Who would win in this fight: Lelouch Lamprouge or Light Yagami?
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#21
07-22-08, 2:10 PM
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wow... I agree - that would be an epic battle. Let's see... What Styrius Said is actually true, however it does not have a 100% success rate. Basically he could write "Ohgi Kaname, at 16:18 kills Zero, then dies of heart attack". However if Lelouch were able to dodge that attack somehow/someone would defend him, or Ohgi ould be far away - it wouldn't work. You have to note that in this example, Ohgi could only use "normal" methods - Knife, gun, piano wire - whatever was available ATM, also I think that the instructions are fading away after some time... after all if you would capture him - he would have to live forever until he fulfills that order, which - as we have already seen - does not work that way. I also agree about the second name point. Light would have to know that Lelouch's real name was vi Britannia, and not Lamperouge, besides he would have to know Lelouch's face. it is also true that Lelouch-Dono is a little bit too kind for his own good - this makes him much more likeable character than Kira, but if they were to face each other, it would certainly be his undoing. Kira is wiling to sacrifice anyone and everyone who stand on his way. Lelouch does not want to sacrifice those who are close to him, and - again as we have already seen - it causes him alot of pain. In the end... there are also alot of other factors, like Astaroth said - assuming that it's Kira who comes into play, an Zero's forces are already developed... I think Kira might have a bit of advantage, called "the element of surprise". If he only managed to stay "quiet" long enough to get close to OotBK - I believe he could win. What comes into play here is their ability to use strategical thinking though - which like some said already, is domain of Lelouch-Dono. Kira actually made some critical mistakes - like in the beginning, he didn't take into account that the whole "I am L and I declare war on you" is only a facade to find out where is he. If Zero did not have OotBK... It's interesting. On one hand, he would not have a force to investigate Kira. On the other hand - there would be probably no people who know his true identity, except C.C., who we assume is immune to Death Note. What is crucial though is their abilities I think. If Lelouch knew Kira's name - he could easily order anyone from around him to kill him. Kira would need to know Lelouch's real name AND face to kill him directly, or have perfect timing in ordering someone to do so. I believe Geass is much more "stable" than Death note - this means that target will go anywhere within his abilities to fulfill an order. Death Note loses at this point, because if you are not within range of your secondary objective (primary being your death), you automatically die. So in this aspect - Zero wins. though it's hard to clearly point out the winner. Personally I think Lelouch is a bit more cunning strategist, while Light has the advantage of complete lack of moral code. But yeah, if it was a physical competition, Kira would definitely win XD |
#22
07-22-08, 2:23 PM
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If they ever met, lulu could use the geass to force an answer from him. Are you kira? yes=blam, no = that person is safe, next one... |
#23
07-22-08, 2:31 PM
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Boge said: If they ever met, lulu could use the geass to force an answer from him. Are you kira? yes=blam, no = that person is safe, next one... if that ever happened, i agree that lelouch will defeat him. |
#24
07-22-08, 2:34 PM
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Boge said: If they ever met, lulu could use the geass to force an answer from him. Are you kira? yes=blam, no = that person is safe, next one... Why? Just kill him. |
#25
07-22-08, 4:17 PM
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Lelouch would most likely use the geass on Light to wright Light's name in the death note |
#26
07-22-08, 4:54 PM
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And interesting thought experimet. Hope this becomes an anime one day :D If Lelouch and light would meet in combat, Lelouch would win simply becasu he can geas his opponent while lights death note is more of a far range weapon. And if that wouldn't work he could use a knightmare. Thought you can say Lelouch's geas is superior to Lights death note it has one mayor disadvantage, it can only be used once each person. So Light could trick him into using his geas on him for some trivial thing. If Lelouch would have met light he would deffinitly make him write the names of his enemies in the death note. A great advantage of Light is that if he gets a list of personel of the black knights he could kill them all. Then again you might say Lelouch has allies while Light doesn't, that can easly be fixed be killing half a goverment a threaten the rest to obey him or die. the one that would ulitmatly win would be the one that figured out the other identity. Light could then easly kil using the death note so could Lelouch by ordering someone to kill him. It would be a most interesting fight that in no wy would be decided before it begins. |
#27
07-22-08, 5:24 PM
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Boblejim said: And interesting thought experimet. Hope this becomes an anime one day :D If Lelouch and light would meet in combat, Lelouch would win simply becasu he can geas his opponent while lights death note is more of a far range weapon. And if that wouldn't work he could use a knightmare. Thought you can say Lelouch's geas is superior to Lights death note it has one mayor disadvantage, it can only be used once each person. So Light could trick him into using his geas on him for some trivial thing. If Lelouch would have met light he would deffinitly make him write the names of his enemies in the death note. A great advantage of Light is that if he gets a list of personel of the black knights he could kill them all. Then again you might say Lelouch has allies while Light doesn't, that can easly be fixed be killing half a goverment a threaten the rest to obey him or die. the one that would ulitmatly win would be the one that figured out the other identity. Light could then easly kil using the death note so could Lelouch by ordering someone to kill him. It would be a most interesting fight that in no wy would be decided before it begins. None of the advantages you stated for Light would work. Geass works once per person, true, but Lelouch would kill him anyway. It'd be practically impossible for Light to get a list of Black Knight members. The fight would be over a few seconds after it starts. Lelouch has an army, giant mechs, and a secret identity. Light would be screwed XD. |
#28
07-23-08, 9:53 AM
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Light needs to know their faces too. And I believe Lulu is way too smart to be tricked into using it on a trivial matter. |
#29
07-23-08, 10:11 AM
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Unless he said "I know who killed Marianne" Lelouch might get tricked. |
#30
07-23-08, 1:08 PM
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CCs_No1_Fanboy said: How would he be tricked? If he then refused to tell, I would say that was enough to trigger mr. suspicious, he have an ulterior motive.Unless he said "I know who killed Marianne" Lelouch might get tricked. |
#31
07-24-08, 8:46 AM
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But to use such argument, Kira would have to know Lelouch's identity or motives. Decide for yourself which information is harder to obtain. |
#32
07-24-08, 1:37 PM
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Boge said: Light needs to know their faces too. And I believe Lulu is way too smart to be tricked into using it on a trivial matter. Not really, in the Code geas series Lelouch often use geas on normal military for relatively small issues. So if Light could find Lelouch dress up as a police / military and do something that Lelouch want to change. It's true that tht is a hard thing to do, but lets not underestimate that they both are very intelligent persons. Lelouch can very well use his geas on relatively small matters as long as he thinks the person isn't that important. |
#33
07-24-08, 1:49 PM
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CCs_No1_Fanboy said: None of the advantages you stated for Light would work. Geass works once per person, true, but Lelouch would kill him anyway. It'd be practically impossible for Light to get a list of Black Knight members. The fight would be over a few seconds after it starts. Lelouch has an army, giant mechs, and a secret identity. Light would be screwed XD. Since Light has the power to kill anyone he knows the face and name of he could wery easliy get all the info he want's from known people. He could do this by writing their names in the death note and ordering them to write down the info Light want before he dies. As for a fight beetwen Light and Lelouch. Light could obtain and army,giant mechs and a secret identity. It isn't to hard to blackmail your self to power when it is known that you seemingly can kill anyone without being there. |
#34
07-24-08, 2:37 PM
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But the Death Note only kills. You can't give people orders w/ it. |
#35
07-24-08, 4:15 PM
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You can, to some extent. "At 11:50 pm Fanboy shouts loudly "I LOVE C.C.!" then dies of heart attack". As long as the command is within your abilities, the person will execute it. |
#36
07-26-08, 4:56 AM
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You can also, say do that and tht if not i will kill you with the death note. True it isn't as reliable as the geas, but then you can gice the order from the other side of earth if you want. As we know Light wouldn't hesitate with killing somebody that disobeys. |
#37
07-26-08, 10:47 PM
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Hmm. It's pretty simple. If Light knows Lulu, Lulu is screwed. If Light and Lulu have eye contact, Lulu would probably just tell him to forget about the whole thing, and Ryuk would tell Light what happened, and then Light would kill lulu that way xD |
#38
07-26-08, 10:52 PM
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I say Lulu! even thought I haven't seen Deathnote :D |
#39
07-27-08, 12:37 AM
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This question is way too open. It all depends on the hypothetical situations the two characters are placed in. Light holds the element of surprise as a trump card, whereas Lelouch holds the power of Geass along with an entire armed force. Light could win, but I'd say the odds are definitely in Lelouch's favor for most circumstances. Light needs to know both who Lelouch is and that he is Lelouch vi Britannia, not Lelouch Lamperouge. This information would be much harder to acquire than for Lelouch to find out who Light is, considering the resources available to Lelouch, not to mention the fact that if Lelouch was aware of a plot on his life, he'd be on alert for any suspicious activity. |
#40
07-27-08, 4:10 AM
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Lelouch would easily win, no one can deny it >_> Light's Death Note isn't enough. |


















