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omg what was that? o_O
Yeah, finnaly we are getting to some realy bad things and this show starts being more and more interesting.
MOAR HARDER!

I kinda hate this anime. It's really stupid. What kinda guy is so inconsiderate? If I met a guy like that, dating him or not, I would tell him off so hard that he would die by my accusing words xD.

This is interesting, but I go for more action-y shows or nice drama, like Clannad (I keep comparing him to Tomoya and get so angry (Their hair is the same color :3), so I think I'm gonna drop this anime. WAY too perverted.

Meh regardless of Sekai's feelings, she's definately comming across to me as a slut. I mean, how can anyone justify "OH I know you're with this girl and I set you up, but let me kiss you and have you touch my chest".

As far as Makoto, I would wager most guys would honestly do what he did around that age. If a girl says hey wanna touch my chest not a whole lot are gonna say no, when they're frustrated with their current situation/curious. Not to mention his girlfriend (who isn't in the wrong for wanting to take it slow), can't explain herself or speak her mind, so he seems to think she doesn't want him to touch her at all...or atleast that's the impression I got...Really it's a huge clusterfuck, that's the only way to put it...

Portraying pure human ugliness/lust, this really shouldn't anger people as it is.

On a side note, Sekai really should sing the entire opening...

its just a bit boring this anime.. each episode, not much actually happens....

but i prefer sekai, kotonoha is an annoying bitch

10x Facepalms >_<

omg! a boy touched his girlfriend, someone call the cops!!!This episode was beyond awkward.

At this point I hate every character
Sekai: so you make yourself a bitch instead of making a move on your love who is obviously reachable?
Makoto: why don't you break up with Katsura and date Sekai, the girl you have fun with and you actually like?
Katsura: you are not romantic, you'r a closet case lesbian.
This relationship was bad from the start, it's not working out, they should simply brake up.Instead everyone is just forcing it for no reason.

Despite all this I like the show :D The tension is building up. I just hope the suspicious red eye girl kills everyone >:(

That just didn't make sense at all. Special training? Hell, I wish I had that but that was ridiculously unbelievable. And Itou is still an idiot. FFFUUUUU

lol, I think I'm gonna end my rewatching here. I don't want to rage like I did back in the day.

My 9/10 stays.

I really don't get all the hate on Matako...

He never raped anybody, and never tried to make an advance on anyone but his girlfriend. Even when he did make an advance, he stopped himself and apologized whenever he did something Katsura didn't like, and tries his best to restrict himself from doing it again. That being said, he is pretty dense.

Sekai invited him to "special training", and told him to touch her chest. That isn't rape, that's her exploiting his situation. He is frustrated because he doesn't know what Katsura wants (because she is too shy to tell him), and is misinterpreting a lot of what Katsura says because she isn't being open about anything. When he told Sekai about it, she took the opportunity to invite him to "special training".

Things could change in later episodes, but as of right now I'm blaming Sekai, not Matako. After all, Sekai is the one who is responsible for this whole situation.

EDIT: All it took was episode 5 to change my opinion. I hate Matoka now aswell.

LOL he's pissing me off too.

Clearly Sekai also has a thing for Matako or she wouldn't have offered to help him to such a degree to begin with.
Hmm...obviously we have something to look forward to....

+1.

Man, this episode... Makoto is the suckiest character out there, and Sekai is being really silly to fall in love with him... Now I feel bad about Kotonoha too(c'mon, Makoto expects her to sex him while they've just gone to highschool? real..), but I still feel worse about Sekai.. I think she maybe loves Makoto more than even Kotonoha, and still she's just stealing kisses and touches with him, while she's not giving way to her true feelings. For me she's the best character in this show.

Nice episode, that was quite some special training :p Though I feel quite sad for the girl and her feelings toward him, maybe later we'll see some change?

This show's really keeping me interested. I think it's because we are used to seeing faithful anime protagonist in anime and seeing something different is interesting

I feel bad for both girls for falling in love with an idiot like Makoto.

Btw, I still prefer Sekai.

Dumb episode.
Makoto is a newb at realtionships.
2/5

Ok 2 things.

1. What actually happened? Did they actually do anything or did he just get to second base or something?

2. So much wierd immaturity in this thread. IDK whats up with this culture, but really if a girl takes a guy up to a roof and lets him touch her, and he actually does it, that doesn't make him perverted.

Seriously, the replies in this thread make it seem like having consentual sex with someone makes you a rapist. Wake up.

Makoto is really unbelievably dense, lol. He legit didn't even seem to REALISE that he was cheating, and that that was bad. It's a shame they both like him so much! Sekai may be taking "control" of the situation and she's in the wrong too since Kotonoha is supposed to be her friend, but they're really both getting played by an idiot.

Son of a bitch, that makato. I seriously hate him