Poll: Black Cat Episode 23 Discussion

Jun 30, 2008 1:39 PM

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What a wonderful ending. Everything worked out. I enjoyed this series, but now its time to watch something else.
Jul 22, 2008 1:18 PM

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i didnt get it :S what happened to train? and where did he go later?
i thought this episode was really rushed..
Jul 30, 2008 9:05 AM

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Did seem a bit rushed, but basically I think Train just had some battle within his mind and afterward for some reason he decided he'd go back to being the loner for awhile. Don't know why though, but hey that's what he did.
Sep 7, 2008 8:24 AM

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3 out of 5: It was OK (your vote)
Nothing special.. Way too rushed. Somehow authors managed to smack down thiese fun series. The beginning was awsome, mid - good, ending - mediocre. If not such rushed ending it would get 8 from me, but now only 7(good).
Oct 10, 2008 5:17 PM

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The Anime Is Excellent of the Start to epidode 20! The three last episodes are terrible!!!!
Nov 15, 2008 9:20 AM

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This was the worst anime i've ever completed watching.
Dec 12, 2008 7:45 PM

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The anime was really good until the end of Train vs Creed afterthat it goes downhill to a depressing speed...

Last episode was horrible, look like the creater has put a plot without thinking how to finish it and that's what he had in mind at the time he done it... so rushed and suck ass.

ep1 to 19 = 9/10
ep20 to 23 = 5/10 (was only bearable because of the 19 episode before)

Still Eve is a wonderfull character if the plot wasn't centered about her I probably hadn't even bother watching the end.
Mar 10, 2009 2:09 AM

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Well I have seen the struggle of Creed and the other, but finally, while confusing at times loved this anime.

Mar 12, 2009 4:08 PM

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this anime was ok it had lots of elements were it could have been deep but its just ok
Jul 6, 2009 5:07 PM

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this anime started off entertaining but the ending really sucked D:<
Aug 13, 2009 12:38 PM

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though the last episodes without Creed is unnecessary for me i liked the ending and the Tengen-Toppa style of the serie:) maybe cause i didnt expect much first, i really liked it^^
Nov 5, 2009 2:31 AM

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I believe it was way too rushed as well. It was an amazing show, although the ending just ruined it for me.
Jan 8, 2010 10:06 AM

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The only thing I liked about this episode was Creed coming back, this time friendly. And I love the redesign, from a red rose to a white rose.

Also great to see the fire lady and blood man back. Charming.

But WAY to fast! And we got to little information, they should create a full episode after the fight, with happy moments where all are doing great, where we could see the last peace of animation of the characters.

I would like to see Black Cat and Creed getting along again, Eve getting along with her mother and such things! :C

And in the fight, I would like to see Eve's face when she woke up of the nano machine, and see her friends again.

A total rush, the last episode is a 1/10 (I think the last episode is very essential in an anime, and this just didn't do it, this ending is definitely not good enough).

I agree that 1 - 19 would be 9/10, I would personally rate the last episodes 3/10.

I will give this serie a total rating of 7. Because of the bad ending.
Modified by Znote, Jan 8, 2010 10:10 AM
Mar 28, 2010 7:56 PM

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gave it 9 cause of the damn rushed ending >.<

Are you the bloody applause monkey? Keep your f*cking comments to yourself. Thank you.
Apr 6, 2010 4:38 PM

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AHAHA omg what dose Eve love??? "You Sven!" XD U NO IT!!! X3 OMG poor Renslet and that Genouse... "When i come back i'm taking you on a date!" "There gonna have pretty babies" >.< that was HILARIOUS!!! hehe im so glad Leon was ok!!! WOW BAD ADAM!!! eeee Eve was so cute when ridding on the elephant!!! "Tamaya Tamaya" this epi was AWESOME!!! lol poor Train had 2 ride with that girl who loves him... best part was when she said, "Can sand kill you because I just swallowed a whole lot of it."XD so out of no where and AMAZING!!! X3
Modified by Mizore951, Apr 6, 2010 5:08 PM
Jul 29, 2010 5:19 AM

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This episode was really good everyones banded together for a final battle to save Eve.
Modified by dolphin456, Jul 29, 2010 5:24 AM
Jan 31, 2011 3:32 AM

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Bye bye Train.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Apr 25, 2011 12:37 AM

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This was the best! Everyone came together to help Eve and they gave a glimpse into everyone's future. It was rushed, I'll admit, but that doesn't affect my opinion. It kinda sucks that Train left, but at the end when Saya showed up, I think it was good that he didn't turn to look back at her because it might mean that Train has finally moved on from his past. This series was great! <3
Jul 11, 2011 11:23 PM

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Hi everyone. I did read through this topic but it was still difficult to judge. Could someone please tell me if this anime has a happy ending? Bittersweet doesn't count as happy! Inconclusive is fine as well, just so long as it's happy.

Please and thank you :)
Modified by Lilah, Jul 18, 2011 5:25 AM
Jul 15, 2011 12:01 PM

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romance between Sephiria Arks ard blackcat would have beenbetter endian was horrible!!
Aug 18, 2011 3:01 AM

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The series was a lot better up until the ending; it is a lot less epic than they it thinks it is. + Doesn't this series have 24 episodes, not 23?

Nov 8, 2011 7:09 AM

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taterhead said:
This was the worst anime i've ever completed watching.
Feb 3, 2012 7:15 AM

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Stunfisk said:
The series was a lot better up until the ending; it is a lot less epic than they it thinks it is. + Doesn't this series have 24 episodes, not 23?

I'm not even sure these people are even watching the same thing as me - mine has 24 episodes also.
Feb 8, 2012 10:59 PM

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yeah i had 24 episodes as well.. i was confused when mal had it listed as 23
Feb 11, 2012 3:18 PM

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Loved the anime but i didn't care for any of story after battle with Creed
Mar 20, 2012 1:01 PM

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Going to give this a 6/10. They totally fucked up the plot, not to mention this filler arc was just horrible.
But I guess that's what happens, when you try to fit (or even try to?) a 20 vol manga into a 23 episode series...

May 4, 2012 2:11 PM

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Theres 24 episodes... lol

and kinda stupid how train just ends up alone again, nothing worse then that. lol
Well, a season 2 would be quite cool, but i know better than that, its over
Jun 3, 2012 10:11 PM

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Well, like Sven said, Train will eventually return. Just seems like he'd need a few days alone. I thought the ending was great, but dang, it was SERIOUSLY rushed. I also am not sure why they suddenly skipped to some scenes with the Sweepers all departing in peace (while the big battle was still going on).

There's so much I was hoping to see, such as Creed's battle and reuniting with Train (without the creepy sadism and Train-idolizing), and where Sven and Train save Eve. Loved Train's mind-battle, but the end was confusing, where he shot into nowhere to save Eve.

The biggest disappointment was how after that last bullet shot, everything just skips to the end where they're leaving after everything is done. Still, I loved how everyone was banding together to save Eve (reminded me of Eureka Seven's last episode). The credits ending was nice, showed happy closure for everyone, and I got goosebumps when I saw Saya...

Even more goosebumps when Train just walked by her. For a second I thought it was a super-happy-end type thing, but it was so amazingly bittersweet when he just walked past her (of course, she wasn't exactly there, sweet symbolism).

"Every precious time
Let it go
Somewhere away
You will learn, And you'll love,
forgive the past and you can move on"

Well, this 23 episode deal is confusing me... I know there's a DVD special, so I wonder if some of us watched those 23 episodes with that special episode built in.
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Jul 2, 2012 12:09 PM

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I really enjoyed this anime, the end was a letdown though its like they crammed 10 worth of episodes into 1....
Jul 3, 2012 9:18 PM

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RebornYoshi said:
I really enjoyed this anime, the end was a letdown though its like they crammed 10 worth of episodes into 1....

Would have to agree with this. Towards then end, like 4-6 episodes from the end, I started to notice as if the anime was speeding up to come to an end. What I also didn't like to an extent was Train's personality around half of the anime. Would've preferred his attitude at the beginning of Black Cat.
Oct 7, 2012 7:56 PM

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I feel this anime went downhill but I still liked the ending. Train was awesome especially when he was a chronos. I'm definitely going to go read the manga now because I'm sure the anime was rushed and left a lot of stuff out.
May 27, 2013 6:22 PM

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The Zero Numbers Arc really screwed it over.

Are you the bloody applause monkey? Keep your f*cking comments to yourself. Thank you.
Sep 13, 2013 6:49 PM

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WELL that was rushed ending
Jan 2, 2014 2:23 AM

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The ending was wayyyyy too rushed. If they didn't rush it, it would have been perfect. I think ever since the Creed fight to the end, it was just... ugh. I thought it was nice that everyone gathered together to fight for Eve.

I don't understand why Train decided to suddenly leave Sven and Eve. TTATT. Sad. I guess it's just saying that he's a stray, free cat. O_O. I loved how he walked past Saya in the end but didn't look back, indicating that he has moved on.

AGHHHH. I don't know what to feel about this anime. It had a wonderful beginning... and then it began to rush around episode 16 or so. It became OK at episodes 16-end. The last episode went by tooooooo quickly, but I liked the end.
Feb 1, 2014 7:24 AM

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I really enjoyed this anime. The ending was less epic than I anticipated and definitely rushed. I like the idea that Train is moving on, away from Saya (or rather the image of Saya), and allowing Sven and Eve to live their own lives. As long as the maintain contact, there is no need to live together. I think he made a good choice leaving. I don't think there will ever be a relationship between Creed and Train. After all, the guy killed Saya. Just like Zanige killed Train's parents, there is a point you just can't get past, which means a friendship is not possible. That's right, Train - forgive, but never forget.
Apr 20, 2014 9:33 AM

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First of all it seems something weird is going on since everyone says 23 is the final but the dvd has 24. Anywho while I enjoyed the whole show however these final episodes were rushed.It could have used at least 3 more episodes.I mean the big bad fight with creed and the other guy was just glanced over and so were the other fights.Also there were some odd choice of editing.Why put the outcome right in the middle of the episode it made no sense.This should all have been used in the final minutes of the episode.End of the day show was a fun watch but man did they rush the final.
May 7, 2014 8:41 PM

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sadly the end feel rushed so much, i dont know why they do this, that happen lot of time, why not take 5 more minutes just to explain at everyone what happen to all people we seen in the anime, EVEN OPEN ending,. its something that i hate lot in anime, rushed ending...

p.s i would give 8/10 to this, not so bad, but could have been better
Oct 2, 2014 3:49 AM

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the ending was not at all good.It was totally rushed and i felt a huge transformation in rain's attitude. kinda liked him much more in the beginning.