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| I was right about Feyris doing something to save her dad. Yeah, I also think it was probably Moeka's dmail that removed the IBN. It really is Okabe's fault since he let random people send dmails without knowing them for that long. |
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| Feyris is awesome. That is all. |
sadhana said: insan3soldiern said: sadhana said: I can NEVER I mean NEVER accept what happened. Letting your dad die knowingly, I mean how ungreatful is that? Saving a friend is fine, but alowing your father 2 die for it? You do hav the right to sacrifice ur own life 2 save someone, but no one has the right 2 sacrifice somebody else's life 2 save someone. Especially not ur parents, even if u were the one to actually bring them back from dead.. Feyris must be ashamed! I swear...Feyris never had the right to bring her own father back from the dead and this also had the indirect effect of killing Mayuri. But, by your logic, that's all find and dandy because she's just a "friend". It's incredibly obvious how difficult this was for Feyris, yet you make it sound as though she didn't think it over and didn't hesitate. Which she did. I think the message this series is trying to get across is that you shouldn't play god. Scenes such as when Okabe was on the roof earlier in the series and is watching everyone else enjoy themselves while he had been through the exact same circumstance right before...it sort of cheapens the experience you know? Good or bad. If thats the case then Okabe didn't hav the right to save Makse Kurisu in the begining. Also I don't think Okabe would hav minded in the least bit about playing god a hundred times if it meant he could save mayuri. But anyway we all hav our own opinions. And I do respect yours. But this is wat I think. Let's not argue over it. What you mean to save "Makise Kurisu in the beginning," he didn't save her. He did it unknowingly..when he sent a text to his research buddie. This is when he first feels the "Events" of past changing. If you aren't regarding to episode 1 then I apologize, but this is the only knowledge I know of right now where Makise was in danger. |
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| Wow seriously??!?! Mayuri's life has only been extended by one day after allll that??? O_O Poor Feyris!! That was clearly a very difficult decision!! I'm glad she retained her memory, and Akabe's becoming quite the stud isn't he? haha |
| El Psy Congroo まだまだだね!!! |
| Im confused.. how Feyris remembered about the D-Mail?, I thought that the only who could keep with their memories was Okabe. Can someone answer me please. |
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SwordWielder said: I'm pretty sure Moeka's d-mail is the key I think so too. I feel bad for Feyris. No doubt a painful decision to make. Losing her father again was hard for her to bear. The divergence number increased a bit though so again, progress was made. |
| A little emo but it turned out easier than I expected. |
| Yeah everything turned out fairly fast. |
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| I knew it from the second she didn't want to show the txt and after that her dad appeared! Though strange does she really remembered ? |
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| Great episode, I wonder if she really remembered. Next episode will be about Ruka, I guess it'll be really tricky to undo that mail. |
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| Feyris' d-mail was shocking, her choice of having to save only one person was almost too much to ask of her. Glad her time with her father wasn't in vein as he still retains her memories from the previous world line, I wonder why though. |
| Wait how did Feyris remember about something that happened in an alternate time line? Also they're turning Ruka back into a guy next episode?  |
MagEarwhig said: Wait how did Feyris remember about something that happened in an alternate time line? Also they're turning Ruka back into a guy next episode? I don't think she remembered, even before the time line changed she and kyouma (okabe) would always be joking about fighting "the organization" though I'm not sure why he had her phone. Also turning back Ruka into a guy seemed kind of obvious since they have to undo EVERY D-Mail. |
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| Feyris ... So sad story. But I'm so glad she kept her memories. I'd like a Okabe X Feyris romance lol |
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| How can Faris keep the memories? Also, why the hell Okabe don't d-mail himself saying something like "Don't let anyone other than yourself to d-mail"? Much easier than undoing the three d-mails. Kind of a plot-hole, for me. But well, nothing's perfect, especially with shows about time travel. |
taterheadAug 30, 2012 1:21 PM
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taterhead said: How can Faris keep the memories? Also, why the hell Okabe don't d-mail himself saying something like "Don't let anyone other than yourself to d-mail"? Much easier than undoing the three d-mails. Kind of a plot-hole, for me. But well, nothing's perfect, especially with shows about time travel. Mmm not really they explicately said that more d-mails sent = more trouble. Never heard of the butterfly effect? For something seemingly small you get large consequences (chain reaction), and we saw it here with Fayris' D-mail. |
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xizor said: taterhead said: Also, why the hell Okabe don't d-mail himself saying something like "Don't let anyone other than yourself to d-mail"? Much easier than undoing the three d-mails. Kind of a plot-hole, for me. But well, nothing's perfect, especially with shows about time travel. He can't do that because the D-mails were never sent in the current world line. Oh, so derp of me. I forgot about that. Thank you. |
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xizor said: taterhead said: Also, why the hell Okabe don't d-mail himself saying something like "Don't let anyone other than yourself to d-mail"? Much easier than undoing the three d-mails. Kind of a plot-hole, for me. But well, nothing's perfect, especially with shows about time travel. He can't do that because the D-mails were never sent in the current world line. Not really the reason. The D-Mails sent are in fact sent to the past of their current timeline. The only problem is... Each time they send one, unforeseen consequences appear. And make the time line change a bit. Or so I recall. Anyway, if they send more it'd be unmanageable afterwards. |
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| Feyris is really noble, being willing to give up her present life with her father just for an attempt to save Mayuri. Hope all goes well and Mayuri survives eventually. I don't think i can take it if i have to witness another death from her T_T |
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| Aw Feyris :'( Good episode. |
| I really liked Feyris after this episode, Okabe has his own little harem going on now. |
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| Such a sad episode. I feel so bad for Feyris. It's a good thing she can remember, too, other wise it would have been too awful. |
| So next episode the girl-boy-girl will become a boy again, or something?? |
| Ehh, i would've liked this episode a lot more if actually mattered in the end. It really doesn't change anything since the IBN is still lost. Also, how can Okabe send D-mails to OTHER timelines? Wouldn't it just be send back to Faris-chan in their current timeline where it wouldn't do anything? Or did the NEW D-mail actually say something like "Dont give into the kidnappers" thus making an entirely new timeline? I still dont get how her father's death turns the city into a Moe hotspot. What's the trigger? I guess Faris-chan is special too since she retains her memories from the other timelines. I'll have to go back and watch the anime again and see if she acts differently after each D-mail. Like someone else said, why doesn't Okabe just send a D-Mail to himself (right after the Microwave Phone is finished) saying he shouldn't D-Mail at all since it causes more problems? I hope they're not gonna drag on the search for the missing IBN for more than the next episode, because otherwise it would get tedious. |
who_dat_ninjaDec 21, 2012 1:47 PM
| Man I'd hate to be Okabe, having several differing memories. That would be very confusing, I guess at the end he really will be a mad scientist. |
| I like Hentai, you like real life. Instead of complaining about my tastes, be grateful you now don't have to compete against me. |
| OMFG! Mayuri stop deing! T_T |
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| I never liked Feyris, but she earned my respect in this episode. She did what had to be done. I really enjoyed this episode. |
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| Fucking garbage anime. If the girl was going to die why would he stay in the apartment? And how did he escape the raid? Piece of overrated shit. |
| So basically what Okabe is doing is reversing the D-Mails sent right? Well if that's the case wouldn't Kirisu die instead. Perhaps if Okabe manages to find the IBN then maybe he can save Mayuri's and Kirisu's life. As for Feyris she earned my respect because the choice to save a friend over her dad was very difficult. Hopefully Okabe manages to find the IBN in the next 1-2 episodes because seeing Mayuri die is just too much especially in the opening minutes of this episode. Like really we just got through episode 16 where Mayuri wasn't killed, and then it picks back up on her dying. |
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| This episode was definately a good one |
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| Rewatching this I wonder if they explain how it is that Feyris can remember things from another world line? Okabe is quite popular with the ladies. |
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| Powerful episode. What an incredible sacrifice Faris made...would love to know what happened to the IBM. |
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| Aww it's nice that Feyris remembered her time with her dad on the other world line! |
mquinn2 said: This is the first time somethings bothered me about this show. Why does Okabe have to back trace each and every Dmail? and especially learning the original contents. Surely sending one to just before they send the first saying 'send no more Dmails, it will ruin time' or something would be simpler? as then all Dmails would never have been sent and time shifts back to its original line Also, how does Feyris remember any of the previous world line? The logic in allowing her to, beyond making it easier writing, is beyond me The D-mails are sent from different world lines to the one they are recieved in. This means that it would have absolutely zero effect to send a d-mail to the past. |
mquinn2 said: Yet he sends Dmails back to undo the original Dmails. So they must have an effect? Yes sorry I worded that badly. Think about it like this. You start in World line x. You send a d-mail telling ur friend jim some lottery numbers. The world line changes to world line y where Jim became rich. This means the mail was sent from World line x (where he didn't win the lottery) and was recieved in World line y (where he did). In order to cancel out his lottery win, you take your own advice and you try sending a D-mail into the past (world line y) telling yourself not to send any D-mails. The problem is the old you wouldn't ever reach that point on world line x. You sent the Dmail *after* the split on the original world line x. You can only send D-mails to world line y, or world line x before the split. If you sent one to world line y it would clearly be useless. If you sent one way back to before you bought the lottery ticket (ie the "split") it would still be useless because you wouldnt reach the point in the timeline. Anyway this explanation was far more long-winded than I intended, and I really am not good at explaining it apparently. |
| Feyris stupid moe bitch, I don't like her. |
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| This anime is really getting very awesome its very thrilling and mysterious. its sad if they change something bad in the past something bad will happen and they have to undo it |
| Another great episode! I'm glad things are starting to get back to normal ? D: |
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| So, either way someone is going to die. That's sad. There is no solution to come up with without anyone dying. :( |
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lt1412 said: Can someone explain the whole thing with the kidnapping for me? Did it happen or not? Apparently there was a kidnapping that caused Faris' father to sell the IBN5100 But on the other hand there is something about a kidnapping that involved Faris' birthday and her fathers death, what will be undone in this episode by telling Faris' father that the kidnapping was just a joke(?) Anybody got an idea what's going on here? xD I don't quite remember how it was explained in the show, but here is how it happened (from the Visual Novel): Faris's father was always a very busy man and didn't have much time for Faris. For her 8th birthday what Faris wanted was to spend a day with her father, but he had to break that promise, because of an urgent and unexpected work coming up. Faris was very angry about this and her last words to him was her telling him to "just die" (the normal words of an angry kid). Faris wanted to make him worry so on her birthday she ran away from home. On the same day, the plane Faris's father used messed up the landing and during the crash or whatever, he died (only him though). The content of the first D-mail Faris sent back was "Kidnapped Kid Ransom 100MM Use Sinkansen". Of course the kidnapping was just a joke to make him don't board the plane and instead use a bullet train to avoid his death. However, her father didn't have that much money at that time, so he sold the IBN 5100 to some guy (obviously working for SERN) who bought it for a very big amount of money due to the desperate campaign of SERN wanting to buy up all of them. This is why it wasn't donated to the shrine later. I'm not sure where the money has been sent though, since the kidnapping was just made up, but it doesn't really matter. Now that Faris and Okabe realized what happened, they sent back another D-mail ("jk about kidnapping ilu papa cu soon") and so her father boarded the plane and unfortunately died. However, at least now Faris's last words to him weren't about her wanting him to die, but rather words of her loving him and hoping to seeing him soon. |
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