| Isn't she the same woman that keeps on publicizing her life? I could care less about her quitting, but then again it's possible she voiced a few characters I know... |
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Lulexiaa said: BUT WHAT ABOUT FAIRY TAIL!!!!! D; It`ll continue, she`ll be doing the roles she is currently in. And even if she wouldn`t, Fairy Tail would still go on, that anime wouldn`t be shut down just becaus one va quittes, they make too much cash from it :P |
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| God damnit. I hope she doesn't miss any Fairy Tail episodes. She actually does a funny job at the "DON'T CALL ME FAT" and other parts like that. |
| Guys. Guys. Guys. Guys. Guess what. You keep falling for the same old tricks. And she keeps getting more and more publicity. The internet. Where the masses are to fucking stupid to realize the best way to "Kill it with fire" is to ignore something instead of spending even a minute to bash her. -points to Bieber, Rebecca Black, Ke$ha, The Irate Gamer, and loads of others who have made their fame on being hated. Ah....I love it. |
Sabinlerose said: Guys. Guys. Guys. Guys. Guess what. You keep falling for the same old tricks. And she keeps getting more and more publicity. The internet. Where the masses are to fucking stupid to realize the best way to "Kill it with fire" is to ignore something instead of spending even a minute to bash her. -points to Bieber, Rebecca Black, Ke$ha, The Irate Gamer, and loads of others who have made their fame on being hated. Ah....I love it. There's a difference between famous and infamous. The prefix of in changes the definition of the word and famous and infamous are not interchangeable. |
| I'm not defending her drama queen posts or anything, but why do we care so much about her life? xD If she wants to talk about it, let her be. It's her life, it's not like you HAVE to read about it. So if you are tired of these scandals, go watch your animu and ignore her. Defiance said: You can try to argue the "she can be normal girl" angle all you want, having sex with 3 out of 4 of your band mates is pretty bad lol. It's not just that though, most people started to dislike her because of the fact she abandoned her seiyuu career and blamed it on everyone else but herself. Tbh, she seems to blame everyone else for things that happen in her life in general. I don't get it... Even if she did sleep with almost all of her band members, it's not like she forced them into it, right? If she likes it and they enjoy it too, what's the problem? Even if she did sleep with all of them within a short amount of time, that's not wrong in any way, unless she was, like, in an official relationship with all of them and was cheating on all of them lol They might just have been sex friends for all we know. If she isn't cheating on anyone, isn't spreading STDs and isn't forcing anyone into it, I don't see how that is bad. But those virgin 30-year-old otakus really have to understand that we are in 2011, women can have a high sex drive and have sex with different guys without being in a relationship just like men LE SHOCK. That might be the mentality in Japan atm, but I'm surprised to see this kind of thing from most people here in this forum o_O I agree with what you said though, she could have been a little bit more secretive about her personal life since she knew how those otakus who pay for her living would react, that way she could avoid such scandals. So she only has to blame none other than herself. I'm pretty sure if this was about a guy sleeping around he wouldn- OH WAIT I forgot the drama about Miyano Mamoru some time ago, and that was because he and HIS WIFE had a baby. Gotta give a pat on the back of these crazy otaku fans. |
SoraKuroAug 14, 2011 1:40 PM
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SoraKuro said: It's completely unprofessional and bad for business. Would you not find it unprofessional if you worked a job with a 5 person crew and the one girl had slept with 3 of the other 4 members? To go about your job so unscrupulously is not acceptable in any field of work(unless you count the pornographic industry). It was bad enough that the company she worked for found it so unprofessional that they felt the need to fire her and her band.I don't get it... Even if she did sleep with almost all of her band members, it's not like she forced them into it, right? If she likes it and they enjoy it too, what's the problem? For me it's not a matter of being a slut or whatever. It's the arrogant and amateurish behavior she has exhibited. For one, somebody needs to tell her to shut that fucking twitter account down, it is a liability and nothing more. Second, she needs to stop blaming her manager, her agency and just about anything with 2 legs for all the reasons fans are upset with her. Third, she needs to keep her personal life exactly what it is, personal. Most of this tabloidish crap that has happened to her is self-inflicted by pictures taken by her or things she has said to the public. |
Defiance said: SoraKuro said: It's completely unprofessional and bad for business. Would you not find it unprofessional if you worked a job with a 5 person crew and the one girl had slept with 3 of the other 4 members? To go about your job so unscrupulously is not acceptable in any field of work(unless you count the pornographic industry). It was bad enough that the company she worked for found it so unprofessional that they felt the need to fire her and her band.I don't get it... Even if she did sleep with almost all of her band members, it's not like she forced them into it, right? If she likes it and they enjoy it too, what's the problem? For me it's not a matter of being a slut or whatever. It's the arrogant and amateurish behavior she has exhibited. For one, somebody needs to tell her to shut that fucking twitter account down, it is a liability and nothing more. Second, she needs to stop blaming her manager, her agency and just about anything with 2 legs for all the reasons fans are upset with her. Third, she needs to keep her personal life exactly what it is, personal. Most of this tabloidish crap that has happened to her is self-inflicted by pictures taken by her or things she has said to the public. I agree that it's unprofessional AND disgusting yes. But, for me, people's personal lives don't matter at all as long as that doesn't interfere with their work as in they don't bring their shit and emotional crap to the workplace (which she failed to do). Actually, I wouldn't even want to know about their relationships. But if the company knew about it, it's clear she was pretty open about it, which I think is wrong. Keep your private life private. But... In my previous post, I agreed to what you said after my little rant xD |
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| o-O; I just..learned this today. *shaking my head* |
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| For one, I liked her voice, be it in Haruhi or Fairy Tail. And I don't care at all about her personal life, or how she gain popularity. But then again, I don't blame people who hates her because of the way she acts. These people basically supports her. I can feel how is it to have a favorite people, and this favorite people doing what is considered bad. For example, let's say I like Britney Spears, and I found out that she act like a bitch and screwing her life, that would seriously upset me, and makes me hate her. There's a thin line between love and hate. |
| I understand that she does a lot of things which are considered to be bad isn't that how us humans are like becuase in this world we are still being developed and are still trying to be who we are now. Whether it'll be within the media or not. I can understand why most people dislike/hate her because the way she is. Sure she's like a drama queen or a bitch but that's her and she can be who she wants to be as it's her life and she can live the way she wants to be, as long as she knows what she's doing something that is right or wrong, (basically her responsibility), that is up to her but nobody else's. I heard from other people here that Aya is 23 and that surprised me as i never really knew that she was THAT young as i assumed she was in her 30's, which leads me to understand on how other people and the media view her, on her acts and reations the most. TBH, I really like Aya as she's a really good VA and singer IMO. To me i believe that when she interacts in the anime industry, i tend to think of her personality, voice and herself structed differently from one place to another, one time she can be a very strong, dependable and a mature woman who tries to help and care people but not from her own benefits alone, also at times she can be a very selfish brat and a nefarious queen who gets whatever she wants. However, there's more than meets the eye, she can actually be somewhat shy/timid, emotional and easily misunderstood and that's becuase in people's eyes she isn't really someone you can really trust or/and depend on that well become of her affected problems between herself and everybody else who knows her, until you get to know what's actually she really like, how she feels, etc, then you may not think of her as a bad person, depending on who she is inside. Note: This is me judging on her performance on characters from different animes and within the anime industry itself, as a whole so that you won't get confused on what i'm talking about. This is my specail dream. Whether this will be true or not but once I get a bit older and become a really good mangaka i was dreaming and hoping to myself that one day that Aya will be able to voice a few of my characters. |
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| She`s 23 years old, let her have some life, just becaus you don`t doesn`t mean others can`t :P She didn`t rape them. As long as it doesn`t affect her voice and such I couldn`t care less if she were to have sex with every single man in Japan :P If she did, the otakus wouldn`t be so jelous of the band members :P |
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| I think she just need some help getting some direction in her career. Hopefully this new agency "Grick" would help her out. |
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Des said: She`s 23 years old, let her have some life, just becaus you don`t doesn`t mean others can`t :P She didn`t rape them. As long as it doesn`t affect her voice and such I couldn`t care less if she were to have sex with every single man in Japan :P If she did, the otakus wouldn`t be so jelous of the band members :P No, when you decide to become a public icon, you no longer have access to a "life", at least not a private one anyway. Like someone said, its very unprofessional, and makes the company she worked with looks bad as well. She can have her life all she wants, no one is denying her that, but she can't expect to do what she wants to do, AND expect to keep having fans support her career when she does something they don't like, it doesn't work that way. Freedom or Fandom, there's always a choice. |
| ^The problem is the KIND of fans she has. Alright, you can't really have a life of your own anymore and in a sense you have to make some restrictions about how you live your life. But for a otaku, you can't even marry and have a son. How can you deal with such a ridiculous fandom? I'm not saying she was right or wrong, but her fandom isn't a normal. Unless you're a virgin until the day you die, you won't please them. |
| So it seems that Hirano has started on new gigs with her new agency.....lets hope she gets her shit together this time.... |
| Does anybody else NOT give a damn what she does in her personal life? I could care less, frankly all I care about is her voice work. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3soldiern said: Does anybody else NOT give a damn what she does in her personal life? I could care less, frankly all I care about is her voice work. That's because ALL you care about is that she outputs good material. The otaku on the other hand are LITERALLY supporting her career and putting money in her pockets, so they feel they have a right to give a damn. They are the ones buying her CDs, posters, books, and stuff like that. And they feel like she basically gives them a fuck you in return with her usual antics. Just how japanese fans are, you can't change that.. But its different when things get in the way of Business, which is the big issue here. She's making herself look very unprofessional, and that in turn make the agency she worked with looks bad, and could discourage new talent to want to work with them. |
Tenchi_Ryu said: insan3soldiern said: Does anybody else NOT give a damn what she does in her personal life? I could care less, frankly all I care about is her voice work. That's because ALL you care about is that she outputs good material. No matter if you buy everything Aya touches, some, or none this is the only thing that always matters and that's good VA. Otaku need to get out of the house and eat out for dinner or get a girlfriend. |
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Miya_F_Exia said: ^The problem is the KIND of fans she has. Alright, you can't really have a life of your own anymore and in a sense you have to make some restrictions about how you live your life. But for a otaku, you can't even marry and have a son. How can you deal with such a ridiculous fandom? I'm not saying she was right or wrong, but her fandom isn't a normal. Unless you're a virgin until the day you die, you won't please them. Her fandom is pretty normal, since she is part of something called Japanese idol culture. Since there isn't a Western counterpart to idols it's expected that people here don't understand what such thing entitles. What I find bizarre though, it's that people around here thinks that only anime/manga "otakus" are the ones that display such attitude, when idol culture is a Japanese mainstream phenomenon that has been around since the seventies. Also, what you are doing is judging the attitudes, values and behaviors of a sector of Japanese pop culture by measuring it in relation to Western standards, which can even be called a case of cultural bias or ethnocentric perspective. |
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| What exactly...are fan problems with Aya having a boyfriend? Does sex symbolize something bad in Japan? o-O And yet, in the West we get happy when celebs/notable people gets hitched? Not to mention, some do go on Twitter/Facebook/wherever and post about the unspeakable. I mean...we gotta date. And we all do get a bit jealous. Maybe this is taken way out of proportion. |
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ravagestorm said: Well Aya Hirano once said otakus(her fans) are creepy and she likes to date older men. And then Aya Hirano said she wanted to quit being a VA and decided to be a model or idol. Unfortunately, her swimsuit scandal(she wore the bra the wrong way)made her a laughingstock in Japan. And then, Aya blogged several articles which are obviously just trying to get some attention like she was "kidnapped" by a taxi driver, getting bald, etc. And then there were rumors that she was having multiple affairs with her bandmates(except the bassist). The agency heard about it and disbanded the group. So basically, otakus are mad at her because of her numerous screw ups and lack of respect to her fans. I'm not a fan. I just read those articles a few minutes ago at sankakucomplex.com I heard of the affiars with her band mates but false kidnapping? Pretending to go bald? Swimsuit scandal? I never heard of those. Wait sankakucomplex is like the unreliable tabloid of japanese otaku news. You can't really trust the articles in their as they twist the content to sensationalize the news. Either avoid it or read carefully , picking out fact from blown out fact. Can you post third part sources/articles behind these new scandals? |
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ravagestorm said: Kalamity-kun said: ravagestorm said: Well Aya Hirano once said otakus(her fans) are creepy and she likes to date older men. And then Aya Hirano said she wanted to quit being a VA and decided to be a model or idol. Unfortunately, her swimsuit scandal(she wore the bra the wrong way)made her a laughingstock in Japan. And then, Aya blogged several articles which are obviously just trying to get some attention like she was "kidnapped" by a taxi driver, getting bald, etc. And then there were rumors that she was having multiple affairs with her bandmates(except the bassist). The agency heard about it and disbanded the group. So basically, otakus are mad at her because of her numerous screw ups and lack of respect to her fans. I'm not a fan. I just read those articles a few minutes ago at sankakucomplex.com I heard of the affiars with her band mates but false kidnapping? Pretending to go bald? Swimsuit scandal? I never heard of those. Wait sankakucomplex is like the unreliable tabloid of japanese otaku news. You can't really trust the articles in their as they twist the content to sensationalize the news. Either avoid it or read carefully , picking out fact from blown out fact. Can you post third part sources/articles behind these new scandals? Yes some of their articles there are fabricated or made to troll people but some are legit. Ex. The bikini scandal was real because I saw it in a local news and there is also an article at sankakucomplex about an up and coming AV model that copied the reverse bra aka "Aya style" in one of her guesting. And Aya was also featured in a Japanese talk show because of that scandal. bikini scandal http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/09/04/the-bikini-accident-of-aya-hirano/ Just type Aya Hirano in sankakucomplex's search bar for her other escapades. Ahh...OUCH. Okay that bikini scandal was pretty bad. Also some of my respect for Sankakucomplex has been restored. OUCH. Bikini fail. Someone get a picture of Hirano Aya doing this. OTL |
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| Ooooooh. *Smacks her head, surprised* I guess I'll have to look into this. I think Aya had spread some cancer rumor scare too...wtf, is she being controlled into doing all of this. As for the..."Choke Bikini", I think she should've been a good sport and said "my bad' ;p and fixed herself up. |
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| What's wrong with her ? She is living her life like others celebrities but in Asia is not the same ground than in the USA … I don't like her voice acting so I couldn't care less but she has the right to live her life like she wants and the kissing pics DRAMA is ridiculous, she is gorgeous it's well-fortunate that she enjoys her status |
| That's the problem, you people keep trying to compare her action and the actions of her fans to American customs, and that's very incorrect. Japan has different ways of doing things, and quite frankly, this "american" celebrity lifestyle is one of those things thats NOT generally accepted. Its only out of proportion to you because its not that big of a deal HERE, it IS a big deal there though. In case you haven't noticed, Japan has a VERY strict structure about honor, self respect, and decent morals. This even transpires in anime, like how most shounen series always emphasize the importance of friendship, being honest and stuff like that. America on the other hand makes itself look very negative, look at our tv shows for example. Most watched stuff is ignorant and drama filled, Jersey Shore for example. Hell, you can literally get famous by doing something smut filled, like making a sex tape, or releasing naked pictures. So don't say "its not a big deal", because it IS a big deal in japanese customs. She is a VA, which is equal to being a movie star in the US. So its not exactly smart when you constantly have negative feedback from the masses, its not a good look, its the reason her previous company dropped her. You people keep saying "well as long as her voice is ok", no, its MORE than just her voice in japan. She's a icon, adored by some, sexually lusted by others. Like I said before, rubbing them the wrong way is not smart. |
AnnoKano said: Tenchi_Ryu said: So don't say "its not a big deal", because it IS a big deal in japanese customs. She is a VA, which is equal to being a movie star in the US. So its not exactly smart when you constantly have negative feedback from the masses, its not a good look, its the reason her previous company dropped her. Let's be honest; you don't have any idea what you're talking about, do you? Cool story bro Next time actually learn something before talking out your ass http://hkfilms.150m.com/Japanese/japaneseidols.htm |
Tenchi_RyuAug 31, 2011 3:52 PM
| No shit sherlock, a movie star is the closest thing our american standards can relate to in this situation.....this is common knowledge. I tried to show something to use as the closest possible comparison, And you still haven't shown me how I don't know what I'm talking about....other than getting a stick up your ass cause I said equal instead of possibly saying "closest". You gonna sue me now? |
Tenchi_RyuSep 1, 2011 6:28 PM
Tenchi_Ryu said: No shit sherlock, a movie star is the closest thing our american standards can relate to in this situation.....this is common knowledge. I tried to show something to use as the closest possible comparison, And you still haven't shown me how I don't know what I'm talking about....other than getting a stick up your ass cause I said equal instead of possibly saying "closest". You gonna sue me now? Hi my first post here: First, I'm gonna back you up. As I my self am Asian, i know the moral standards of the society and how it's strictness is. I fully agree with you on the idol matter, since it's true, idols are icons that are in a sense like politicians in the sense if they get in a sex scandal they get in trouble. The other guy has no ideal what he is saying |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Nobody was acting like an expert, its not a crime that people actually do know things from research. You're the one who replied to me in a negative tone. If you were just claiming that the two fill a similar role in society, is that not pointing out the obvious? That was the ENTIRE point of my statements. It was a reply to people claiming that it "wasn't a big deal" and "she has a life" remarks. I used movie star as a comparison because it would provide an understandable scenerio if they were in the same position. Like how if a movie star was having sex with co-workers, and always in negative tabloids, they would get the same bad publicity. But people were thinking that just because she is a Voice Actor, her actions wouldn't have these consequences. The sad part is that you targeted on the part that wasn't even my main point and really not even important. It was just a reference to help get the message across. The point wasn't "what is a Japanese Icon", it was how doing what she does has effect on her popularity. It DOESN'T MATTER how big or small her fanbase is, the OPINIONS of it is what's important, that was my entire point, and that's why I started the argument with you, cause THIS is what I thought you were replying to as no idea what I'm talking about. The difference between movie star and Idol isn't what I'm focusing on, and you keep referring to this specific topic, which is why I said the stick in your ass. You literally took ONE SENTENCE out of my entire paragraph, the LEAST important sentence at that and ran with it. Its the same reason GodlyKyon replied the way he did, because he see what I'm trying to say, how Aya is at self fault for the negative publicity, and it seemed like you were saying that's wrong. |
Tenchi_RyuSep 2, 2011 8:20 AM
| I did not read what you wrote to him. But I'm seeing your point now....(also I am Chinese, which have the same moral value. Making relationship is a big deal) it could, however be only a mistake as American don't have the idol worship as japan. His main point still stands, which you ignored by only pointing out a reference mistake; aya hirano wad acting stupid to get publicity and eventually got fired. Not that she was an excellent singer, she was a MUCH better in seiyuu acting |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| Apparaently not...... What she just said on her 24th birthday. |
| "Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys |
| It's funny, I was pretty much thinking everything jmal said in his last post. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
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