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Aug 8, 2011 11:37 AM

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I'm all for it.

Haha, that 's hilarious XD! I laughed so hard when I saw Kotetsu on that I had to pause video.
 
Aug 8, 2011 2:31 PM

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longshoremanX said:
so lets just take a second and look at how screwed kotetsu currently is

-no partner
-his powers are almost gone entirly
-his job of hero TV has been staged this entire time
-lunatic is out being a his name
-ourobos isnt gone
-maverick is evil and has access to hundred upon hundreds of criminals to do whatever he tells em to

yah go sign your life insurance papers fats kotetsu


Ourboros was never gone, but maverick doesn't control them. he just supplied them technology and is possibly a member.

Tiger's career hasn't really been staged. before this he was mostly a screw up and destroying property all the time. his accomplishments are his own, Bunny's success though has pretty much been orchestrated by Maverick.
his situation with his family could also be a big problem.

especially if there's a 2nd season I'd like to see some villain use his family against him and he could impress hid daughter and she could see who he is finally.
 
Aug 8, 2011 5:37 PM

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Cydonia said:
And Kotetsu bitchslapping Bunny - don't know how to react to that, for some reason I expected a punch.


Me too. A man slapping another looks terrible.

But the timing was good. Bunny was acting like a bitch.



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Plus I understand the concept of being partners and having trust but I do not like how they have Kotetsu picking Barnaby and his responsibilities as a hero over his own child. He's known Barnaby for what, a year now? Kaede's already lost her mom and her grandma has been raising her and when his daughter really, really needs him, he goes back on his word to help a man who didn't even like or trust him in the beginning. Friends are very valuable but family is more important especially a parent-child relationship.


It's a common trope. The guy is going to retire, but he has that last jo he MUST finish before he can go. Also, it's the bromance theme of loyalty. And it's not like Kaede is in danger. And she has his family there.

I can understand. Maybe it's a guy thing. We grow up being prepared to abandon our families and die for our land/duty/honor..

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......so why didn't maverick just tinker with bunny's parents' memories instead of killing them if he had that kind of power in the first place? :I


Bunny's father was already at the phone. As we saw, his power needs physical contact and a certain amount of time to work. Also, they were two and weren't drugged, like Bunny. And when you get someone unprepared it's more likely for this person to react instinctively.

The contradictions aren't that serious, because he could frame someone for selling nano-metal tech to villains and Bunny's parents would never know.
 
Aug 9, 2011 5:09 AM

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Uriel1988 said:
Was anyone else a little baffled by how easily Maverick confessed to the whole thing? It basically went like this:

Barnaby: You killed my parents!
Maverick: No, I didn't.
Barnaby: Yes, you did!
Maverick: Okay, you got me.


duhhhh its because he can easily alter the memories of barnaby later on dude so confessing his crime is no problem for him!!!
 
Aug 9, 2011 5:55 AM

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I KNEW HE DID IT, I KNEW IT!

that was predictable, lol.. it had to be him.. I'm curious how it will develop after this though.. It looks like Bunny has crashed pretty hard.. Poor Bunny! :(



Yeah I kinda felt it because he looks like an evil guy who hide with a smile

 
Aug 9, 2011 3:24 PM

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wow, BIG TWIST OR WHAT!?!
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Aug 9, 2011 3:38 PM

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Maverick.. just looks evil. Look at dat bulge of a mole on his forehead. DAT BULGE

The mole was telling him to do evil things. SILENCE YOU FOOL!


This!

Does anyone else besides me feel bad that Tiger keeps getting chewed out by his daughter every episode?

The revelation about Mr. Maverick is definitely a game changer for me. Is it safe to assume almost all of the crimes (except Jack) we created by Hero TV?
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Aug 9, 2011 9:40 PM

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Wow. I suspected Maverick but to see this revelation was intense! I think he ended up killing Mr. And Mrs. Brooks because it seems his memory erasing power can be broken. Evidence being Barnaby himself. This is probably not the first time he's realtered Barnaby's memory after he's gained it back. And he probably altered Samantha's as well. I sure hope he doesn't hurt her now XD.

I am just a tad annoyed by how ambitious the series started out and now most of the other characters seem to be forgotten. I love this twisting plot and shocker revelations, but I miss Fire Emblem and the others! A few seconds every other episode isn't enough.
 
Aug 9, 2011 9:53 PM

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DaiTomodachi said:
LadyBolet said:
d4n13lr0x said:
Maverick.. just looks evil. Look at dat bulge of a mole on his forehead. DAT BULGE

The mole was telling him to do evil things. SILENCE YOU FOOL!


This!

Does anyone else besides me feel bad that Tiger keeps getting chewed out by his daughter every episode?

The revelation about Mr. Maverick is definitely a game changer for me. Is it safe to assume almost all of the crimes (except Jack) we created by Hero TV?
yah hero TV has been all staged the entire time, even jake was said to be hero TV if i remember correctly
 
Aug 10, 2011 10:21 AM

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ButerflySamurai said:
Wow. I suspected Maverick but to see this revelation was intense! I think he ended up killing Mr. And Mrs. Brooks because it seems his memory erasing power can be broken. Evidence being Barnaby himself. This is probably not the first time he's realtered Barnaby's memory after he's gained it back. And he probably altered Samantha's as well. I sure hope he doesn't hurt her now XD.

I am just a tad annoyed by how ambitious the series started out and now most of the other characters seem to be forgotten. I love this twisting plot and shocker revelations, but I miss Fire Emblem and the others! A few seconds every other episode isn't enough.
yah the side charecters arent getting enough screen time anymore, it doesnt help that the worst one is getting the most screen time(blue rose)
 
Aug 10, 2011 11:03 PM

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I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?
 
Aug 11, 2011 1:05 AM

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purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


That's a good question, also while we're at it, will they ever mention edward again?
 
Aug 11, 2011 3:53 AM

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I KNEW IT!

sooo much Kotetsu X Barnaby in this episode :P

Didn't catch that Maverik drugged Barnaby; gonna have to rewatch this episode.

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I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?

I always thought it was super strength.. not as super as K&Bs, but more permanent.
 
Aug 11, 2011 4:35 AM

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Holy shit, I totally did not see that coming.
 
Aug 11, 2011 11:55 AM

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This episode was awesome. Maverick's gonna be a really cool villain.
 
Aug 11, 2011 6:19 PM

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CCZilla said:
This episode was awesome. Maverick's gonna be a really cool villain.
yah he sprobably the most dangerous out of all 3 too(orouboros, lunatic, maverick)

i mean the dude can do whatever he wants, hes been staging hero TV this entire time, the guys dangerous as hell and thats not even taking into mind his power. let sjust say i look forword to seeing this bastard die
 
Aug 11, 2011 8:11 PM

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purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


Wikipedia says his power is invulnerability. Though I don't know how accurate that is.
 
Aug 11, 2011 9:51 PM

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DarthObsidian said:
purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


Wikipedia says his power is invulnerability. Though I don't know how accurate that is.


Yeah, I always though it was endurance + strength but more endurance and less strength than the hundred power, he has been showing glowing a couple of times, against the backstage thief his face and eyes were shown while using his Next ability.
 
Aug 11, 2011 10:10 PM

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AZ_VAL said:
DarthObsidian said:
purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


Wikipedia says his power is invulnerability. Though I don't know how accurate that is.


Yeah, I always though it was endurance + strength but more endurance and less strength than the hundred power, he has been showing glowing a couple of times, against the backstage thief his face and eyes were shown while using his Next ability.
Now thats solved we should find out what scarf girls power is.....jk
 
Aug 12, 2011 5:10 PM

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I loved this episode and I love Tiger and Bunny. It's the best show this season. I just hope we get a Sky High-centric spin-off when it's all over. Walking his dog, falling in love with robots.

I was pretty certain that Maverick was evil, but for a while I thought he had some sort of NEXT power that let him tamper with other NEXTs' powers, and he was behind Tiger's abilities diminishing. But now that the truth is out I guess Kotetsu really is losing his powers, and I kind of want to see him go back home.

I am a bit disappointed by how much the supporting cast (especially Kung Fu Kid) has fallen into the background during these last few episodes, and I hope they can turn that around now that we're at the endgame. I also want a Fire Emblem spotlight episode. We know he's the boss of his own company, he's the flaming gay stereotype and he has an adorably close friendship with Kotetsu, but that's all.
 
Aug 12, 2011 9:43 PM

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longshoremanX said:
AZ_VAL said:
DarthObsidian said:
purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


Wikipedia says his power is invulnerability. Though I don't know how accurate that is.


Yeah, I always though it was endurance + strength but more endurance and less strength than the hundred power, he has been showing glowing a couple of times, against the backstage thief his face and eyes were shown while using his Next ability.
Now thats solved we should find out what scarf girls power is.....jk


She is the one controlling Maverick, her 2 moles overpowers Maverick's
 
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AZ_VAL said:
longshoremanX said:
AZ_VAL said:
DarthObsidian said:
purplegem7 said:
I still wonder what Rock Bison's ability is... turn his body into rock? They never really mentioned it did they?


Wikipedia says his power is invulnerability. Though I don't know how accurate that is.


Yeah, I always though it was endurance + strength but more endurance and less strength than the hundred power, he has been showing glowing a couple of times, against the backstage thief his face and eyes were shown while using his Next ability.
Now thats solved we should find out what scarf girls power is.....jk


She is the one controlling Maverick, her 2 moles overpowers Maverick's
.....shiet, well i think we can all agree that scarf girl si the most inspirational and emotionally moving charecter in anime while still managing to be the greatest villian in the history of existance
 
Aug 12, 2011 9:54 PM

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I loved this episode and I love Tiger and Bunny. It's the best show this season. I just hope we get a Sky High-centric spin-off when it's all over. Walking his dog, falling in love with robots.

I was pretty certain that Maverick was evil, but for a while I thought he had some sort of NEXT power that let him tamper with other NEXTs' powers, and he was behind Tiger's abilities diminishing. But now that the truth is out I guess Kotetsu really is losing his powers, and I kind of want to see him go back home.

I am a bit disappointed by how much the supporting cast (especially Kung Fu Kid) has fallen into the background during these last few episodes, and I hope they can turn that around now that we're at the endgame. I also want a Fire Emblem spotlight episode. We know he's the boss of his own company, he's the flaming gay stereotype and he has an adorably close friendship with Kotetsu, but that's all.
......who the hell is kung fu kid? you mean dragon kid?

really shows how much you miss her when you cant even remember her name
 
Aug 12, 2011 11:02 PM

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Yeah, see? I can't even remember her name correctly! THAT's how absent she's been.
 
Aug 12, 2011 11:04 PM

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000Hopscotch said:
Yeah, see? I can't even remember her name correctly! THAT's how absent she's been.
to be honest i dont remember her being there in the first place, and i mean the show is called tiger and bunny, its not really like the other heroes are that important, mabey when we get the big finale to take down maverick theyl get more screen time, though the less blue rose screen time the better
 
Aug 13, 2011 10:21 AM

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I've been sensing that Maverick has something to do with Bunny's parents but to think that he's a NEXT didn't crossed my mind. =,=

Tiger was really funny. He says serious things then do some jokes. lol

Things are getting exciting again.. :D
 
Aug 18, 2011 12:13 PM

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Late watching FTW. Maverick totally seemed suspicious but didn't think he'd be a NEXT! O_O His powers seem like Charles (Lelouch's dad) from Code Geass huh? :P
OMG Barnaby though. I dunno whether I like his new attitude or not lol. Wouldn't have expected him to CRY ... Poor Kotetsu too D: Uhm ... oh and Kotetsu slapped him lol D:
 
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I was a bit annoyed at Barnaby turning (back) into a complete b*tch this episode. I was also surprised that Kotetsu gave him a SLAP and not a punch. What the hell? Barnaby's not a whiny teenage Newtype; he's a grown man. He needs a closed fisted correction to his attitude. Oh well. Besides that I wasn't surprised that Mr. Maverick was the mastermind behind it all. He was too close to the family, his alibi and attitude were too perfect, too. Even worse, Barnaby's about to get some special alone time with the now very creepy old man.

 
Aug 23, 2011 2:40 PM

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People already assumed that Maverick had something to do with it. I just thought that the writers might surprise us again. But hey, at least he's not the big bad right?
that would be too cliche.

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......so why didn't maverick just tinker with bunny's parents' memories instead of killing them if he had that kind of power in the first place? :I

I want to know too. Maybe he panicked and didn't think it through?
Or maybe he knew they were too smart and would figure it out again eventually.

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wao. o 3 o

I laughed so hard at this :'D
 
Aug 26, 2011 12:18 PM

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Damn, I was not expecting a Memento-esque situation. This show just keeps getting better.
 
Aug 30, 2011 9:03 AM

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Yappari. Yappari.

Oh, and a lot of tears this episode huh? I expect more to come, though, looking at the preview.

When the slap came I unconsciously yelled OYAJI SLAP for God knows why. One reason I thought why he didn't punch: he's a father. You just don't punch kids. You slap 'em with all those experiences and manliness you got.

I love it when the plot is focusing, so as much as I like Blue Rose or Sky high or Origami this one's better be finished first. But somehow I get the feeling the very little slot that's been given to them will be the only one they'll ever have...
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Tiger antics are getting annoying, he kept on using the generic trope "keeping his problems to himself, so not to trouble others", but this trope never successful and leads to more problems.

Tiger should just tell the truth to his partner and daughter about his situation as a hero and his powers are fading.
 
Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM

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I knew it! :0
oh and kotetsu on the robotic tiger is awesome :'D
 
Nov 11, 2011 7:27 AM

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busters said:
......so why didn't maverick just tinker with bunny's parents' memories instead of killing them if he had that kind of power in the first place? :I
This is the question I want answered. Did he just freak out or did they already know about his ability and how to counter it or something? Anyone got a better idea?
That's an easy one. He could alter their memories, but if they noticed he was supplying Ouroboros with weapons, they'd notice it again. Hence, if he had done that, he wouldn't be able to keep doing his thing, which wouldn't have been 'convenient' for him.
 
Dec 4, 2011 2:37 PM

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Oh Bunny, you DRAMA-QUEEN!
Is it that hard to admit that Kotetsu didn't want to quit his work because he wanted to help you first. Why invent such unbelievable story? You know Tiger better than that! Tss!
 
Dec 27, 2011 9:07 PM

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Was anybody actually surprised it was Maverick? I guessed that a million eps ago. But wtf, why would he need to kill Bunny's parents if he could just rewrite their memories? Surely he could have prevented them from meddling with his plans without having to kill them. Logic fail.

Anyway, all this ep did was make we think Bunny is an uke. X3 So much crying!
 
Dec 28, 2011 9:58 AM

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I couldn't help laughing at various moments during this episode :D Them going to re-live Christmas Eve 21 years ago feeling more like a date instead, lolBunny pose, Bunny suddenly collapsing (felt so random), Tiger on that tigermobile, and Tiger SLAP.

Aaaanyway I already knew of Maverick being the murderer beforehand and what a cool villain he turned out to be. Those dead eyes of his. Even though I dislike Bunny for being a whiny bitch I really felt bad for him at the end. Poor guy :( I already know of a few other things that happen so I'm looking forward to seeing it all play out.

Also Tiger needs to stop hiding everything and tell the truth. Both to his daughter and Bunny. It's annoying :|

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But wtf, why would he need to kill Bunny's parents if he could just rewrite their memories? Surely he could have prevented them from meddling with his plans without having to kill them. Logic fail.
Because Maverick also wanted Bunny to himself, to raise him as a strong hero for the TV program, and he probably figured the best way to do so was to get rid of the parents who might just get in the way. The murder obviously wasn't just about them screwing with his plans.

And Maverick may or may not have thought of it at the time, but the murder of Bunny's parents made for a good motivational tool to talk him into becoming a hero. Well played~
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Bunny just got mindfucked. Literally.

As for killing Bunny's parents, I'm pretty sure Maverick got too emotional. Thinking people have that much foresight just makes them less real, imo.

Having his power to rewrite memories is just a cheap plot device though. Code Geass pulled the samething, too. He could just say he drugged Bunny so his memory was lost. It's not uncommon for people who forgotten the event to forge their own memories later on.

Then he could just drug Bunny again instead of this cheap power to rewrite memories.

Bunny's repeated dialogue about trust was overly annoying as well. I know he's pissed and all but damn, he almost used the same lines before they were all buddies. Kotetsu might be stubborn to keep secrets to himself, but damn, Bunny is so much immature.

Bad turn of events in this episode. Imo.
 
Mar 24, 2012 4:39 PM

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At first I was all weirded out by how that guy confessed everything so easily lol but the whole thing changed when the mind manipulation thing was mentioned. That kind of made sense... even then, poor Barnaby, how frustrating |:
 
May 1, 2012 8:02 AM

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I really like the one-off crime episodes, but the overarching segments are so contrived it hurts this series big time.
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Aug 18, 2012 5:25 PM

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My guess on Mr Maverick is he can only affect one individual at a time If Kotetsu had been there with him, different ball game.
 
Aug 29, 2012 5:02 AM

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Uriel1988 said:
Was anyone else a little baffled by how easily Maverick confessed to the whole thing? It basically went like this:

Barnaby: You killed my parents!
Maverick: No, I didn't.
Barnaby: Yes, you did!
Maverick: Okay, you got me.


Haha lol If u say it like that its kinda funny

Maveric u bastard! didnt anyone tell it isnt nice to mess with other peoples memory ????
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I had a feeling Maverick was behind the murder of Barnaby's parents and altered his memory somehow. Now you have to feel he would try to go after Kotetsu since he was with Barnaby at the hospital.
 
Oct 25, 2012 7:33 PM

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Oh my god, this whole trust issue again.
I'm going to shit over everything the producers love.
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Jul 3, 2013 6:43 PM

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man why can't Kotetsu trust Barnaby fully?

come on you've been together for awhile now, it's better to stick together all the way in the end.

i knew it was some sort of memory manipulation.

and wow i freaking knew it was Maverick, since he keep appearing in all pictures.

i really doubt he was THAT close compared to his parents or aunt samantha.

Maverick killing Barnaby's parents reminds me of how Solidus killed Raiden's parents when it was revealed in MGS2.

he wanted to show if there is someone that created them, just as Maverick killed them to see if Barnaby had the potential to become a hero.

it's up to you Kotetsu to save Barnaby!!



just as the series is getting excellent, there's only 5 episodes left T____T
 
Jul 6, 2013 5:11 AM

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Oh god- this episode had alot of Barnaby collapsing- I can't help myself but think it's rather cute...Kotetsu and Barnaby-

And that slap got me sighing all the way.

I wish Kotetsu can save Barnaby from Mervick's evil clutches! I always thought the whole story was abit messed up, ever since Barnaby said how Mervick took care of him and all....He didn't seem sincere.

I kinda hate how this series doesn't have enough mystery and things are abit obvious- but I still love it anyway.

And I expect to watch it till the end!
 
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Idk how to do quotes but:

"DarthObsidian said:

Maverick drugged his tea. The pen he had in his pocket before he poured the tea was gone after he poured it, and there was a brief shot of the pen next to the teapot leaking a liquid. I'm guessing the effects of the drug combined with his confused state kept Barnaby from doing anything.


Ah! I just attributed it to Barnaby being in a severe state of shock, but this makes a lot more sense!
Read more at http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=313597&show=20#wcDUJtoaUL38stAb.99"

Nonono you guys! He used his powers to get away from Kotetsu, remember? And since he and Kotetsu have the same powers, that means Bunny can't reuse his powers until one hour has passed, and I'm pretty sure Bunny escaping to Maverick and their talk wasn't one hour
 
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AHHHHHHH It was the old guy!!!!
i feel bad for Bunny, he was his second dad :'(
 
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Poor Kotetsu, he means well, but it seems like he's always in between a rock and a hard place.
I KNEW IT WAS MAVERICK! Never trust anyone with a mole on his forehead!
 
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Curse you evil Maverick >:( why dd you have to kill Bunny's parents .
and he's got a really dangerous NEXT ability too. it looks Like Tiger is going to have to save the day.
 
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