure that other lives are not influenced. "

He has to find out Zero's identity the old fashioned way...

Well you got me :D But still Light just can order Diethard(or somebody else) to leak information about entire OotBK(of course without Zero) and then Light can do whatever he wants, even order to capture Zero and then he can do it in "old fashioned way".
me say: I won't surrender easily mua ha ha. :p

How bout this?

Light convinces Ryuk to just kill everyone. No one's mentioned that yet...

Because Ryuk wouldn't do it Khdou he strictly watched the events that took place.
But I believe we can answer this question simply by analyzing their situations. Light rose to the top with his power and intelligence but to stay at the top he's had to rely on the black knights, his crew, his men. Leouch has a good eye for people. Light valued a person as much as he valued a dog and he paid for it. His downfall was not the fault of his intelligence but in the intelligence of those he used. By treating people like nothing his people gave him nothing in return. Megumi wrote a name he shouldn't have which tipped N off, and the reasons Misa ruined things for Light could be written on a lengthy scroll. In other words a war is not won by one man it is won by many. If Lelouch and Light were in a battle of wits, or a war. Lelouch would probably win because his pawns are better than Light's.

I think that Lelouch would win this one. They both seem to be pretty smart however having a death note you need to know there name and see their face. Lelouch could just wear his zero mask, open the little eye hole and say, DIE! Itd be pretty easy, Light has no chance.

In a fight beetween Lelouch and Light it is wery unprobale that the will take each other head on.

thanks really hard... i guess it would depend in which world they were in. but if they were both normal ( like not haveing the power of geass or the death note) in a battle of minds i think that light would win. it would be really close battle.

I'd say Light would win.

Lelouch and Light, both have extraordinary thinking skills and can plan ahead superbly. They both have special powers, be it Lulu's Geass or Light's Death Note and his special eye.

Taking that into consideration, Lulu might hide his real identity, like he had been doing it before episode 19, from Light's eye, and eventually find out who Kira is. But, to actually enforce his power over Light, he would have to be with him face-to-face, looking directly to his eyes. Light could look at Lelouch from afar and write down his name before Lulu could do anything.

Even so, Lelouch rocks!

I say they're pretty evenly matched. If lelouch looked in Kira's eye's it would be over. But until the very last episode of Death Note, Kira's identity was pretty much unknown so it would be hard for lelouch to even come into close enough contact to use his Geass.

But on the same hand Lelouch is always wearing his mask to protect his face. Yet knowing Kira's manipulative abilities he would probably know his name since mostly everyone important in Code Geass knows lulu's name now.

So battle wise i don't see a clear winner. But a match of chess? Now THAT would be interesting.

Hinata020, that chess game you mention, i think L vs Lelouch would be tighter! XD :P Don't think Light would beat Lulu.

That's a tough question. No! I can't answer it! I'll never be able to answer it.
Maybe it'll be a draw?

wow.. they are both smart...
its really a hard to decide but i think lelouch will win.