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View Poll Results: Blood-C Episode 4 Discussion
5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
38 26.95%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
30 21.28%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
33 23.40%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
19 13.48%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
21 14.89%
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07-28-11, 11:22 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Saya doesn't understand the meaning to what Shinichiro asked about "like", but she's serious about defeating old monsters. Even her expression got serious when singing her song.
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07-28-11, 11:30 AM

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It was an okay episode. This show has me thinking everyone but Saya is a monster or something though.
 
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07-28-11, 11:47 AM

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It was an okay episode. This show has me thinking everyone but Saya is a monster or something though.


Gee you think? what could have given it away? The horribly cliched secluded village, the creepy cliched father, saya's idiotic character that makes no sense or about a dozens of anvils the show dropped that this is wrong place?



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Anyway, another crappy episode.

Characters still flat as sticks and as complex as firstgrader's mind, the mood shifts have shitty execution and Saya is still annoying girl with stupid hair.

Careful, BloodC, your 5 episode-till-i-drop limit is running out.

1/5
 
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07-28-11, 12:29 PM

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I always find myself drifting off by the ending theme then waking up when Mawaru Penguindrum starts. A sign, perhaps.

If you're finding Blood-C so trying, you may want to rethink your 5-episode-till-drop policy, Fai. It doesn't seem to be doing you any favours.
 
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07-28-11, 12:46 PM

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*rages wildly as Saya yet again sings her shitty song*
Please, stop it already.

Oh, crap. I forgot how Blood-C works exceptionally well as sleeping pills.
Damn, it's too early to be tired now.

And isn't it interesting how Saya didn't find it in the least when the previous week's monster killed a civilian, but today she couldn't even cut the enemy because he held a civilian in the way.

Oh well, at least them twins are still somewhat appealing. Unlike just about everything else.
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07-28-11, 12:46 PM

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Since last episode I am totally RAGE for what those monster do to the humans in the spoiler
we are fucking what? Cattle to them? Well screw that shit! I am so Saya cutting them into pieces. On top of that those monsters are super gross although that did not compare to last episode’s bloody gore Saya. Not only are those monsters gross but seems the 2 that are not like bird-man can spew out acid in the spoiler
with rather really nasty acid wounds. Despite all that I loved the following,

Could it be Saya’s mother? That is killing monsters. Loved it when Saya turned her eyes into red ones and I liked a lot this pose of hers.

The other part that was nice is Tokizane x Saya in the following,

Considering how painful of a landing she did on Tokizane here, it’s no surprise it was super funny. I loved the picnic Saya had with Tokizane in the spoiler
it was nice.

  • The action was top notch again and much better but less gruesome than last week. Regardless it was really nice in the spoiler
    with blood flying everywhere once again and more humans being dead, it sure raises the toll considering last episode. When that bird’s head went flying, I was so happy, it’s incredible. This shit bird bastard killed 2 humans and I don’t take that!

  • According to the following spoiler
    we have a first 2 censors mostly due to gore and violence. Ban restrictions? Well they are there.
I don’t understand why people bitch at this series but I am totally OK with it. I find nothing wrong and in that I am glad I did not check out Blood+ yet. Perhaps in the future but let me say to you all I feel good not having seen Blood+ before this. It sure causes me less anger. However I fucking pissed at last episode’s human loss and this one too. In that I have one last message for the monsters:
Hey you little shit heads! You want us as food? Well we want you dead and your race! So fuck off and die now! Thank you!
Damn fucking shit monsters ain’t going to eat my brothers and sisters. Fuck them for what they did this episode and last episode as well as future episodes.

There I said it and feel better.
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07-28-11, 12:56 PM

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Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.
 
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07-28-11, 1:12 PM

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Yumekichi11 said:


Could it be Saya’s mother?

Holy shit.
 
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missdeep said:
Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.


In this case though, watching B+ would only make a person realize just how Crappy BloodC is(hey maybe thats what C stands for!)
 
07-28-11, 1:27 PM

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Fai said:
In this case though, watching B+ would only make a person realize just how Crappy BloodC is(hey maybe thats what C stands for!)


Perhaps, but I wouldn't exactly call Blood+ a magnum opus either.
 
07-28-11, 2:01 PM

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+Saya and Last Vamp Saya are a lot closer to each other than C Saya is to either one.

And about C Saya's personality... do people actually go for this sort of stuff? Seriously, like some people (notably 2ch-ers) would be like 'lol she's cute" or "lol Saya's song" but from my point of view C Saya's character is extremely unconvincing and more annoying than anything else.

Finally, it was not obvious that everyone in town might be a monster, don't kid yourself. You might have run a list of speculations in your head regarding what direction this show would go, but there was nothing in the earlier episodes that provided any good leads or foreshadowing clues to suggest that everyone in town is a monster. That's, in fact, one of the shows that was poorly done with regards to this show - it appeared to be redundant crap, not something actually engaging.
 
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+1 for fortelling that some random innocent human the viewers don't care about will die each episode

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1/5


I personally think you gave this episode 2 points too many.
 
07-28-11, 2:21 PM

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foxnewsnetwork said:
+Saya and Last Vamp Saya are a lot closer to each other than C Saya is to either one...


I wouldn't say +Saya and Last Vamp Saya are that similar, but they're thankfully quite far removed from Kisaragi Saya, at least.

The only thing I picked up on during the first three episodes was a pervasive feeling that I am wasting my life. In all honesty though, the storytelling in this series is heavily flawed. The show seems to cut to shots of noodle people staring or singing or singing and staring instead of trying to present a cohesive backdrop for later revelations. While I can sense what they're trying to do (in terms of creating a disjointed narrative) that doesn't make the overall package any less alienating to the casual viewer.
 
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missdeep said:
Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.
Well it sure looks like it did to some people who have seen Blood+ is what I get the impression from comments of episodes 2 & 3.
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missdeep said:
Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.


In this case though, watching B+ would only make a person realize just how Crappy BloodC is(hey maybe thats what C stands for!)
Like I mentioned above that's why in a way why I am happy.

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missdeep said:

The only thing I picked up on during the first three episodes was a pervasive feeling that I am wasting my life. In all honesty though, the storytelling in this series is heavily flawed. The show seems to cut to shots of noodle people staring or singing or singing and staring instead of trying to present a cohesive backdrop for later revelations. While I can sense what they're trying to do (in terms of creating a disjointed narrative) that doesn't make the overall package any less alienating to the casual viewer.


Agreed. Even the most epic story can be turned into crap when told poorly. Thus while we don't know if Blood C story is any good (since we still haven't gotten there yet -_-), it's safe to say it is definitely being told like crap. Whoever is doing the story-boarding and series composition for this show should consider not sucking so much.
 
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Well it sure looks like it did to some people who have seen Blood+ is what I get the impression from comments of episodes 2 & 3.


All the Blood titles cover similar themes and star a schoolgirl named Saya who kills things with a sword, but each stands alone. It's unsurprising that people who've seen Blood+ will relate that experience to the one they're having now as they watch Blood-C. The same happens for a variety of franchises, particularly ones that repeatedly cover similar ideas.

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Agreed. Even the most epic story can be turned into crap when told poorly.


Exactly. It's not just one area of the storytelling that's failing either. I mean, some shows might have terrible pacing but a solid script helps them compensate for such a flaw (and vice-versa). With Blood-C not only is the pacing incomprehensibly bad, the script is trite and the story itself seems determined to focus on everything but the actual plot. I don't doubt that there's some reasoning behind this, but it really doesn't matter when the resulting product is almost unwatchable as a result.

I'm interested to see if the manga suffers from similar issues. The first two chapters seemed to follow the first two anime episodes fairly closely, but I'd like to see if it can shake off some of the issues the anime has. I'll have to report back after I pick up my copy today (my hopes aren't that high though).
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07-28-11, 3:18 PM

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*rages wildly as Saya yet again sings her shitty song*
Please, stop it already.

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07-28-11, 4:04 PM

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Someone please shoot Saya already. She is so annoying. her song is so crappy.

anyway, it was a better ep than the previous ones. It was an okay ep, i hope they improve next ep.

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Anyone else noticed the Modoki Mokona in her lunch :D?
 
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missdeep said:
Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.
Well it sure looks like it did to some people who have seen Blood+ is what I get the impression from comments of episodes 2 & 3.
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missdeep said:
Yumekichi11 I don't think it would matter if you watch Blood+ before this, after this or at all. The titles within the Blood franchise are not interconnected so watching one shouldn't lessen the impact of another.


In this case though, watching B+ would only make a person realize just how Crappy BloodC is(hey maybe thats what C stands for!)
Like I mentioned above that's why in a way why I am happy.


Not really, Blood-C is so much better than Blood+, but then again you have to understand that this anime is much closer to a CLAMP manga than a title from the Blood "franchise", except for the main concept, being : Saya, a vampire, exterminates chiropterans for the count of humans while being despised and feared/used by some of them.

Honestly, I first watched Blood : The Last Vampire back in the days when it was first released and found the movie totally overrated, mainly because of its trite script and the action overdose. Then I watched Blood+ when it was released too and found it plain bad because the plot goes nowhere, the characters are utterly undevelopped and uninteresting and the direction atrocious except for the Russia arc which is two levels above all the other arcs in the series and the France arc which is just about average. At the time everyone that watched this series found it mediocre at beat, bad most of the time, but it seems that all the hate was lost in time and now it is considered a relatively good show - thing it never was. If you want proof watch it again and cry. And I don't even speak about the live-action movie, which is just utter crap made by one of Luc Besson's lackeys. That's why I've always and I still believe Blood is not a good franchise but this new anime really piques my curiosity because it finally goes back to the roots (namely Blood : The Last Vampire) in terms of gruesomeness/horror and introduces a slice-of-life approach that was present at the very beginning of Blood+ and weirdly disapeared after the first half-season, mixed with a CLAMPish mystery/folklore atmosphere that meshes very well with the background of the title. So for now, Blood-C is far, far better than Plus (not counting that the direction is finally decent which makes a huge difference), and even though I understand the character of Saya-C can put some people off, remember that it could be worst, she could have no character (B:TLV) or be a whiny little "Shinjiesque" brat (B+) so I'd rather have the new one

On top of that, I think we should let this series some time since the first big development revealing Saya's powers hasn't happened yet and it will change a lot of things just like it did in Blood+ (or not). In this case, I guess her foster father will die and Fumito will betray her as he seems to be a main antagonist in the series.

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